Is the World Flat? The Flatlander's theory..

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WeedFreak78 said:
It can't be flat..where would these people live then..duh!! http://www.thenewearth.org/InnerEarth.html


The Inner Earth & Realm of Aghartha


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Flat earth...PFFTTT..everyone knows it's hollow..

I found a copy of Admiral Byrd's personal accounts of his expedition, in his own words, printed in 1949, in my attic. Figures i pulled it out to read and can't figure out where i put it. I wanted to see if there was any mention of this stuff.
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its next to that zippo lighter I lost
 
im finding it fukin hilarious tbh and I also believe his arguments should be challenged rather than his person attacked because he holds contrary views, I wanna see a picture of the edge
 
zeddd said:
... I also believe his arguments should be challenged rather than his person attacked because he holds contrary views...
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I agree not to attack the person, any more than you'd attack them for stuttering. I think it's important to see this as a real mental disorder. I've been thinking about this in more depth. Think about some of these shocking conspiracy theories. You see many people across socio-economic lines, various education levels, single people, family people... it's all over. It's a human mental condition of some sort. If you have one of these annoying conspiracy fixations, it's going to start to define you to others, and that's likely to lead to typical loneliness and partial isolation. This is an uncomfortable thing to bear. And like starts grouping with like, even if only on some conspiracy forum online. Maybe an occasional regional meeting or book signing. People who share the particular delusion will clearly congregate, share and grow the delusion.

At this point, as I see this for what it really is, it's clear that arguing the facts isn't creating progress. It might be fun to wrestle and slap the guy around, but in the end this type of mentality can't be shamed into acceptance. There is an amazing amount of energy being deployed to protect the delusion, and systematically abandoning science to offer counter arguments. Anything to protect the delusion.

I find this fascinating all of a sudden.
 
Sure Shot said:
That's right, these are just paranoid delusions of a madman.
Go back to sleep.
In a world full of crazy people, to be normal is insane.

"A time will come when the whole world will go mad. And to anyone who is not mad they will say: 'You are mad, for you are not like us.'" - St. Anthony the Great
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I'm not the most sane person in the world but I have yet to see any real evidence of a flat world only of a round one and honestly what good can come from telling us the world is round?? That has got to be the dumbest conspiracy theory ever NASA don't get all that much money not like the military. If it is all a hoax then what is the fucking point?? I still won't believe in Christianity
 
Rrog said:
I agree not to attack the person, any more than you'd attack them for stuttering. I think it's important to see this as a real mental disorder. I've been thinking about this in more depth. Think about some of these shocking conspiracy theories. You see many people across socio-economic lines, various education levels, single people, family people... it's all over. It's a human mental condition of some sort. If you have one of these annoying conspiracy fixations, it's going to start to define you to others, and that's likely to lead to typical loneliness and partial isolation. This is an uncomfortable thing to bear. And like starts grouping with like, even if only on some conspiracy forum online. Maybe an occasional regional meeting or book signing. People who share the particular delusion will clearly congregate, share and grow the delusion.

At this point, as I see this for what it really is, it's clear that arguing the facts isn't creating progress. It might be fun to wrestle and slap the guy around, but in the end this type of mentality can't be shamed into acceptance. There is an amazing amount of energy being deployed to protect the delusion, and systematically abandoning science to offer counter arguments. Anything to protect the delusion.

I find this fascinating all of a sudden.
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I by linking all so called conspiracy theories with flat earth belief, I think you are falling into the trap set by the flatearther, make a mockery of of all non mainstream beliefs and link them to a Straw Man argument of which flat earth is king
 
Rrog said:
I agree not to attack the person, any more than you'd attack them for stuttering. I think it's important to see this as a real mental disorder. I've been thinking about this in more depth. Think about some of these shocking conspiracy theories. You see many people across socio-economic lines, various education levels, single people, family people... it's all over. It's a human mental condition of some sort. If you have one of these annoying conspiracy fixations, it's going to start to define you to others, and that's likely to lead to typical loneliness and partial isolation. This is an uncomfortable thing to bear. And like starts grouping with like, even if only on some conspiracy forum online. Maybe an occasional regional meeting or book signing. People who share the particular delusion will clearly congregate, share and grow the delusion.

At this point, as I see this for what it really is, it's clear that arguing the facts isn't creating progress. It might be fun to wrestle and slap the guy around, but in the end this type of mentality can't be shamed into acceptance. There is an amazing amount of energy being deployed to protect the delusion, and systematically abandoning science to offer counter arguments. Anything to protect the delusion.

I find this fascinating all of a sudden.
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This view is very interesting, and you are compassionate. Ime, these people share a strange mix of traits; under-educated, ignorant, confident and arrogant. They seek an easy path to form a pseudo self-esteem; our small secret club of enlightened members who put in very little effort know more than all the mainstream educated sheep with their thousands of hours of rigorous study. Even though it's the latter camp's math and theories that have given the world all of it's accomplishments and values that the former camp uses daily. WTF? I view this phenomena as laziness more than mental illness (although now you've got me thinking that laziness IS a form of mental illness). You are absolutely right that using our tools of logic, reason and evidence is usually useless. As Sam Harris states,“If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn’t value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?” I don't participate in an oppositional stance against these folks as much as I used to, especially when learned others are already fighting the good fight. Although their (pseudo) self esteem seems tied to their erroneous beliefs, I'd argue that it's really their self esteem they are protecting rather than their actual beliefs, which are obviously useless. It's not us they are attempting to fool, but themselves. I don't mind these people having these ideas, it's the arrogant, blustery certainty with little to no mettle behind it that bothers me. If they kept it to themselves I'd have no problem, but when they attempt to spread that shit in public forums, it bothers me. Mainly because it is possible to spread that diseased thinking to laymen who don't know any better.

Public ridicule seems to be a great tool for preventing the spread of really bad ideas, to the benefit of everyone. For example, there are people who believe Elvis is still alive, but one rarely hears this belief stated publicly. Why? Because one pays an immediate price for such a declaration. Imagine this belief stated at a job interview, or a first date, or at a party. The person stating this tripe would be openly laughed at, with no real concern of hurting the person's feelings or disrupting their mental state. While this would probably have little chance of effecting the erroneous belief, it keeps it deep in the shadows, away from infecting others. It is fascinating that there is a strong correlation between incompetence and arrogant certainty. It is widely known as the Dunning-Kruger effect. Check it out -


 
ODanksta said:
It's amazing I just started this to troll around and y'all have kept alive this long..
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are you truly amazed though?
NOTHING in the toke n talk section suprises me anymore...
Stoners are like ping pong balls.. our topics get knocked back and forth, with no direction perceivable.
In fact, when you really think about it, this topic has remained fairly cohesive, considering it's participants (myself included)
I mean your x-files thread went from x-files, to boobs, to nfl playoffs, back to boobs (my contribution), and then to bobs burgers.
So...
I think this thread is pretty cohesive indeed
 
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Rrog said:
I missed the boobs???? How'd that happen?
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there wasn't pics... I just was referring to the reference...
Californication... and it's spec-friggin-tacular booballicios-ness
man... like the top two pairs of the best boobs on the planet were in that show...
Whoever was responsible for the casting.... man... talk about a tough job...
THIS girl...
Fuuuck...
and I like em smaller but hotdamn...
 
Tyler's video is very interesting. The concept of "competence" - the lack of connection. Makes a lot of sense and I think very germane to the convo at large.

Thanks a lot for posting that

Again, though - this would support the notion that there's a underlying problem that not all people have / face. The video mentions that exposure to some schooling in that area helps, and that would lead one to conclude that there's a direct link between this dysfunction and education.

Not sure that's always the key. I think of the college prof who was just fired for harassing Sandy Hook parents. He's educated and obviously delusional. So while education can cast light into the darkness, there seems to be something else happening.

Really reminds me of OCD. There's a compulsion that is unignorable to those afflicted.

Interesting
 
Rrog said:
Tyler's video is very interesting. The concept of "competence" - the lack of connection. Makes a lot of sense and I think very germane to the convo at large.

Thanks a lot for posting that

Again, though - this would support the notion that there's a underlying problem that not all people have / face. The video mentions that exposure to some schooling in that area helps, and that would lead one to conclude that there's a direct link between this dysfunction and education.

Not sure that's always the key. I think of the college prof who was just fired for harassing Sandy Hook parents. He's educated and obviously delusional. So while education can cast light into the darkness, there seems to be something else happening.

Really reminds me of OCD. There's a compulsion that is unignorable to those afflicted.

Interesting
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yo man.. wheres the love for the boobage info?!
hahaha
I mean i'm an atheist, but GOD blessed that girl
 
Lol!!!

GMM- when you say atheist, in your view is there anything aside from the physical / biological in the way of some other energy - call it what you will.

I'm just curious because many say atheist but also have a thought about karma or ESP etc
 
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zeddd said:
im finding it fukin hilarious tbh and I also believe his arguments should be challenged rather than his person attacked because he holds contrary views, I wanna see a picture of the edge
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dude HOW friggin scary would THAT shit be?
To peer down off the edge of the planet?!
I'd imagine it to be like the Niagara falls only endless
 
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