In America today, who has it worse?

Rob Roy

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You have your believe and thank bejesus that the majority think you are wrong. Even to have your sick way of thinking we would still need a law to make it so.
So what do you disagree with? I think you own yourself and your justly acquired property, but you don't own others or their property.

Where do I get "sick" in that belief ?
 

londonfog

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So what do you disagree with? I think you own yourself and your justly acquired property, but you don't own others or their property.

Where do I get "sick" in that belief ?
your ways of thinking supports discrimination. That's sick. We all bleed blood the same color
 

Rob Roy

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no If he can't be man enough to ask if you support someone denying service based on the color of skin I have no time to for him

I said I personally don't support doing that, maybe like 150 times. I avoid interacting with people that violate my principles, but I have no right to aggress against them to make them serve me....neither do you.

However, I also don't support forcing a person to use their property in ways they prefer not to. You do support that or support a gang (coercive government) doing it on your behalf.

Essentially I support DEFENSIVE FORCE as a justified action, but I do not support OFFENSIVE force, you do, which makes you offensive minded.
 

Rob Roy

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your ways of thinking supports discrimination. That's sick. We all bleed blood the same color
No my way of thinking facilitates peace. If we honor another person and their justly acquired property and they do the same, where is the conflict ? YOU are the one that is ready to make others do YOUR bidding using threats, not me.
 

londonfog

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I said I personally don't support doing that, maybe like 150 times. I avoid interacting with people that violate my principles, but I have no right to aggress against them to make them serve me....neither do you.

However, I also don't support forcing a person to use their property in ways they prefer not to. You do support that or support a gang (coercive government) doing it on your behalf.

Essentially I support DEFENSIVE FORCE as a justified action, but I do not support OFFENSIVE force, you do, which makes you offensive minded.
You can't have it both ways. Either you are against something or not. I don't support discrimination so I WON'T defend it. You do
 

londonfog

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No my way of thinking facilitates peace. If we honor another person and their justly acquired property and they do the same, where is the conflict ? YOU are the one that is ready to make others do YOUR bidding using threats, not me.
Get ovet it and make me a sandwich please. wheat bread light mayo with spicy mustard....wheres the tip jar kind sir.
 

Rob Roy

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You can't have it both ways. Either you are against something or not. I don't support discrimination so I WON'T defend it. You do
Okay, I'm against making people use their things in ways they prefer not to and using threats against them. How about you, are you against those things too ?
 

ginwilly

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If you can't ask Rob Roy that one question...you and I have no conversation. You wasting your time. Im now not even bothering to read what you type. This is the message you will receive going forward.
How many times does it have to be answered? Does he have to give the answer you've already assumed before you stop needing it explained to you? OK then, yes, it's all about whitey keeping the brother down, is that what you what to hear? You've made it painfully obvious to all of us that's how you feel. If
You can't have it both ways. Either you are against something or not. I don't support discrimination so I WON'T defend it. You do
I would never have an abortion but support your right to one. Even though I disagree with abortion in principle, I believe people own their own bodies. That's also the same issue I have with forced coverage. Consistent...

wtf london? You've gone off the deep end trying to fit RR in your box.
 

Rob Roy

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Get ovet it and make me a sandwich please. wheat bread light mayo with spicy mustard....wheres the tip jar kind sir.
I'm sorry we're closed, we don't serve people that want to initiate aggression against others or their justly acquired property, maybe try the Wendy's down the street, but hold your nose, there may be a broken sewer line or something.
 

londonfog

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I'm sorry we're closed, we don't serve people that want to initiate aggression against others or their justly acquired property, maybe try the Wendy's down the street, but hold your nose, there may be a broken sewer line or something.
Sir might I suggest that you open this business as a PRIVATE CLUB. It might fit your view to discriminate
 

Rob Roy

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Sir might I suggest that you open this business as a PRIVATE CLUB. It might fit your view to discriminate

Might I suggest you reflect upon your hypocrisy and realize that forcing people to associate is just as bad as forcefully preventing people that wish to associate from doing the same.

You clearly have no idea what of what a property right is and how to honor other peoples reciprocal right of self ownership.

You've made an abysmal Uncle Buck like straw man argument and wailed away at a phantom....now don't you feel just a little sheepish?
 

londonfog

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Might I suggest you reflect upon your hypocrisy and realize that forcing people to associate is just as bad as forcefully preventing people that wish to associate from doing the same.

You clearly have no idea what of what a property right is and how to honor other peoples reciprocal right of self ownership.

You've made an abysmal Uncle Buck like straw man argument and wailed away at a phantom....now don't you feel just a little sheepish?
Civil rights trump property rights...again your side lost that argument.
 

Rob Roy

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I'm not forcing you. You made that decision when you open a business that serves the public...damn we going in circle :wall:

PRIVATE CLUBbongsmilie

You assume that the concept of property ownership can be altered by the coercive nanny state, that's where your train jumps the track. You assume that the nanny state can possess rights, alter rights and redistribute them as privilege.

I'm sorry that some of the concepts I present go over your head.


How about telling me why you think it is okay to make somebody serve you by using their property and their body by threatening them. Can you do that?
 

Rob Roy

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You can't have it both ways. Either you are against something or not. I don't support discrimination so I WON'T defend it. You do
Who owns you? Who owns your property ? Who should decide how you will conduct yourself on your own property ?

These are the things you run from. Run London, run, the cognitive dissonance monster is after you and wants to steal your fucking sandwich.
 

Rob Roy

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I'm not forcing you. You made that decision when you open a business that serves the public...damn we going in circle :wall:

PRIVATE CLUBbongsmilie

So in order for a person to own themself or determine the peaceful use of their own property they must first acquire permission to do so? I think you are the one going around in a circle Mr. Dizzy Dean.

You see, "ownership" implies you get to decide, not others get to decide for you. I support freedom, you support controlling other peoples property for them, against their will and with threats of violence for non compliance with your violent edicts.
 
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