i've spent 3 years here helping people and it's all been tossed out the window for magic tricks. i'm done.
Is THC produced DURING flushing ?????
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SlikWiLL13
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your being a bit dramatic dont you think? magic tricks?i've spent 3 years here helping people and it's all been tossed out the window for magic tricks. i'm done.
ive done side by sides with flushed and un flushed, both cured and uncured. IMO, once cure well, unflushed tastes just as good as the flushed weed.
you dont need to take your ball and go home. youve said it yourself a hundred times, this is a forum for people to express thier opinions.
i still dont know what you meant by hermies?
you don't know what a hermie is?
so if there is no difference between flushed and unflushed i will continue to flush.
in nature, where plants naturally grow, it rains in the fall. the soil gets flushed naturally at the end of the flowering cycle. the nutes run out and the plants colors change. this is often the cause of some of your purple colors. i prefer to keep it real.
how could it be good to smoke a plant that is LOADED FULL OF NUTES?
SlikWiLL13
Well-Known Member
i know what a hermie is
what is thier relavence to this discussion?
i think the rain in the fall argument is weak. so what replaces all those nutes by springtime? what about dryer regions?
im not starting the Church of No Flushing and im not looking for converts. continue growing as you have been, its obvious to you know what your doing. i will continue growing the way i do.
ill take the pepsi challenge anytime.
what is thier relavence to this discussion?i think the rain in the fall argument is weak. so what replaces all those nutes by springtime? what about dryer regions?
im not starting the Church of No Flushing and im not looking for converts. continue growing as you have been, its obvious to you know what your doing. i will continue growing the way i do.
ill take the pepsi challenge anytime.
SlikWiLL13
Well-Known Member
but did they starve that cow for a week prior to slaughter? force it to drink gallons and gallons of water? the weed im talking about is aged just like that steak. poor arguement IMO.
the relevance is, ....i know what a hermie is
i think the rain in the fall argument is weak. so what replaces all those nutes by springtime? what about dryer regions?
im not starting the Church of No Flushing and im not looking for converts. continue growing as you have been, its obvious to you know what your doing. i will continue growing the way i do.
ill take the pepsi challenge anytime.
there are 100 threads on the boards about how hermies are the greatest thing ever for feminized seeds. what a load of crap. now this "don't need to flush" shit pops up as well. it's all BS.
what replaces the nutes is the dead foliage. you know compost. how it get there in the first place.
why does everything turn yellow in the fall? you don't want opinions, you want to argue. this is why i took my ball.
smppro
Well-Known Member
well thats because i wasnt comparing flushing to aging, just showing that just because it doesnt seem natural doesnt mean it isnt a good idea, that didnt seem that hard.
SlikWiLL13
Well-Known Member
i dont care for fem seeds myself, i like males AND seeds. but over ripening IS one of the methods they use for making fem seeds. if these threads you speak of are talking about other kinds of hermies well, the board has always been full of crap advise. anyone who takes something on the internet as gospel without checking themselves is a fool.the relevance is, ....
there are 100 threads on the boards about how hermies are the greatest thing ever for feminized seeds. what a load of crap. now this "don't need to flush" shit pops up as well. it's all BS.
EDIT: and i know what compost is. you really think all the nutes get washed away every fall and replaces every spring? its a constant process.
Brick Top
New Member
you don't know what a hermie is?
That might cause a problem or two for the person in the future.
Only people who have never flushed or never sampled herb where some was flushed and the rest was not so they could then tell the difference would believe flushing makes no difference. KEEP UP YOUR FLUSHING FOR SURE!so if there is no difference between flushed and unflushed i will continue to flush.
in nature, where plants naturally grow, it rains in the fall. the soil gets flushed naturally at the end of the flowering cycle. the nutes run out and the plants colors change. this is often the cause of some of your purple colors. i prefer to keep it real.
I think someone could only claim it is/was natures plan for marijuana plants to be flushed if they just assume that the life cycle of marijuana plants were timed to end at least somewhat in relation to fall rains so they would be flushed but I do not believe that to be the case because I doubt that natures intent was for marijuana plant buds to be smoked. I highly doubt that evolution planned for smoking plants, of any type, and instead it was just that man found that smoking certain parts of certain plants to be pleasurable.
　
To say there was intention for natural flushing so what was smoked would be better tasting and smoother would imply some logical rational thought process behind such a planned creation and that means intelligent design or God or whatever higher power someone chooses to pick was behind it all.
　
Evolution is merely an extremely long lasting incredibly vast uncontrolled experiment where constant experimentation occurs but not with a set long-term goal or use in mind. It only looks for better and not to meet or exceed the set minimum requirements of some thought out plan.
　
Lacking intelligent thought/intelligent design driving/controlling nature, nature would never have foreseen marijuana plants being smoked so it would not then evolve in a way to make them better smoking due to timing their lifecycle with natural weather cycles, like fall rains flushing the soil. Again evolution looks for improvements but not based on ones that will when combined lead them to a specific set long-term goal.
　
Doesnt it just make more sense that plants were made/evolved to use the maximum amount of light possible for the longest period of time and then still be able fully mature to assure that theyre reproduction needs to sustain the species have been met, that seeds had been made and many dropped and they would then be spread by natural forces/acts, possibly even fall rains washing some down hill to then be trapped in some location where in the spring it would then grow and with some luck help to further the spread and survival of the species?
　
That seems to be by very many seed producing/reproducing plants do it and few are used for any purpose other than decoration so it is not like they needed a fall flush to be pretty earlier in the season when they would have been used for decorative purposes. But by making the most of a growing season it improves the chances of survival of the species and the spreading of the species.
　
In the fall many small animals will stored up seeds and smaller nuts for winter-feeding. Some will be dropped along the way and left and the plant species just spread its range. Birds will eat seeds but not digest them and they will be deposited in other areas. The fall rains will settle them into looser soil and on hard soil or rock wash them to cracks or onto soil where they will then settle or maybe just be covered over my loose soft soil that washes over them and then they spend the winter dormant and in the spring, given decent conditions, they will germinate and grow.
　
Lacking intelligent design/intelligent planning that intended for man to enjoy cannabis plants through smoking their buds the timing of their life cycle obviously was the chosen successful evolutionary step that best assured the survival and spreading and not at all involving any possible consideration of what some unplanned creature may or may not one day have learned about the plant having some enjoyment and or medical properties so just in case that eventuality might occur the plant should evolve and then grow/live according to what will best meet the likes or dislikes and tastes of some unknown creature that might possibly one day evolve and who may or may not discover uses for the plant and what uses they might be and what the unknown creature will like best in certain usages.
　
Doesnt seem to make more sense that at some point after man learned that smoking certain portions of plants was indeed pleasurable and or medicinal that they then set out to find ways try to increase their enjoyment and to try to increase medicinal qualities and then learned about flushing and it had nothing to do with natures plan?
　
It appears that possibly the dots you connected to claim fall rains are natures way of saying marijuana should be flushed for the best fullest flavor would be something like connecting two dots from two totally different connect the dots picture books and therefore be totally unable to create any intended to be found picture unless you are claiming that intelligent design of some sort is at play. Lacking that there would be no logic or rationale behind your position.
how could it be good to smoke a plant that is LOADED FULL OF NUTES?
That explanation can be found in the category of what many use to justify and validate what they do. They call it personal preference and that explains it all away and makes it fine and dandy.
　
If it works well enough for them and if they are satisfied they stick with it. To them it is not that they are doing something that is not the best but instead they are doing what is best for them, what they like but it is really more of doing what is just good enough for them even though they fail to see it that way.
　
Everyone has their own list of priorities. Some are skewed by lack of knowledge and or experience in relation to others but to each person their priorities are valid for them. I know guys that would rather smoke something that tasted worse than moldy hamster turds than smoke a very high quality herb that had been properly dried and properly cured and is as smooth as herb could ever get if the herb that tasted worse than moldy hamster turds got them just a tiny bit more buzzed.
　
If someone has out of whack priorities, for whatever reason or reasons, and is totally pleased with them or just doesnt care then there is no use attempting to convince them that your priority list is better or the reasons behind it are more valid or whatever.
To them they already know so nothing you can tell them will likely be allowed to be considered let alone accepted and then adopted and followed/used changing their priority list in the process.
And remember . after all it all does come down to nothing more than personal preference, right?
That is the get out of jail free card for anyone to use if they do not want to admit, or maybe simply cannot accept and therefore could not admit that what they do it not as good as they could otherwise do.
It works for me, I like it, it is my preference so that makes it totally valid and totally acceptable thus what I do is correct, the best way to do things, at least for me anyway.
Green Cross
Well-Known Member
Flush, because growers who are far more experienced than you know the shit won't even stay lit if it's full of nutes. Not only that but fertilizer tastes like shit, because basically it is shit.
And don't expect the plant to bulk up during the flush. When you flush it's because the plant is ripe, and the point of ripeness doesn't occur until after the buds have stopped growing.
If you're looking for poor advice because you have a predetermined outcome that's one thing, but there actually are growers - like myself - who are still interested in growing by the book, because it works! Most of this stuff was figured out before some of you - asking questions - were even born! LOL
And don't expect the plant to bulk up during the flush. When you flush it's because the plant is ripe, and the point of ripeness doesn't occur until after the buds have stopped growing.
If you're looking for poor advice because you have a predetermined outcome that's one thing, but there actually are growers - like myself - who are still interested in growing by the book, because it works! Most of this stuff was figured out before some of you - asking questions - were even born! LOL
aknight3
Moderator
i have been growing for over 8 years, who are you to tell me im not experienced? i have tried both, flushing is no different, my buds do not crackle, ever,they taste like heaven, and im not the only one who says so, i provide for 5 patients and i never flush, i once told them i did and they beleived me, because theres no fucking diffrence, sorry i didnt read it ive tried it, maybe you have been growing much long time and read many books, thats great, i havent, but i have flushed in soil and not flushed in soil, i swear to you there was NO difference in the bud, not in my bud anyways, sry if you have had a different expeience, maybe you use to mmuch nutes to begin with thats why thye taste like shit without a proper flush
hemphopper
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Hey Aknight,
As I have a harvest in my future, I want to ask you about the darkness thing where people are recommending 72 hrs of dark before chopping. Seems extreme to me, I know it's "supposed" to maximize potency. What do you say?
Thanks,
H
As I have a harvest in my future, I want to ask you about the darkness thing where people are recommending 72 hrs of dark before chopping. Seems extreme to me, I know it's "supposed" to maximize potency. What do you say?
Thanks,
H
chronicuser85
Active Member
cool post man
coopdevillan
Well-Known Member
BRICKTOP gosh damn you can blab lol I love it. Ur more than welcome to my threads with ur massively elaborated responses
FDD2BLK is a straight shooter to who is very informative. THANKS
Everyone is entitled to there own way of growing. You must use your common sense,intuition, and science to get a sucessful crop. I filter this and that and use info I feel is legit or theory I like I honestly feel its a LOT of TLC as well. I mean I honestly love my crop and pamper it but I know the shits not gonna fall apart over night. Just grow the shit right.
Walking, riding a bike, spelling, rolling a j, fucking "TRIAL AND TRIBULATION" it's the way of life
FDD2BLK is a straight shooter to who is very informative. THANKS
Everyone is entitled to there own way of growing. You must use your common sense,intuition, and science to get a sucessful crop. I filter this and that and use info I feel is legit or theory I like
I honestly feel its a LOT of TLC as well. I mean I honestly love my crop and pamper it but I know the shits not gonna fall apart over night. Just grow the shit right.Walking, riding a bike, spelling, rolling a j, fucking "TRIAL AND TRIBULATION" it's the way of life
aknight3
Moderator
hemp, personally, i do not do it, again i have done a side by side and have seen no magical trichomes appear after the darkness. and one time i got mold, so it actually had a negative effect from it, imho i wouldnt do it, its a process for trichomes to form thc, cbn and cbd and it takes more than just 3 days to increase thc (to a noticable significant point) again this is just my opinion im sure someone will tell you im wrong but heh thats the glory of the net
so really its all opinion, personally i wouldnt waste my 3 days, good luck
coopdevillan
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I agree it's a MYTH
Brick Top
New Member
If years of experience wins the day until someone with more than 37 years of experience chimes in with an opposing voice .. then crown me king for a day and I decree that flushing makes a difference.
　
I will add this like so many things connected to this practice, mileage may vary.
I am sure than in some strains grown under certain conditions using certain systems there may only at best be a very minimal positive effect from flushing but in most cases it is more than worth doing if flavor and smoothness are high on your list of priorities.
cnymoeman
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bossman88188
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Flush,Flush,Flush,Flush,Flush,Flush......