Inda-gro Induction...

sammy2 said:

We have a northern light on the left and a super sour diesel on the right going on day 49. Back middle is blueberry and front middle is kushberry going on day 28.
I'm growing with a Pro Series 400 and I'm happy with the results so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGDbRU8LB28

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Thank you for sharing! The buds look as large as any HPS.

sammy2 said:

We have a northern light on the left and a super sour diesel on the right going on day 49. Back middle is blueberry and front middle is kushberry going on day 28.
I'm growing with a Pro Series 400 and I'm happy with the results so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGDbRU8LB28

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I can smell that tent from here bro! And that's with the older 400 series which misses some of the red spectrum. Truly beautiful!

If you're familiar with this strain hows the density, trichome and oil compared with HPS grows?

Hi,

I'm new to this forum and semi new to growing. I have always grown under the direction of another. I finally decided to grow my own way on my own and started off on what I feel was the best foot possible. I started with the Inda-Gro Pro 420.

I started a grow journal somewhere else but have added some pictures of the girls below.

Looks like I have a lot of reading to do to catch up on 61 pages of info, lol

Anyway, I love, love, love these lights, my electric bill is manageable, my girls are so happy and stress free; there is simply not enough good things I can say about the Pro- 420 from Inda-Gro. From the fixture, to the professional courtesy this company treats you with. My second fixture arrived today, just in time to expand my grow, that's how much I love this system

I really can't see why anyone would purchase any other system other than Inda-Gro.

QueenBeeBuds said:

Hi,

I'm new to this forum and semi new to growing. I have always grown under the direction of another. I finally decided to grow my own way on my own and started off on what I feel was the best foot possible. I started with the Inda-Gro Pro 420.

I started a grow journal here:
http://ledbudguy.com/showthread.php/8215-Inda-Gro-Pro-420-First-Grow-Journal

Looks like I have a lot of reading to do to catch up on 61 pages of info, lol

Anyway, I love, love, love these lights, my electric bill is manageable, my girls are so happy and stress free; there is simply not enough good things I can say about the Pro- 420 from Inda-Gro. From the fixture, to the professional courtesy this company treats you with. My second fixture arrived today, just in time to expand my grow, that's how much I love this system

I really can't see why anyone would purchase any other system other than Inda-Gro.

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Welcome Queen Bee and good call on your lights. Let's see some pics on this forum if you would be so kind. Directing a link to another forum might get you banned here and we don't want that.

Any questions you might have there are plenty of us here that are only too happy to toss in our .02 centavos.

chazbolin said:

I can smell that tent from here bro! And that's with the older 400 series which misses some of the red spectrum. Truly beautiful!

If you're familiar with this strain hows the density, trichome and oil compared with HPS grows?

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I was using a 400 HID and replaced it with Pro Series 400. I really can't see the difference between the 420 and the 400 when it comes actually growing.
The red spectrum is part of the answer to growing bigger and stronger meds, but I'm thinking that the UV and IR spectrums output must be one of the difference makers with induction lighting. These strains are budding larger and growing more trichomes than before. Each grow has different needs and
depending on the ambient temperature different types of lighting needs. With my grow, I'm using just the induction light with outstanding results.

chazbolin said:

Welcome Queen Bee and good call on your lights. Let's see some pics on this forum if you would be so kind. Directing a link to another forum might get you banned here and we don't want that.

Any questions you might have there are plenty of us here that are only too happy to toss in our .02 centavos.

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Thanks I didn't realize it, my bad. I started most of my girls from seed and have 3 clones that I added. I am growing mostly sativas and the tight formation I have going on is like wow!
Here they are @ 4 weeks old

Redoctober said:

What makes you say that? I was thinking of trying one but your comment gives me pause. Since the lights are so new and people aren't familiar with the technology, I can understand people being hesitant to drop $800 just to try something. Also there is only one journal going with the Inda-Gro 420 over at icmag but it's just finishing veg. If you have valid reasons that lead you to believe they are not doing what they claim i.e. manufacturing the lights in the US, or making lights of poor quality, I'd love to know before I spend the $$$. I hope they are who they say they are. I do like their videos on youtube, and have found them informative.

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I am sure that as I read I will perhaps find that you think differently, but I just wanted to say that I had an electrician here and when I told him I grow with induction lighting, the first words out of his mouth was, 'wow" that lighting is built to last. He was then surprised to see it had been pared for 420 and the great results thus far on my new grow. He was in awe being both an electrician and now ex-grower.

I am so happy with this light, my electric bill is manageable, my girls are so happy, heck they germinated under that light in 24-48 hrs! I just received my 2nd light and just like the first time, the customer service I receive from this company is par to none, even when my initial purchase was pushed back from when I wanted to first order. They still treated me as if I bought it, when one of the most popular LED light companies, shun me.

So far the light is paying it's self back in the first month with lower electric cost, no stressed out plants that you need to buy extra stuff for and no need to worry about extra cooling down cost, faster and stronger growth which requires less extras.

Yep, new technology is risky and I hope that as I continue to read I see that you have now changed your mind. Because if I can wow an electrician with the Pro 420, then this light must be the bomb.

FYI the only thing you should do every so often on these lights is take a microfiber towel that you can get in any auto parts store, even walmart sells them, and clean the reflector a couple times a year. Don't use any kind of solvents just rub any spots, like finger prints,out with the towel. When I was speaking with Jeff the engineer at IG he told me that the reflector design and material adds something like 40% more intensity at the canopy. Keep it clean and don't scratch it.

Thanks for the pics QueenBee. Are you on a 18/6 schedule right now? also what nutes are you using?

Few pics for y'all
veg room and my babies. They are 4 1/2 weeks old. Topped at week three and now it's time for some LST
spliff,
checked out some of your videos on Utube. Very nice use of your space and lights and I have to agree with the others about the music. That techno stuff was kinda stressfull. Maybe something kinda mellow in the background might be nice but just my .02. Your yield per watt and gallon are great. What kinda of training /topping do you do?40 something topps is awesome. Have you seen a book called Secrets of the west coast masters?

The Ganga farmer said:

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veg room and my babies. They are 4 1/2 weeks old. Topped at week three and now it's time for some LST
spliff,
checked out some of your videos on Utube. Very nice use of your space and lights and I have to agree with the others about the music. That techno stuff was kinda stressfull. Maybe something kinda mellow in the background might be nice but just my .02. Your yield per watt and gallon are great. What kinda of training /topping do you do?40 something topps is awesome. Have you seen a book called Secrets of the west coast masters?

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great lookin girls for sure ~ beastly little bushes! also, sweet lookin piece (in pic one, on the table to the left) however, seeing that you smoke in the grow room, i would suggest that you look into Hemp Mosaic Virus... personally i never smoke anything in or near either of my grow rooms, and when going in to look or work, i always wash up first. i've read many forum threads of cannabis grows infected with one of the many Mosaic Virii; tobacco, and hemp variants seem the most common, but there are others. a lot of commercially grown produce has one form or another. potatoes are notorious, according to many of my college horticulture professors. also, most tobacco has it. and the virus can be transmitted via smoke or smoke residue on hands. once a plant has it, it is not only a vector (bugs that nibble it can pass the virus to other plants in the area by chewing on them afterwards), but it will also become very susceptible to light stress and start to grow out leaves with hard right/left turns, partial albinism, etc. i'm sure that i'll get called out as being anal or something here... whatever says i. ounces of prevention cost a whole lot less than pounds of cure.

i think i learned the lesson about the audio track in the videos, tho. that particular one was done that way because the roommate and some friends were drinking and having a somewhat loud time of it, and i didn't want to have my talking overshadowed by random riffs from the late 80s. i figured that if i had to have music in the vid, i might as well control the selection. i totally appreciate the input tho.

as for training, most of veg i let the plants rock out how they like. i do make sure that they don't have foliage that touches soil or the pot rims. once they get 6 nodes or so, i clean off the bottom 2 and remove the first 1-2 sets of new tertiary growth. i prefer phenos that have bush tenancies vs tree tenancies (axillary growth dominant vs apical growth dominant). and so i usually only have to train the ones that want to stand up too tall. to train them, i use HST techniques. but because they recover, phototropically, very quickly under the Inda-Gro's, i generally have to retrain then every day for a week or so. the biggest thing is that when i get them ready for bloom, they go into those grid things. last grow i was only able to locate one, but this grow i have plenty and extras... so its a test of it. the CT and MP got gridded two weeks before flip, the AO and WF got gridded 1 week before flip, and the OL got gridded (and topped) as she went into the bloom tent. i generally don't top so close to bloom, but i had a mishap with my clones of her and needed more as she is a fave... GD mites...

regarding that book, no i haven't heard of it. when it comes to my techniques or research, i generally rely on what i learned in classes, or what i can find in scholarly articles online, or personal trial and error.

i'm really excited to see the g/W of this run. as well as the one in the back yard - she's getting huge! i went out just now to see about maybe shooting a video of her, but the neighbors are having some work done on their house... all power tools and hammers over there... i think i'm just gonna start a new thread to follow her adventures when the Flower Initiator thing gets here.

well i need to get out and busy for the afternoon... hope everyone is doing well!

Splifferous said:

have you put thought to medium or nute line that you will use?

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Forgot to mention I changed my mind, going with EJ now. Thinking it may get along better with my high PH water.

Inda-Gro called yesterday, they have my 200 PAR assembled and are sending it via FedEx.

Spliff
bong was in room for the pic only. I have taken a few hits in veg room when certain company comes over and don't want to stink up my house but trust me I have of the cleanest grow Iv ever been in. I'm a sanitizing fool and vaccume my rooms all most daily with a dyson vac that has a hepa filter on it and is for my grow only not shared with my house. Sorry to hear about the mite issue. I did battle with them a few years back and learned the hard way about how important it is to have some kind of a spray regimen. When I say this I mean organic sprays and veg room only. I will look up the hemp mosaic virus I have never heard of it and im sure it will change my mind about burning in my room. Its all the little things you can do to keep a healthy garden. Peace

Ha ............knowing spliff he'll just seal the room and drive up the co2 and kill them the cleanest way possible without hurting his precious girls

Can induction lights be hung at an angle over the canopy like this /\ ? Or do they need to be flat? Don't know much about the nature of the bulbs so thanks in advance.

Psuagro,

The cleanest way is to not even get them and be proactive. I run a sealed room and have bleached leaves before from to much co2. Im sure it was from several days/weeks of too much,not just a couple of hours Stunted growth and affected yield accordingly. I'm not saying it doesn't work I'm sure it does. I feel for anybody that is doing battle with the little fuckers. Does pumping up the co2 kill mite eggs or just live mites ?

puffenuff said:

Can induction lights be hung at an angle over the canopy like this /\ ? Or do they need to be flat? Don't know much about the nature of the bulbs so thanks in advance.

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What Inda-Gro has done is captured much of the lost light that gets wasted between the two tubes and behind the lamps and moves that energy to the canopy with a minimum bend high reflectance reflector for horizontal installation.

I've always felt that lamps hung vertically waste a lot of energy that the plants don't absorb. Chlorophyll receptors exist on the tops of the leaves since they've evolved to take photons that come off the sun in vertical packets until they strike the ionosphere where they are distributed in horizontal packets to the receptors. It wouldn't hurt anything to hang the lights vertically and the lamps operational characteristics aren't reduced but I've always been a fan of the horizontal lamp to more closely mimic nature. I also don't want to burn the underside of the leaves as I've recently seen done in a garden with 1500 watt vertically hung HPS lamps. So vertical may work for you but for me I'd rather pound out top down energy and move the canopy with a couple of fans.

puffenuff said:

Can induction lights be hung at an angle over the canopy like this /\ ? Or do they need to be flat? Don't know much about the nature of the bulbs so thanks in advance.

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hey there

i'd suggest to call Inda-Gro, and perhaps ask Darryl or Jeff directly. i know from previous conversation (and i think Chaz mentioned it briefly previously in this thread) that they are aware of another grower that uses movers like i do, but the lights cantilever in a bit at the ends of the travel. in that mode of operation, they spend most of their time horizontal and there are no issues. iirc, the key issue regarding the position these lamps operate in is that the mercury amalgam wants a constant temperature that is easier to maintain horizontally.

based on my experience, i keep the lamps horizontal and between the close proximity mylar from the tent and the light movers, there really is no need to want to angle the lamps.

That's what I was wondering about because of the gases inside and all that. Just wondering because with the t5 setup I was using for veg I could have one end raised higher for taller clones.

puff

When I was at Inda-Gro last week Jeff (the engineer) said they were thinking of a system that would tilt the light back and forth.

Not sure how extreme of angles they are considering, would be best to call and ask.

and how about, say the light is not hang properly (whats the weight of the light by the way!?) What would happen if the light falls and break the bulb while it's on? (mainly wondering about fire hazard or if the gaz would kill the plants...)