Is THC produced DURING flushing ?????

In my experience, the 72 hour dark period eliminates the need to flush. I feed them with every single watering up until i decide its time for them to go in to the dark. Not a single person I have asked that has sampled my results ever mentioned a single thing about tasting anything strange or saying it was harsh in any way. In fact, every single one of them commented on how smooth and flavorful it was and for some it was the first time they had experienced that from marijuana. I live in CO. There are three dispensaries within 2 miles from my home and I know the owners of one. Their product is as potent as it gets but it is the most horrible thing i've ever tasted, which is saying something since it smells like blueberries. They do not allow for this dark period.

There is really a simple solution to the matter. Anyone who has grown veggies/fruits/herbs knows that you harvest after a dark period (usually just before sunrise because they are generally grown outdoors) for the best flavor. There is lots of hard empirical evidence of this. If you are trying to convince people of the benefits of flushing (not an emergency flush) before a harvest then simply provide proof. I've told you my personal experiences and im obviously going to go with that first but who can rightfully deny scientific evidence? I want to maximize my yields as well as their potency so if i see something convincing you can consider my a believer.

I've taken a lot of what i know from you guys but i've also made some mistakes doing so. Its nothing personal, its just that facts don't lie. That's the cool thing about them, they can always be relied on. Wanna prove your point? Provide facts.

aknight3 said:

hemp, personally, i do not do it, again i have done a side by side and have seen no magical trichomes appear after the darkness. and one time i got mold, so it actually had a negative effect from it, imho i wouldnt do it, its a process for trichomes to form thc, cbn and cbd and it takes more than just 3 days to increase thc (to a noticable significant point) again this is just my opinion im sure someone will tell you im wrong but heh thats the glory of the net so really its all opinion, personally i wouldnt waste my 3 days, good luck

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You are right, that is your opinion. As I stated above though, facts do not require your belief to be true. Not all things are opinion. Some things really are one way or another. While you may have tried it once or twice that does not mean that it doesn't work. It does not work with all strains. You may have had a strain that did not benefit from the 72 hour dark period. Even in the strains that do show improvement, it is varied significantly. It is not magic. It is botany.

When i started using botany instead of random opinions, my plants got bigger, fatter and more potent.

The proof will be in the pudding or in this case the Bud. And everyone is a critic and has a opinion good thing it America where you can have one.

Brick Top said:

If years of experience wins the day until someone with more than 37 years of experience chimes in with an opposing voice .. then crown me king for a day and I decree that flushing makes a difference.
　
I will add this … like so many things connected to this practice, mileage may vary.

I am sure than in some strains grown under certain conditions using certain systems there may only at best be a very minimal positive effect from flushing but in most cases it is more than worth doing if flavor and smoothness are high on your list of priorities.

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i am not saying i have been growing longer than anyone here or that i am even better, i am a novice grower, i do not grow for profession and it is not my job, it is my hobby, that is all, i just try to help and get shit like this

Flush, because growers who are far more experienced than you know the shit won't even stay lit if it's full of nutes

thats why i get defensive, i dont go around snuffing my nose up saying ''hey better growers than you do it this way so your wrong'', thats not right, imo its insulting,i would never be so rude as to do that to somebody, again brick you are much older than me and have much more experience than i, i just dont appreciate when im looked down upon (not saying you did) because someone has done something their way and will simply not tolerate or even agree to disagree but instead just say, 'yes your wrong and inexperienced, sorry'

Brick Top said:

If years of experience wins the day until someone with more than 37 years of experience chimes in with an opposing voice .. then crown me king for a day and I decree that flushing makes a difference.
　
I will add this … like so many things connected to this practice, mileage may vary.

I am sure than in some strains grown under certain conditions using certain systems there may only at best be a very minimal positive effect from flushing but in most cases it is more than worth doing if flavor and smoothness are high on your list of priorities.

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accidental double post, my bad, but i will add, twisted funk, 72 hr darkness is not plant botany, that is a technique developed my man to potentially increase something in a plant, thats all, not botany so i dont know where you get that from, whens the last time (besides alaska) where the sun when down and didnt show up for 3 days? that would be a weird world, but its not ours.

Twistedfunk said:

In my experience, the 72 hour dark period eliminates the need to flush. I feed them with every single watering up until i decide its time for them to go in to the dark. Not a single person I have asked that has sampled my results ever mentioned a single thing about tasting anything strange or saying it was harsh in any way. In fact, every single one of them commented on how smooth and flavorful it was and for some it was the first time they had experienced that from marijuana. I live in CO. There are three dispensaries within 2 miles from my home and I know the owners of one. Their product is as potent as it gets but it is the most horrible thing i've ever tasted, which is saying something since it smells like blueberries. They do not allow for this dark period.

There is really a simple solution to the matter. Anyone who has grown veggies/fruits/herbs knows that you harvest after a dark period (usually just before sunrise because they are generally grown outdoors) for the best flavor. There is lots of hard empirical evidence of this. If you are trying to convince people of the benefits of flushing (not an emergency flush) before a harvest then simply provide proof. I've told you my personal experiences and im obviously going to go with that first but who can rightfully deny scientific evidence? I want to maximize my yields as well as their potency so if i see something convincing you can consider my a believer.

I've taken a lot of what i know from you guys but i've also made some mistakes doing so. Its nothing personal, its just that facts don't lie. That's the cool thing about them, they can always be relied on. Wanna prove your point? Provide facts.

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I only learned about the 72-hour of darkness thing in the not to distant past so I have only tried it a handful of times but I never thought about trying it without flushing first to see if there might be some or any difference but after thinking about it a while I think it could at least to a large degree perform the same general purpose but just in a different way.
　
Very basically put you flush and your plants then have a medium with little nutritional value and the plants draw stored nutrients from leaves and use them for bud production and of course what goes with it.

Basically the plant cannibalizes some portion of itself to prolong the survival of another portion and in the end nutrients stored in the plant are used up and there is nothing left that might cause an aftertaste left/created by them.
　
During the 72-hour period of darkness plants operate on stored energy and stored nutrients to continue growth and of course bud/THC production so they are not really reliant on nutrients in the soil so if in the 72-hours of darkness enough stored nutrients are used the results would have to be at least very similar to flushing.
　
Depending on when someone flushes and to what degree they flush and various differing conditions and then genetics factored in, in some cases I could see there being a less than close similarity in the end but I would think that in many cases it might be pretty darn close to the same final results.

The same general action/function would be performed but begun by a different conditional situation, so the question might be on what might seem to be a truncated timeframe, 72-hours, would an equal or near equal amount of stored nutrients be used up by plants as to what occurs after flushing?
　
Being that I am a belt and suspenders sort of guy when it comes to doing things I will likely stick with what I have been doing but I may have to maybe pick one plant in the future and skip the flush and see if I can tell much if any difference in the final results.

I'm about 2 -3 weeks from harvesting some lovelies. I was wondering the same thing. I'm using the 6 FF nutes and following the schedule to a T. It does not say anything about flushing. Although I did flush last crop and it just makes sense to me. To each his own. I'm gonna flush 2 weeks.

Brick Top said:

I only learned about the 72-hour of darkness thing in the not to distant past so I have only tried it a handful of times but I never thought about trying it without flushing first to see if there might be some or any difference but after thinking about it a while I think it could at least to a large degree perform the same general purpose but just in a different way.
　
Very basically put you flush and your plants then have a medium with little nutritional value and the plants draw stored nutrients from leaves and use them for bud production and of course what goes with it.

Basically the plant cannibalizes some portion of itself to prolong the survival of another portion and in the end nutrients stored in the plant are used up and there is nothing left that might cause an aftertaste left/created by them.
　
During the 72-hour period of darkness plants operate on stored energy and stored nutrients to continue growth and of course bud/THC production so they are not really reliant on nutrients in the soil so if in the 72-hours of darkness enough stored nutrients are used the results would have to be at least very similar to flushing.
　
Depending on when someone flushes and to what degree they flush and various differing conditions and then genetics factored in, in some cases I could see there being a less than close similarity in the end but I would think that in many cases it might be pretty darn close to the same final results.

The same general action/function would be performed but begun by a different conditional situation, so the question might be on what might seem to be a truncated timeframe, 72-hours, would an equal or near equal amount of stored nutrients be used up by plants as to what occurs after flushing?
　
Being that I am a belt and suspenders sort of guy when it comes to doing things I will likely stick with what I have been doing but I may have to maybe pick one plant in the future and skip the flush and see if I can tell much if any difference in the final results.

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So far Brick that is the most logical reasoning and explanation behind flushing for a harvest that i have been presented with yet. I actually had a guy on this forum the other day try to convince me that the plant excretes waste from its roots and he flushes to apparently wipe his plant's ass. So I'm liking your answer but it does not constitute as proof. I understand what you are doing though. I just wish I could find empirical evidence because it drives me crazy not knowing =p

aknight3 said:

accidental double post, my bad, but i will add, twisted funk, 72 hr darkness is not plant botany, that is a technique developed my man to potentially increase something in a plant, thats all, not botany so i dont know where you get that from, whens the last time (besides alaska) where the sun when down and didnt show up for 3 days? that would be a weird world, but its not ours.

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"Botany, plant science(s), phytology, or plant biology is a branch of biology and is the scientific study of plant life and development. Botany covers a wide range of scientific disciplines that study plants, algae, and fungi including: structure, growth, reproduction, metabolism, development, diseases, chemical properties, and evolutionary relationships between the different groups." from wiki cus it was easy

Since the 72 hour dark period has been proven to work in some strains then it is not a theory. It is a direct response to to an immediate change in the plant's environment which effects the growth and development of the plant. I won't argue with you because that isn't why I come here. I'm trying to get definitive information regarding the absolute best possible way to grow my plants. If I can provide some factual and useful info to a few here or there then that's awesome too. You don't have to believe me. I simply provided information in a clear and concise manner. You interpret it in your own way and attempt to justify whatever it is you do however you like.

Twistedfunk said:

I'm trying to get definitive information regarding the absolute best possible way to grow my plants.

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I may have come into this so late as to have missed reading what your setup/system/space is but the very best way to grow someone’s plants can be dictated by those things so you need to look at what you have to work with and then pick a way to maximize your final results.
　
What works the best for one person might work pretty well for someone else but it might also not be near the best for their situation.

ok so basically if you decide not to flush and feed till harvest to maximize yeild and your bud ends up tasting like shit does anyone think that water cureing could be a remedy?

or possibly growing in this manner and planing on water cure as an alternative growing method?

fdd2blk said:

the relevance is, ....

there are 100 threads on the boards about how hermies are the greatest thing ever for feminized seeds. what a load of crap. now this "don't need to flush" shit pops up as well. it's all BS.



what replaces the nutes is the dead foliage. you know compost. how it get there in the first place.

why does everything turn yellow in the fall? you don't want opinions, you want to argue. this is why i took my ball.

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Lol it rains in the fall so all the marijuana can get flushed so we can smoke it and that's why all plants are yellow. Wild theories with no facts.

Brick Top said:

I may have come into this so late as to have missed reading what your setup/system/space is but the very best way to grow someone’s plants can be dictated by those things so you need to look at what you have to work with and then pick a way to maximize your final results.
　
What works the best for one person might work pretty well for someone else but it might also not be near the best for their situation.

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I grow various strains both indoors and outdoors. I'm just interested in seeing the benefits or lack thereof of flushing in various strains of cannabis before a harvest in a controlled scientific environment for the sake of knowledge. Knowledge that I can then use to my benefit.

IMO the strain does not make a difference in wether or not to flush.
I think all plant's should be flushed. I grow mine for my own smoke and want the best taste I can.
I flush heavily for 2 weak's.

Tetrahydrocannibinolic acid is converted to tetrahydrocannibinol (THC) during drying

That is different then taste.
But I beleive the conversion happens when heated.IMO

its converted during drying and released during heat

bossman88188 said:

That is different then taste.
But I beleive the conversion happens when heated.IMO

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Proper drying and curing will also ensure maximum potency of the marijuana you have grown. Marijuana is not potent just after harvest. Some of the THC is in a non-psychoactive acidic form. Drying marijuana the right way will convert the non-psychoactive acidic compounds into psychoactive THC.

bossman88188 said:

IMO the strain does not make a difference in wether or not to flush.
I think all plant's should be flushed. I grow mine for my own smoke and want the best taste I can.
I flush heavily for 2 weak's.

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"IMO" and "I think" is not definitive proof.