Iran kick off looking iminant?

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From a country that fabricated a lie to invade Iraq and kill off a few hundred thousand civilians and bombed it to dust. I'm not fussed how flawed the logic is, we'd deserve anything we get and i wouldn't shed a tear reap what you sow.

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So you think we the United States should do what? We are a proud country with damn proud people. We are like this for a reason. We run this shit because we are the strongest. Think about how crazy you would have to be to bark at the United States.
I do think we have gone far astray from how it should be as our policy imo.

And I'm not saying we should police the world with our power and we should not use it as such. But I also belive if we expect any less than the best military we will suffer in defense. I have always liked Hamiltons stance on this issue. Not all issues though.

This is what i'm talking about. Your country has no respect for anyone, you think you're the strongest so therefore you can bomb who you like without reprecussion Hence why i have no issue over the concept of a terrorist attack against yourselves, or the UK, the lesson needs to be taught. A human life is a human life. We have this idea that if they live in the sand then their life means nothing. What we killed an innocent family, oops, "we'll looks into it"

As i say, we/you are the biggest bunch of terrorists on the earth, we should not be proud of this.= and we fully deserve ANYTHING we get.

I disagree with you. Acting like a beast is not an option. As a man who has seen a very limited amount of operations in a conflict, there is no reason to attack civies there is no greater tragedy. This is why we have warriors. If we resorted to fighting like them we would be condemned in every corner of the globe. But if the reasoning is we deserve to have our citizens afraid to live for fear of some coward who won't stand up and fight, we have an army to keep us safe. If your going to say we shouldnt, but I think we need a defense against this brand of war. No one should worry about their fucking bus exploding while going to work. This is not a fight of our people this is a government issue. And as stated we have an army for fighting when we have to.

fenderburn84 said:

I disagree with you. Acting like a beast is not an option. As a man who has seen a very limited amount of operations in a conflict, there is no reason to attack civies there is no greater tragedy. This is why we have warriors. If we resorted to fighting like them we would be condemned in every corner of the globe. But if the reasoning is we deserve to have our citizens afraid to live for fear of some coward who won't stand up and fight, we have an army to keep us safe. If your going to say we shouldnt, but I think we need a defense against this brand of war. No one should worry about their fucking bus exploding while going to work. This is not a fight of our people this is a government issue. And as stated we have an army for fighting when we have to.

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Warriors? You send in drones to blow up women and children and deny the whole idea that you got the wrong target. They don't worry about their bus exploding to work, they worry about you killing them in thei sleep without even having to put a man on the ground. And afraid to stand up and fight? According to the story they're willing to commit suicide to achieve their goal, we're so scared we've created drone armies. Talk about being scared to stand up and fight A warrior would fight, not send a machine to do his job.

When did you have to fight in Iraq? Last i checked it was factually confirmed that the entire reasoing behind war that caused hundreds of thousands of civillian deaths, was a lie. Yet you/we have the cheek to accuse others of crimes against humanity etc.

Most people perceive governments like ours as beasts, who're you trying to fool, Cameron and the rest of the world leaders do not speak for their people.

I never fought in Iraq, but yes cowards. I have nothing to discuss with you. Anyone who rationalizes terrorism away a just deserts has no buissness talking to me and has no reason to talk to one like me.

whats all this we shit! i dont agree with anything the american government does. i would leave in a heartbeat if i could...peace

You keep supporting your warriors who sit behind the desk controlling a remote control plane and killing some children so they can convince themselves it wasn't really them that pulled the trigger

You rationalised terrorism under the lie that they had WMD's, lieing bunch of cunts. There's a reason the people of the world hold little respect for Americans

My new strain is called 9/11, kicks your ass to ground zero, do not pass go, do not collect $200, you got fucked up People seem to be enjoying the name

Oh yeah. So in your opinion it is completely justified to blow up a subway tunnel? Or attack citizens for the wrongs of their government? So how is that any different? Also we were attacked by cowards before we even started that worthless war in Iraq. But weren't there terror attacks before Iraq? Your opinion is useless.

fenderburn84 said:

Oh yeah. So in your opinion it is completely justified to blow up a subway tunnel? Or attack citizens for the wrongs of their government? So how is that any different? Also we were attacked by cowards before we even started that worthless war in Iraq. But weren't there terror attacks before Iraq? Your opinion is useless.

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Actually he has some valid points sans the hate speech.

Well according to Osama bin Laden.
We were attacked for having bases in Saudi Arabia
Bases we were invited to build.
And our support of Israel.

As far as people living in fear that they will be killed in there sleep. The answer is obvious. Dont invite jihadis into your house. And the whole polint of war is not to die for your country or your causes. But make the other guy die for his.

It's not that I don't agree but to justify human bombs is ludacris. Hate speech like that kills the arguement.

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Oh yeah. So in your opinion it is completely justified to blow up a subway tunnel? Or attack citizens for the wrongs of their government? So how is that any different? Also we were attacked by cowards before we even started that worthless war in Iraq. But weren't there terror attacks before Iraq? Your opinion is useless.

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I'm in no position to say whether it was justified or not. But destroying an entire country because they destroyed a tower or two is not justified, especially when it was supposedly just some terrorist group and nothing to do with the Afghan people

Your opinion is equally useless, you're sat here trying to defend a terrorist regime. Sorry, trying to defend amierica. To the rest of the world they're one an the same thing. America has zero respect for human lives unless they're that of their own, the world perceives you as pathetic. If you're going to accidentally kill off some innocent women and children, whoops doesn't cut it as much as you'd like to believe.

I'm not fussed with your attitude though, the world has a sterotype of America for a darn good reason Politicians don't speak for the public, they speak for their finances, contracts and monetary incentives. There's a good reason the world has a dislike for America and the other western countries

Ever wonder why you never pick a war or fight with a cnoutry with the capability to attack back with effect. I have no issue with Iran and a Nuclear bomb, or North korea, or any other country, but the guys in charge are scared shitless of the notion of a country that has a manner or striking back

You keep trying to justify sending drones to kill innocent women and children for no reason though What am i talking about, drones? you have warriors! Sart enough warriors to all board the same helicopter and get shot the fuck down bunch of second rate muppets.

What wasnt justified was an invasion of Afghanistan for Osama bin Ladens attack killing 3000 american civilians.

Justifiable was launching a couple of nukes within a few hundred feet of where he was camped out.

And stop crying about drones. This is not some jousting tournament. We are there to kill the enemy. Not have a gladiator fight.

HereToday said:

What wasnt justified was an invasion of Afghanistan for Osama bin Ladens attack killing 3000 american civilians.

Justifiable was launching a couple of nukes within a few hundred feet of where he was camped out.

And stop crying about drones. This is some jousting tournament. We are there to kill the enemy. Not have a gladiator fight.

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Yet you were incompetent enough to not launch a couple of nuke within a few hundred feet of where he was at, you had to destroy afghanistan only to find, wait, oh yeah, he was in pakistan. great work! Since when were innocent women and children the enemy?

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Yet you were incompetent enough to not launch a couple of nuke within a few hundred feet of where he was at, you had to destroy afghanistan only to find, wait, oh yeah, he was in pakistan. great work! Since when were innocent women and children the enemy?

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Destroy Afghanistan?
Hardly. And he was in Afghanistan until he escaped to Pakistan.
Maybe if we had invaded rather than use a couple hundred Spec Ops "warriors" and Afghanistan troops he wouldnt of escaped.

Then again. We knew with in a few square miles. We could of easily of NUKED the fucking bastard and not had any ground troops there at all.
And I seriously have no pity for the Afghanies who harbored him. not one little tiny bit of remorse

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Then again. We knew with in a few square miles. We could of easily of NUKED the fucking bastard and not had any ground troops there at all.

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Yet you were so incompetent that you didn't bother Instead waged war in a country for 10 years instead You must be very proud

The "greatest army in the world" yet it took you 10 years not to catch him regardless of knowing where he was within a few square miles? lol, that sounds pretty damn retarded to me think about it, you knew where he was yet even 10 years coudln't help you kill him without then violating a supposed friendly nations sovereignty. As i say, there's a reason the world has a sterotype of americans as stupid

It sucks but when there is war, there is death. It's not fair. And I wish it didn't happen. And there was a little problem in your theory, the afgan government was in bed with with our enemy, housed our enemy, supplied our enemy, and did nothing to stop this attack. They were guilty by reason of that was their country. I'm sure we disagree on this though.

fenderburn84 said:

It sucks but when there is war, there is death. It's not fair. And I wish it didn't happen. And there was a little problem in your theory, the afgan government was in bed with with our enemy, housed our enemy, supplied our enemy, and did nothing to stop this attack. They were guilty by reason of that was their country. I'm sure we disagree on this though.

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Well then I guess we disagree. Because in my opinion every single person within 100 square miles of Bin Laden at the time should of gone to Allah proppelled by a mushroom cloud

fenderburn84 said:

It sucks but when there is war, there is death. It's not fair. And I wish it didn't happen. And there was a little problem in your theory, the afgan government was in bed with with our enemy, housed our enemy, supplied our enemy, and did nothing to stop this attack. They were guilty by reason of that was their country. I'm sure we disagree on this though.

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The US government was equally complicit 10+ years later and they're still unable to give a scientifically plausible explanation to the supposed events