Inda-gro Induction...

Some of the 213 I inherited that went outdoors is really looking healthy too.

Feeling better on day 23. No more signs of PM and there is lots of new growth. So far I am really liking the Botanicare 'Kind' nutes. Flip next week.





GSC babies

Day 28 Update

I went an extra week on veg to make sure the PM and mites had been kept at bay. Been a week now with no signs of either and the color is really come back on all the plants. Especially the GSC which had been the worse off. The root systems have now all caught up and gotten dense with lots of new growth. I'm feeling pretty good about the recovery from where I started when I took these over. I decided to move everything into the larger 4 x 4 tray and plan on flipping this weekend to a 14/10 schedule. I'll be using the single 420 with pontoon centered in the tent through finish so everyone can see a 420's coverage and penetration for a 5 x 5 trellis area. Should be fun from here on out.



It's been in the high 80's outside but so far the tent temps are hanging in 75-80 ranges. Haven't had to use the AC yet.



These were the 213 from the cloner last week and the rest of 213 is ready to go in.

Have a great weekend everyone!!!

I found a bunch of info on the conference on the ashs site. Registered for online member. But I couldn't find anything out about the expo? Whats the expo itself all about? Are the tours in the schedule part of the expo? I kind of want to attend the conference. I think people there are out of my league. All my horticulture knowledge is self educated pretty much. Took some classes in college. But my degree is an AA in audio. Theres no BA for audio. Thats as far as it goes. there were more in depth audio classes. But nothing that went torwards a degree.

Give me some details please?



Plants look.good. Im diggin those outdoor ones.

This is the annual ASHS expo being held in Palm Desert. It really is a place for anyone involved in horticultural sciences to come together for a few days and exchange information, attend lectures, discuss ongoing studies and funding opportunities, meet with vendors that might wish to engage a wide variety of attendees from students to advanced academics that might display their latest designs and innovations. This will be my first year attending the annual convention and like you stated, I will also be in some deep water during some of these presentations. But I always enjoy listening in and usually walk away with something of value and at least an appreciation for the area being discussed even though it might not have any particular or immediate impact on my projects. As a member if you get 1/2 as much out of the papers in their database I think you'll be glad you joined.

Yeah I'm digging the outdoor ladies myself. Thanks for the comments.

I happened across this OSRAM presentation on lighting and LED's in particular that I thought was well put together. If you haven't seen it before it I liked that even in 2010 they were recognizing , page 8, that current methods of measuring plant light were, as they put it; 'inadequate'.

http://solaroenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/OSRAM-Horticulture-Application-Grow-Lights.pdf

Thought to share these shots of a flowering garden in Denver that was switched about 6 weeks ago to the Pro-420-Pontoon combo's. The room had been set up with ten 1000 watt HPS hoods with remote ballasts. The load in this room went from >10000 watts to 3680 with roughly 1/3 the heat produced with a vastly improved wiring system in the room and at the controller. Still about a week from harvest but the crop seems to be on par with their HPS run.

Week 7 Update
Strains: VGH OG, Lemon Kush x Afghani , Sno Cap, Orange Cream Sickle, King Louie XIII, El Diablo OG, and Presidential OG.
Lighting: 8 ea., Inda-Gro Pro-420 Pontoon Combo
Photoperiod: 14/10
Nutrients: Botanicare KIND


They've also been playing with a pulley system that let's them swivel the lights from a single point connection to the light. I haven't seen this tried before but without much walk around room I guess it makes sense in that they can raise the lights and get to work. Kind of messes with the 660 distribution between fixtures but we shall see. Who knows they may be on to something.

Wow 82K views on this thread! What a long strange trip it's been. Buck, if you're out there, a dab of my finest on your behalf this morning....ahhh that's better! Salud brother!

So here I am looking at my Day 7 of flower and I'm still waiting to see some pistils. Everything is really healthy running a 14/10 photoperiod and still feeding every other day. I'm not getting any stretching so the 5 x 5 coverage so far seems to be holding up. Temps outdoors have been in the low 90's but the tent temps have stayed below 80 with humidity in the low 50's. The AC only runs an hour or two a day so I can't complain when I hear what other parts of the country are dealing with. Perhaps a 12/12 would have initiated flower by now then move to a 14/10. I dunno any thoughts anyone? I can try it next run and see if it makes a difference. Cmon ladies give em up. Let's shoot for the 4th. That'll be my fireworks.



Later Gang!

chazbolin said:

Wow 82K views on this thread! What a long strange trip it's been. Buck, if you're out there, a dab of my finest on your behalf this morning....ahhh that's better! Salud brother!

So here I am looking at my Day 7 of flower and I'm still waiting to see some pistils. Everything is really healthy running a 14/10 photoperiod and still feeding every other day. I'm not getting any stretching so the 5 x 5 coverage so far seems to be holding up. Temps outdoors have been in the low 90's but the tent temps have stayed below 80 with humidity in the low 50's. The AC only runs an hour or two a day so I can't complain when I hear what other parts of the country are dealing with. Perhaps a 12/12 would have initiated flower by now then move to a 14/10. I dunno any thoughts anyone? I can try it next run and see if it makes a difference. Cmon ladies give em up. Let's shoot for the 4th. That'll be my fireworks.

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Chaz,I'm using a 10 watt flower initiator from growlightsource and have it on a strain that I have not run before.I started at 13.5/10.5 but saw no pistils at day 5 when I usually see them with other strains I've run so I backed off to 13/11 and saw pistils at day 7.I'm wondering if it might be somewhat strain dependent on how far you can push the phytochrome change with 730nm before you see negative results.We might need to dial in how far we can push each strain by trial and error.I'm also wondering what your thoughts are on reducing the the light hours at the end of flower to make the plant finish strong when using 730nm,say like reducing it by 5 or 10 minutes a day for the last two weeks.

Those are some nice big healthy ladies.

Cannabis will/can flower at less than 14.2 hours of light naturally outdoors. That's why we don't put out our outdoor till june up here. Which is why I think that running 14/10 indoor with the pontoon initiator should be no problem and work great. Give it a couple more days and see. If not then maybe 13/11 or just the old 12/12.

That 14.2hrs is an average, so like Cmorgan said, the strains could just be lagging too.

Some strain Take twice as long to start flowering.
so i use Dr Greenthumbs (40+ yrs growing!) method of 48 hrs dark to start flowering.
Seems to kick ass for me?
im always plain with sativas in a small cab.

It takes a week or 2 off the slow switch to flower some sativa ladies have IMHO.
Any one else do this

For the sativas I might try it but on the hybrids I'd be afraid that big a shock might lead to some hermaphroditing. So I'm just a waiting....

With the IR I have in the coral wave t5 my indicas start flowering by day 7-8. The sativas day 9-11. So I would imagine that the amount of IR the induction puts out, it would do the same. You do not want them to start flowering any sooner than that. Otherwise they would not gain and extra foot or 2 in height and have less bud sites.

I'm with Chaz on that one. Any IBL strains do have a tendency to hermie under very little stress.

BUSTED! I don't know what these guys were thinking posting up the Inda-Gro Pro-420 lights on their page saying that these are their lights but the Green Spirit Farms author checked them on it. There is little doubt that these guys are the true descendants of the little known but now extinct Brontosaurus Dumbassius.

https://www.facebook.com/Igrowinduction/posts/329868160480280

Oooopz!...hahaha....you can almost see the scramble around their office....

yeah no doubt they're running around trying to lay their hands on those patents and USDA approval papers.

This is the post where the author called them out.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Spirit-Farms/294500320601446

And while igrow will quickly work to delete every post that brings this little 'misstatement' up on their FB page, Green Spirit Farms will let it lay out there for all to see as I understand they are pretty pissed.

Day 38 for these three girls.

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Wat a bunch of scammers. Their hoods are white not that nice reflection you see in the pic, why oh why do they try this shit lol. really is unbecoming since I see those p.o.s when i go to my local shop and every time I pray no one buys them cuz they are giving a bad name to efdl.... oh and loon and chaz your girls look great, you guys have me excited to get the 420-pro+pontoon back up and running this month!

'Expert' trial? I thought that's what we were 1.5 years ago over here @ RIU? Oh well it's a nice looking run showing weeks 1,2 & 3. I am digging the trellis and commentary. It seems the edge coverage is pretty good in that there is no stretching on the outside plants. Kind of nice to see others trying this setup and seeing the results. Have at it guys but we were still here first!

http://bigbudsmag.com/grow/how/article/expert-test-inda-grow-induction-lighting-flowering-week-three

Hey ya'll! Got a bit stacked up so sorry for the delay in updates but here's a day 16 flower update that got shot today when Big D was stopped by for tea and crumpets. Since the last update I had to drop the OG out when it hermied on me. So I'm left with the 2 GSC, 1 DreamQueen and the Blueberry Diesel which are all perky and strong.



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