January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

hanimmal

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WASHINGTON (AP) — A committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection has issued subpoenas to six associates of former President Donald Trump who were involved in his efforts to overturn his defeat in the 2020 election, further escalating the panel’s probe into the origins of the violent attack.

The panel’s chairman, Mississippi Rep. Bennie Thompson, said in a statement Monday that the committee was demanding testimony and documents from former Trump campaign officials and others who participated in a so-called “war room” ahead of the siege and otherwise strategized about how to halt the certification of Biden’s victory.

Thompson said the committee had issued subpoenas to Bill Stepien, manager of Trump’s 2020 reelection campaign; Jason Miller, a senior adviser to the campaign; Angela McCallum, national executive assistant to the campaign; John Eastman, a lawyer who advised the former president; Michael Flynn, a former national security adviser to Trump who talked with Trump ahead of the insurrection; and Bernard Kerik, who the committee says paid for hotel rooms that served as command centers ahead of Jan. 6.

“In the days before the January 6th attack, the former President’s closest allies and advisors drove a campaign of misinformation about the election and planned ways to stop the count of Electoral College votes. The Select Committee needs to know every detail about their efforts to overturn the election, including who they were talking to in the White House and in Congress, what connections they had with rallies that escalated into a riot, and who paid for it all,” Thompson said in a statement.

The rioters who violently pushed back police to break into the Capitol and interrupted the electoral count of Biden’s victory repeated Trump’s false claims of widespread fraud, and the committee says the six people subpoenaed helped amplify the misinformation in the days ahead of the attack. Trump’s false claims came as election officials and courts across the country verified Biden’s win, and as his own attorney general said there was no evidence of fraud.

The subpoenas come as the panel is working with other close Trump advisers to gain testimony. It has interviewed more than 150 people across government, social media and law enforcement.
 

hanimmal

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what does it matter? they won't come, because garland is a wuss and let bannon walk free....so now the fucking whole thing is a useless frustrating joke. garland might as well be a magat republican, for all the good he's done so far
We will see. I heard something about someone who was just appointed through congress the other day was going to have a mountain of work on their desk.

I think it is this person, but not 100%.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/elizabeth-prelogar-solicitor-general/2021/10/28/3579bfd4-373d-11ec-91dc-551d44733e2d_story.html
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The Senate on Thursday confirmed Elizabeth B. Prelogar as solicitor general, the federal government’s top advocate at the Supreme Court.

Prelogar, a veteran appellate attorney, is the second woman to hold the position and will lead the office at a time when the high court is weighing hotly contested issues, including abortion and gun rights in just the next week.

Following her confirmation on a vote of 53 to 36, Prelogar will be in position Monday to represent the Biden administration at the Supreme Court in its challenge to the nation’s most restrictive abortion law, which bars the procedure in Texas after about six weeks into pregnancy.

Graphic: Biden’s political appointee tracker

Prelogar was an adviser to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III during his investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election.
She previously served in the solicitor general’s office and has argued nine times before the Supreme Court, including twice last year.

In addition to presenting the government’s views at the high court, the solicitor general is responsible for the department’s appellate strategy and for deciding whether the government will support a particular side in cases where the federal government has an interest.

In political spotlight, Supreme Court embarks on extraordinarily controversial term

Prelogar is a former law clerk to Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan, the first woman to serve as solicitor general.
Before that, Prelogar was a law clerk for Attorney General Merrick Garland during his tenure as a judge on the appeals court in D.C.
From January until her nomination in August, Prelogar had held the solicitor general’s post on an acting basis.

This month, the Senate Judiciary Committee advanced Prelogar’s nomination on a 13-to-9 vote.

“While her credentials are impeccable and her advocacy record impressive, what stands out even more about Ms. Prelogar is her commitment to providing unbiased legal advice, her dedication to safeguarding the role of career attorneys within the [Justice] Department, and her demonstrated ability to advance legal arguments separate and apart from her own beliefs,” Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), the Judiciary Committee’s chairman, said during the hearing.
Seems like a pretty important job to fill when it comes to a situation that you know shit heads like Bannon are going to try to drag out to try to try to time out this congress.

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Again I am not sure if this was the person that they were talking about, it could have been one of these:

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They all seem like things that would be important to go forward with the shit storm that is currently on Garland's shoulders.

Anyways. This is why I would not allow the narrative to be driven that nothing is happening, when we don't have any clue what kind of shit that the Trump trolls and insurrectionist RINO's are doing to try to stop any actual work from being done.
 

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GOP digs in on blocking Biden diplomatic picks
Republicans are putting up an intense series of roadblocks to confirmation for President Biden’s diplomatic nominees, issuing maximalist demands and raising objections to both policies and personalities.

More than 10 months into Biden's administration, the Senate has confirmed only seven of his ambassadorial picks, while more than 50 nominees for the State Department and U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) are awaiting votes, many of them held up by GOP objections.

“Republicans who are holding up these nominees are endangering our national security, making it harder for our country to respond to threats at home and abroad,” Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said on the Senate floor Tuesday night, ahead of objections levied by Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) against the quick confirmation of at least eight nominees.

Hawley, Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) and other GOP senators are exercising their ability to place a “hold” on a nominee or demand a vote on the record, moves that can force Democrats to drag out the confirmation process, sometimes for days, and eat up critical Senate floor time that the majority needs for legislative priorities.

On Wednesday, the Senate was able to confirm by a quick voice vote Biden’s ambassador to Israel, Tom Nides, after Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) lifted his hold. A Republican Senate aide said Scott did so after speaking with Nides earlier in the day, adding the senator makes a point to speak to every high-level nominee before a confirmation vote.

But other key Biden picks face more daunting obstacles.

Hawley, for his part, has issued holds on at least five nominees and said he will only lift them if several of Biden’s top officials — Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, Secretary of State Antony Blinken and national security adviser Jake Sullivan — quit over their handling of the U.S. pullout from Afghanistan.

Hawley’s holds include the president’s nominee for ambassador to NATO, two Assistant Secretary positions, the nominee for coordinator for reconstruction and stabilization and the nominee for director general of the Foreign Service.

They are doing everything they can to show that Biden can not govern, does not matter what it does to the country. And the democrats will not forget when it is the republican's turn.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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the attorney general of the us reports only to the president, the house or senate have no authority over him...
it doesn't seem like they would have a lot of influence over him if he was toooo...ooohhh, i dunno...get the fuck off of his ass and slam bannon's fat fucking ass into a cell so hard he'll be farting brick dust a year after he gets out...
complacency at this point in time seems like an incredibly bad idea...how long till the democrats lose what tiny majority they have? not nearly long enough, so shit NEEDS to get done NOW, while it has a chance of going through. you know as well as i do that the republicans are probably taking back both the house and the senate, and after that, there's no way any meaningful legislation is going to happen...it'll all be magat time wasting shit to stall everything out...but right now it looks like the democrats are doing that for the republicans already
 

hanimmal

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the attorney general of the us reports only to the president, the house or senate have no authority over him...
it doesn't seem like they would have a lot of influence over him if he was toooo...ooohhh, i dunno...get the fuck off of his ass and slam bannon's fat fucking ass into a cell so hard he'll be farting brick dust a year after he gets out...
complacency at this point in time seems like an incredibly bad idea...how long till the democrats lose what tiny majority they have? not nearly long enough, so shit NEEDS to get done NOW, while it has a chance of going through. you know as well as i do that the republicans are probably taking back both the house and the senate, and after that, there's no way any meaningful legislation is going to happen...it'll all be magat time wasting shit to stall everything out...but right now it looks like the democrats are doing that for the republicans already
I guess it comes down to the people in place in the Justice department is what I am saying. It is not like Garland is out there doing all the paperwork and arguing in court and shit. But I am all for putting on the heat to get pressure on them to do it, I am just being realistic about how the Republicans are still trolling Biden and his administration's ability to have a team to do the work we need to get done.

Also there is still 3 more years of this justice department regardless of what happens in the Senate/House in 2022.

GOP digs in on blocking Biden diplomatic picks
Republicans are putting up an intense series of roadblocks to confirmation for President Biden’s diplomatic nominees, issuing maximalist demands and raising objections to both policies and personalities.

More than 10 months into Biden's administration, the Senate has confirmed only seven of his ambassadorial picks, while more than 50 nominees for the State Department and U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) are awaiting votes, many of them held up by GOP objections.

“Republicans who are holding up these nominees are endangering our national security, making it harder for our country to respond to threats at home and abroad,” Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said on the Senate floor Tuesday night, ahead of objections levied by Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) against the quick confirmation of at least eight nominees.

Hawley, Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) and other GOP senators are exercising their ability to place a “hold” on a nominee or demand a vote on the record, moves that can force Democrats to drag out the confirmation process, sometimes for days, and eat up critical Senate floor time that the majority needs for legislative priorities.

On Wednesday, the Senate was able to confirm by a quick voice vote Biden’s ambassador to Israel, Tom Nides, after Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) lifted his hold. A Republican Senate aide said Scott did so after speaking with Nides earlier in the day, adding the senator makes a point to speak to every high-level nominee before a confirmation vote.

But other key Biden picks face more daunting obstacles.

Hawley, for his part, has issued holds on at least five nominees and said he will only lift them if several of Biden’s top officials — Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, Secretary of State Antony Blinken and national security adviser Jake Sullivan — quit over their handling of the U.S. pullout from Afghanistan.

Hawley’s holds include the president’s nominee for ambassador to NATO, two Assistant Secretary positions, the nominee for coordinator for reconstruction and stabilization and the nominee for director general of the Foreign Service.

They are doing everything they can to show that Biden can not govern, does not matter what it does to the country. And the democrats will not forget when it is the republican's turn.
Unfortunately I don't see the Democrats pulling the same trolling shit with the Republicans if they have legitimate nominees. But if some insurrectionist RINO like Trump wins in 2024, it is unlikely that they will not be nominating bullshit candidates like DeVos and DeJoy.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Also there is still 3 more years of this justice department regardless of what happens in the Senate/House in 2022.
do you for one minute think an investigation of the insurrection will be carried out fairly and impartially under a republican house and senate? they'll obstruct every inquiry they can, they'll shield each other as much as they can, they'll lie for each other, they already do...
it seems like the democrats have the best position they're going to have for years, right now, and they're not doing a fucking thing to take advantage of it...
 

hanimmal

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do you for one minute think an investigation of the insurrection will be carried out fairly and impartially under a republican house and senate? they'll obstruct every inquiry they can, they'll shield each other as much as they can, they'll lie for each other, they already do...
it seems like the democrats have the best position they're going to have for years, right now, and they're not doing a fucking thing to take advantage of it...
Im saying that the DoJ's investigation won't have anything to do with who holds the senate and house.

I am all for the Democrats getting this done, and they do have another year to get it done. I just am not going to get all worked up over the next things that Democrats are supposed to start eating their own over once again.

The constant drama is not on the Democrats, or Garland, or Biden. It is the Republicans who have been breaking the laws working with foreign nations and attacking our democracy with their bullshit insurrection and obstructing congress/justice. We should keep the focus on the people who are actually at fault and not fall into the same old bullshit allowing the narrative to not be about the delaying tactics that the Insurrectionist RINO's have been doing by slow rolling Biden's nominees who have just gotten into their jobs in the last couple weeks.

That is the problem here, and not anything that the Democrats can do about.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Biden could start having weekly state of the nation addresses, and detailing the republicans obstructionist behavior.
"here's what we're trying to do, and here's what the Republicans are doing to stop it..."
and make damn sure what you say is happening IS happening...republicans can deny the truth, but when you can drag it's republican finger printed carcass out to show everyone, that makes it a lot harder to deny...
 

HGCC

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the attorney general of the us reports only to the president, the house or senate have no authority over him...
it doesn't seem like they would have a lot of influence over him if he was toooo...ooohhh, i dunno...get the fuck off of his ass and slam bannon's fat fucking ass into a cell so hard he'll be farting brick dust a year after he gets out...
complacency at this point in time seems like an incredibly bad idea...how long till the democrats lose what tiny majority they have? not nearly long enough, so shit NEEDS to get done NOW, while it has a chance of going through. you know as well as i do that the republicans are probably taking back both the house and the senate, and after that, there's no way any meaningful legislation is going to happen...it'll all be magat time wasting shit to stall everything out...but right now it looks like the democrats are doing that for the republicans already
The dems need to kick some ass. They are not going to do that, the centrists want compromise with people that spit in their face. Nothing of consequence has happened and people are getting tired of it. Not trump only gets them so far.


Man, I am grumpy. Blah, going to trim dope.
 

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Biden could start having weekly state of the nation addresses, and detailing the republicans obstructionist behavior.
"here's what we're trying to do, and here's what the Republicans are doing to stop it..."
and make damn sure what you say is happening IS happening...republicans can deny the truth, but when you can drag it's republican finger printed carcass out to show everyone, that makes it a lot harder to deny...
And Republican supporters would listen in glee how their side is holding the line against the socialist hordes. I am grumpy als. Going grocery shopping.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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And Republican supporters would listen in glee how their side is holding the line against the socialist hordes. I am grumpy als. Going grocery shopping.
well, you don't detail everything they do, just the more outrageous obviously obstructionist things, because, you know, you ain't going to have to make a damn thing up
 

hanimmal

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Biden could start having weekly state of the nation addresses, and detailing the republicans obstructionist behavior.
"here's what we're trying to do, and here's what the Republicans are doing to stop it..."
and make damn sure what you say is happening IS happening...republicans can deny the truth, but when you can drag it's republican finger printed carcass out to show everyone, that makes it a lot harder to deny...
And you really think we would have just had the biggest infrastructure bill in American history passed?

i think a lot more people should be grumpy, they sure as fuck have reason to be.
I think we should be determined and not just angry picking at the only people who are actually trying to do the work we need to get done as a nation.

Biden's job since day 1 has been a constant clearing of the mess that was left behind.

I think of it like these drain videos, you don't really see what is going to pop up until the shit ontop of it is cleared enough that it becomes a problem.


All those executive orders right off the bat reversing the worst of the Trump shit.

Figuring out and executing a vaccine rollout that was left untouched.

March passing the Covid relief bill to get our nation away from the brink of total economic collapse.

July he was dealing with Putin and bringing us back from the brink of all out war for their attacks on our nation.

September had the Afghanastan withdraw that was originally agreed by Trump to be back in May.

Then finally working on the infrastructure bill along with the other one that is still ongoing, on and on.

It has been a busy as hell 9 months cleaning up after the Trump administration and the Republican economic collapse due to their shit pandemic response and crap policies that led to us being weak heading into it.

https://www.politico.com/joe-biden-first-100-days-presidency
 
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And you really think we would have just had the biggest infrastructure bill in American history passed?


I think we should be determined and not just angry picking at the only people who are actually trying to do the work we need to get done as a nation.

Biden's job since day 1 has been a constant clearing of the mess that was left behind.

I think of it like these drain videos, you don't really see what is going to pop up until the shit ontop of it is cleared enough that it becomes a problem.


All those executive orders right off the bat reversing the worst of the Trump shit.

Figuring out and executing a vaccine rollout that was left untouched.

March passing the Covid relief bill to get our nation away from the brink of total economic collapse.

July he was dealing with Putin and bringing us back from the brink of all out war for their attacks on our nation.

September had the Afghanastan withdraw that was originally agreed by Trump to be back in May.

Then finally working on the infrastructure bill along with the other one that is still ongoing, on and on.

It has been a busy as hell 9 months cleaning up after the Trump administration and the Republican economic collapse due to their shit pandemic response and crap policies that led to us being weak heading into it.

https://www.politico.com/joe-biden-first-100-days-presidency
You are only as good as your last hit record. The public is fickle.
 

rkymtnman

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It has been a busy as hell 9 months cleaning up after the Trump
i'm with you. i think biden wants to get things back to normal like gas prices, shelves fully stocked etc (that's the things that americans notice and care about) and then he still has plenty of time to go after trump and others and not look like he's just getting revenge on them.
 
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