Is Time An Illusion?

Finshaggy

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Time is the imaginary thing that comes to mind when you try to put before and after together. But before and after are not true things. There is only now, what is within the space of now, and what you think in now. Show me how to do anything in any time but now, and I'll believe you.
 

Finshaggy

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[video=youtube;PZijqF3ey3k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZijqF3ey3k[/video]

Xavier always knows exactly how not to say everything right.
 

jesco51

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No one really knows what happens when we think, therefore we can never really ever know anything.
 

ginjawarrior

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cells reproduce and deteriiorate over..... time.
cells renew themselves fast when your young meaning normal wear and tear is repaired before it can build up

as you get older the cells take longer to renew themselves and cant repair quick enough so wear and tear slowly takes effect

but thats just genetics time would still happen wether or not we were here aging
 

Finshaggy

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cells renew themselves fast when your young meaning normal wear and tear is repaired before it can build up

as you get older the cells take longer to renew themselves and cant repair quick enough so wear and tear slowly takes effect

but thats just genetics time would still happen wether or not we were here aging
There is a chemical that is on your cells until you hit pubertyish age. Your cells split with no cost until this chemy disappears. Some people think vampire's could just be people that still have this. And they are trying to figure out how to reattach it.
 

ginjawarrior

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There is a chemical that is on your cells until you hit pubertyish age. Your cells split with no cost until this chemy disappears. Some people think vampire's could just be people that still have this. And they are trying to figure out how to reattach it.

could you please define "no cost" cause you dont get shit for free

sources would be good too ;)
 

Finshaggy

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could you please define "no cost" cause you dont get shit for free

sources would be good too ;)
No cost meaning when it splits it is the exact same cell as it was before it split. Like a clone more than a reproduction.

I'll look it up. But I can't remember the name of the chemy, but I'll see if I can find it.
 

Finshaggy

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I haven't found it yet, but I'm really close.
Senescence is defined as: The aging process after maturity. (Cells degenerating with each split)
Negligible senescence is defined as: Animals that show no signs of age, and who's reproductive organs do not lose their usefulness over time.

Those animals are timeless. If that was us, would time still seem real? Or would it just be how we measured our days, hours minutes, seconds. And I'm still looking for the word for the chemical that drops.

 

Finshaggy

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This isn't exactly it, but it is something I did not know about DNA when our cells split, that goes along the same lines as what I was saying.

Called telomeres, these molecular chains have often been compared to the blank leaders on film and recording tape. Indeed, telomeres seem to perform a similar function. During the replication process the spiral DNA molecule must split in half and reassemble a copy of itself. Protecting the vital DNA molecule from being copied out of synch, telomeres provide a kind of buffer zone where mis-alignments (which are inevitable) will not result in any of the iportant DNA code being lost. Perhaps the best analogy I have heard is to compare the telomeres to the white margin surrounding an important type written document. In this analogy, the printed text is the vital DNA code while the white space is the "blank" telomeres. Imagine that this paper is repeatedly slapped on a copy machine, a copy is made, and then that copy is used to make another copy. Each time the paper is subject to errors of alignment and these errors accumulate. After enough copying, it is probable that the white space will diminish and some of the actual text will not be copied. That's what happens inside our cells and it is the reason we get old and die.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
There have been noises about telomerase inhibitors being used as age-slowers or even -reversers. One of those brilliant ideas that didn't lead to any practical result. Who knows, though ... perhaps in (giggling, ducking) time. cn
 

Finshaggy

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cells renew themselves fast when your young meaning normal wear and tear is repaired before it can build up

as you get older the cells take longer to renew themselves and cant repair quick enough so wear and tear slowly takes effect

but thats just genetics time would still happen wether or not we were here aging
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No read. I posted the word for animals it DOESN'T happen to. And when your a child it isn't "repairing ". It is literally cloning itself perfectly.
 

Finshaggy

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There have been noises about telomerase inhibitors being used as age-slowers or even -reversers. One of those brilliant ideas that didn't lead to any practical result. Who knows, though ... perhaps in (giggling, ducking) time. cn
I like the ducking part. Lol.
 

Hepheastus420

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cells renew themselves fast when your young meaning normal wear and tear is repaired before it can build up

as you get older the cells take longer to renew themselves and cant repair quick enough so wear and tear slowly takes effect

but thats just genetics time would still happen wether or not we were here aging
(not fighting, :) ) you say younger and older in your post. Cells would not grow if it wasn't for what time measures.
 

Finshaggy

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(not fighting, :) ) you say younger and older in your post. Cells would not grow if it wasn't for what time measures.
Specifically "Human cells". From what I read, there are animals who's sells do not do anything to measure age by. Except reproduce. But you would have to watch the cell count to know that was happening.
 

Finshaggy

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time, numbers, and all other measurments are man made ...but i think they were made by observing nature ?
Yeah. By observing a constant "space" doing what it does, and seeing it in the spectrum of "light" with our eyes and "sound" with our ears, we have developed a system to describe the phnomenon of future, past, and present. That doesn't make them real though. It just makes them concepts that we may use in our language, to describe something.
The ancient Greeks used "Zues" to represent the reason for lighting. That didn't make it true though. Time is just a "god"(confusing aspect of life or nature) that still has power over us(we can't get passed it, or really understand it).
 
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