Is Biden really that bad?

Just saw the thread pop up while I was posting here and thought I'd post a UK perspective on Biden.

A while back the wife of a US diplomat working on a UK airbase went out for a drive in the British countryside. She forgot herself and was driving on the wrong side of the road through country lanes when she met a local guy called Harry Dunne who was out for a ride on his motorcycle.
He died in the collision.
President Trump immediately claimed she was a diplomat and was covered by diplomatic immunity so he immediately had her airlifted back to the US.
Lawyers for the Dunne family managed to discover that she was merely the consort of a diplomat and was therefore not protected by diplomatic immunity, and so she should take responsibility for her actions.
Following Biden's election Anne Sacoulas has now admitted responsibility for her actions and has already appeared via video in the court case against her.
She will appear in person soon in the UK court for sentencing.
The maximum penalty is 5 years in prison, but it is worthy of note that the Dunne family have already asked that no penalty involving imprisonment should be considered because under no circumstances would they wish for a mother to be separated from her children.

Biden's approach will garner way more respect for America than Trump's in this case yet I doubt many Americans will even be aware of it.

ActionianJacksonian said:

“You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. And I’m not joking"

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I hadn't heard that one before, so I had to look it up. Sure enough he did say it back in 2006. SMH, just SMH.

ActionianJacksonian said:

Na. You are never going to convince me those folks came unarmed and thought they were literally going to take control of the government and the entire country. That's what you're implying.

In any case you certainly aren't going to convince me that the 4 people that died that day, all protesters, were 5 police officers as Biden suggested and I quoted which sparked this tangent.

This is the big hot button issue for the Dems though right?

Their platform for 2022:

Trump
J6
Dobbs

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They were not all unarmed. Several guns came along, and many more if that man had been heeded when he ordered “the fucking magnetometers” removed.
As for the rest of it, you’re hinging your entire argument on nitpicking. What happened at and in the Capitol was no protest. We have Oath Keeper testimony on the plan to bring in the weapons en masse, a plan thwarted by a narrow margin.

ActionianJacksonian said:

Yes let's talk law. Who is in prison for weapons and charged with insurrection from that day.

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It isn't over, there are plenty of prosecutions to come over J6 and many were armed with spears disguised as flags, the SS was concerned with multiple reports of guns in the crowd and people were busted carrying. They had an insurrectionist "heavily armed rapid reaction force in Virgina waiting to go. You should watch the J6 hearings on YouTube, they will be there forever, as will video of the violence against the USA and its constitution.

cannabineer said:

They were not all unarmed. Several guns came along, and many more if that man had been heeded when he ordered “the fucking magnetometers” removed.
As for the rest of it, you’re hinging your entire argument on nitpicking. What happened at and in the Capitol was no protest. We have Oath Keeper testimony on the plan to bring in the weapons en masse, a plan thwarted by a narrow margin.

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He is immune to facts. Just saying. Ignore button is my solution to his kind of determined ignorance.

cannabineer said:

They were not all unarmed. Several guns came along, and many more if that man had been heeded when he ordered “the fucking magnetometers” removed.
As for the rest of it, you’re hinging your entire argument on nitpicking. What happened at and in the Capitol was no protest. We have Oath Keeper testimony on the plan to bring in the weapons en masse, a plan thwarted by a narrow margin.

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Congrats. 3 were armed 1 was LEO. Mostly peaceful protest.

ActionianJacksonian said:

Congrats. 3 were armed 1 was LEO. Mostly peaceful protest.

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Do you wear a vest and carry bear spray to those?
I usually take a picnic basket

ActionianJacksonian said:

Congrats. 3 were armed 1 was LEO. Mostly peaceful protest.

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Herb & Suds said:

Do you wear a vest and carry bear spray to those?
I usually take a picnic basket

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oh please don’t mention bear spray

How many guns does $20k buy you?

That's more than 3, right?

shimbob said:

Oath Keepers Leader Bought Arsenal of Weapons Ahead of Jan. 6 (Published 2022)

The prosecution in the seditious conspiracy trial of Stewart Rhodes and other members of the militia introduced evidence that he spent as much as $20,000 on rifles, ammunition and other equipment.

www.nytimes.com

His many guns does $20k buy you?

Oath Keepers Cached Weapons for Jan. 6 Capitol Attack, Prosecutors Say

The right-wing militia group was prepared to move a stash of firearms and equipment from a Virginia hotel to rioters last year, prosecutors said, painting the most detailed portrait yet of the planning the group’s members allegedly undertook as they tried to stop certification of President...

www.wsj.com

That's more than 3, right?

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Now don't bother him with facts and "fake news".

DIY-HP-LED said:

Now don't bother him with facts and "fake news".

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Wrong thread too,

Even CNN is finally starting to get it, .

PadawanWarrior said:

Even CNN is finally starting to get it, .

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/05/politics/fact-check-biden-midterms-2022/index.html

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The Dems here will claim, "that's because CNN is right wing now!", but this (which begs the question, is Daniel Dale really so easily bought out to be used as a political propagandist to his puppet masters' whims, and if so could we ever believe him or CNN at all from the start, if we are led to believe that their entire reporting protocol is based on an agenda handed down from high?)..

PJ Diaz said:

The Dems here will claim, "that's because CNN is right wing now!", but this (which begs the question, is Daniel Dale really so easily bought out to be used as a political propagandist to his puppet masters' whims, and if so could we ever believe him or CNN at all from the start, if we are led to believe that their entire reporting protocol is based on an agenda handed down from high?)..

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Imagine the delusion of that sentiment winning a debate. As if the actual conversation between the two is not all that there is to the story.

PJ Diaz said:

could we ever believe him or CNN at all from the start, if we are led to believe that their entire reporting protocol is based on an agenda handed down from high?)..

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Why should Fox have 100% of the 45% of Americans that support Putin?

i'm just curious where all this enthusiasm for fact checking was during the four years fuckface trump was in office, lying through his teeth every time he opened his mouth? i don't recall either of you ever once going to this much effort to discredit trump...
i care as much about Biden lying as you all care about trump lying...
Biden isn't trying to destroy our country, trump is. Biden isn't stealing secret documents, trump is. Biden doesn't rip off his followers, trump does...Biden is a better person in every way. if he occasionally stretches the truth, if he occasionally makes a mistake, if he occasionally just tells a bald faced lie...he's not doing it to line his own pockets, he's doing it to try to keep the country from falling apart, in direct opposition of every single thing trump does.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

i'm just curious where all this enthusiasm for fact checking was during the four years fuckface trump was in office, lying through his teeth every time he opened his mouth? i don't recall either of you ever once going to this much effort to discredit trump...
i care as much about Biden lying as you all care about trump lying...
Biden isn't trying to destroy our country, trump is. Biden isn't stealing secret documents, trump is. Biden doesn't rip off his followers, trump does...Biden is a better person in every way. if he occasionally stretches the truth, if he occasionally makes a mistake, if he occasionally just tells a bald faced lie...he's not doing it to line his own pockets, he's doing it to try to keep the country from falling apart, in direct opposition of every single thing trump does.

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He also admits his mistakes, which is a good leadership quality. Compare and contrast.