Is this where the United States is going?

Dolce Vita

Dolce Vita

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jrh72582 said:
Many people would call him the spawn of Satan because he authorized and orchestrated the killing of 6 million jews, not because of his socialist leanings!!!

MY GOD! Are you now claiming that socialism leads to mass killings of people? Holy shit man! So in Iceland they murder at will? And Denmark? And Sweden? And France? And England? And Canada? Are you effin' serious? Socialism leads to the killing of Jews?

You need to work on the causality buddy!
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socialism is the transition stage between a republic and a communist dictatorship! "give me your liberty and i will give you freedom" Hitler said that, and who else said that, bush? and obama chose to keep that policy.

whay are they expimenting with putting contraceptives in corn then? they want to reduce our population by 80% and this is one thing that i agree with them on but dont force people to do it
 
medicineman

medicineman

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We are alrerady a quasi socialist state. We have medicare, social security, Government pensions, etc. Capitalism can work with socialism and both need each other to maintain a social balance. Unfettered capitalism is what caused the current economic crisis. Obama is swinging the pendulum back to center and maybe, Hopefully, a little more to the left. Single payer health care would right the ship of state by releasing corporations from the burden of providing health care to employees. All this infusion of capital into the private sector by government, must have rules. Upon payback, those rules will lessen or be withdrawn altogether. This paranoia of a government takeover of private industry is nothing but nonsense. Afterall, this government is totally controlled by private industry to begin with. I'd like someone to explain to me why we the people can't get single payer medical when 70+% want it. Could it be that an army of lobbyists are always up congresses ass with money and threats, yes threats of non-support and support of their opponent in the next race. This allegation was just disclosed on Bill Moyers last night by an ex medical insurance exec. He explained why Single payer will never be instituted as long as lobbyists are allowed to exist. If we want government by the people, for the people, and of the people, we must get rid of professional lobbying.
 
PVS

PVS

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medicineman said:
We are alrerady a quasi socialist state. We have medicare, social security, Government pensions, etc. Capitalism can work with socialism and both need each other to maintain a social balance. Unfettered capitalism is what caused the current economic crisis. Obama is swinging the pendulum back to center and maybe, Hopefully, a little more to the left. Single payer health care would right the ship of state by releasing corporations from the burden of providing health care to employees. All this infusion of capital into the private sector by government, must have rules. Upon payback, those rules will lessen or be withdrawn altogether. This paranoia of a government takeover of private industry is nothing but nonsense. Afterall, this government is totally controlled by private industry to begin with. I'd like someone to explain to me why we the people can't get single payer medical when 70+% want it. Could it be that an army of lobbyists are always up congresses ass with money and threats, yes threats of non-support and support of their opponent in the next race. This allegation was just disclosed on Bill Moyers last night by an ex medical insurance exec. He explained why Single payer will never be instituted as long as lobbyists are allowed to exist. If we want government by the people, for the people, and of the people, we must get rid of professional lobbying.
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stop making sense damnit!
 
Dolce Vita

Dolce Vita

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medicineman said:
If we want government by the people, for the people, and of the people, we must get rid of professional lobbying.
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Thank you! we vote for people to represent us, the people and what we want, now what special intrest groupes that pay for their campaigna want.

social security and medicare are socialist acts, but they are 2 of the biggest failures in americas history, some call them government run ponze schemes, im young and i know im not going to get social security when i retire, and yet they take my money for it. gay. :roll:
 
medicineman

medicineman

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Dolce Vita said:
Thank you! we vote for people to represent us, the people and what we want, now what special intrest groupes that pay for their campaigna want.

social security and medicare are socialist acts, but they are 2 of the biggest failures in americas history, some call them government run ponze schemes, im young and i know im not going to get social security when i retire, and yet they take my money for it. gay. :roll:
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It's funny how no-one ever recognizes the fact that had SS (The funds that is) been left alone, SS would be solvent way into the future,. In fact the interest earned on that fund would probably be enough to pay off the national debt. But alas, the central government in their infinite wisdom, decided to raid the fund to bring down the debt and look like they were doing a good job containing the budget. If the cap on deductions were removed, and there were enough jobs to go around, (Had not the corporations moved all those jobs overseas, and eliminated all good paying jobs to illegals so they wouldn't have to pay as much to SS) Even now there could be a workable future for SS. I don't have the solutions, but some form of social retirement must remain as a large percentage of people don't or can't save for retirement. If one wishes to gamble with the stock market, have at it, but when corrections happen AKA rape of the investors, don't be crying and looking to government for retirement.
 
Dolce Vita

Dolce Vita

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medicineman said:
It's funny how no-one ever recognizes the fact that had SS (The funds that is) been left alone, SS would be solvent way into the future,. In fact the interest earned on that fund would probably be enough to pay off the national debt. But alas, the central government in their infinite wisdom, decided to raid the fund to bring down the debt and look like they were doing a good job containing the budget. If the cap on deductions were removed, and there were enough jobs to go around, (Had not the corporations moved all those jobs overseas, and eliminated all good paying jobs to illegals so they wouldn't have to pay as much to SS) Even now there could be a workable future for SS. I don't have the solutions, but some form of social retirement must remain as a large percentage of people don't or can't save for retirement. If one wishes to gamble with the stock market, have at it, but when corrections happen AKA rape of the investors, don't be crying and looking to government for retirement.
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they started out as good missions but they need to do what they are made for, not be a emergency bank account for an irresponsible government.
 
PVS

PVS

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Dolce Vita said:
when your his age, will you?
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as far as i know, my grandma is not a man. if they are able to repair the system, as medicineman suggested. now if bush had succeeded in throwing SS to the will of the market....fuck no.
 
Dolce Vita

Dolce Vita

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PVS said:
as far as i know, my grandma is not a man. if they are able to repair the system, as medicineman suggested. now if bush had succeeded in throwing SS to the will of the market....fuck no.
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lol sorry i thought u said grandpa... if yall think socialism is a good thing then we are jus going to have to agree to disagree
 
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NoDrama

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I didn't go to work today, told them I was becoming a socialist and that they could just send my paychecks to my address.
 
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NoDrama

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Awesome, since the minimum wage is going up by 70 cents an hour im going to have to get that increase as well. Oh BTW i need a new big screen TV, my 55 incher just isn't cutting it anymore, I need 70 inches or bigger. Ill just put that on the credit card i won't be making payment on. Don't worry the credit cards will just increase your APR to cover it.
 
jfgordon1

jfgordon1

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http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/the_end_of_america/

End of America

"In a stunning indictment of sweeping policy changes during the Bush years, best-selling author Naomi Wolf (The Beauty Myth) makes a chilling case that American democracy is under threat. Investigating parallels between our current situation and the rise of dictators and fascism in once-free societies, Wolf uncovers a number of deeply unsettling similarities-from the use of paramilitary groups and secret prisons to the targeted suspension of the rule of law. With this galvanizing call to arms based on her recent book, she urges regular citizens to take back our legacy of freedom and justice."

A great video.. if you havn't seen it. WATCH IT :)

P.S. Fuck socialism
 
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