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ThickStemz said:
You're probably right. But I think paying them 5k or so to give up the ability to reproduce is not enough and would me immoral.

Maybe 5k (double tax refund) for a reversible birth control measure. Like implanting something.

But a perminant procedure is worth more than 5k.
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perm-a-n-e-nt.. Learned that in 3rd grade spelling.. No more acting like you're so damn intelligent..

Silver spoon doesn't always = brains.
 
spandy said:
I feel for the children, they have no say or means of providing for themselves. Its the adults we need to cut off and fund a meat wagon for.

It needs to go as far as controlling what foods ebt is used for, among other things. Its not for fun, it should be for healthy survival. Do you think adults would be selling EBT credits for cash when all you could buy is the essentials needed for a healthy diet? No one is going to trade dope for grain. This way the kids are taken care of in a healthy fashion (no boxed processed garbage and soda drinks for their lazy parents to throw at them) and it takes the potential "benefits" of qualifying for assistance away and turns it into what it should be, a healthy survival.
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I am not saying the children should not be taken care of. We have a handful of layers of government. I am saying the federal government needs to get out of these programs. Send the money to the states. Why do people take for granted the federal government is better at dealing with all of this stuff?
 
CrocodileStunter said:
poors should only eat grains. I guess they can go grind it down at the neighbor hood mill if they want flour. lulz
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Wife and I grind our own, whats wrong with that? We can the shit out of everything we can get our hands on, too.

I can't remember the last time we bought flour.
 
spandy said:
If it makes you feel better, you can totally assume this. Have a great day.
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assume? you're the one said your family can't compete against the poors. lmao you're weak. between my wife and I we are paying somewhere in the ball park of 500 dollars a week in taxes. But then again we are ballers who came out of poverty and can thrive in any system thrown at us. You're complaining like a little bitch.
 
NLXSK1 said:
I am not saying the children should not be taken care of. We have a handful of layers of government. I am saying the federal government needs to get out of these programs. Send the money to the states. Why do people take for granted the federal government is better at dealing with all of this stuff?
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I agree. I didn't realize we were talking about the feds running the program.
 
spandy said:
I agree. I didn't realize we were talking about the feds running the program.
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I am not an anarchist. We need government at some level, just not at the federal level. Nobody I know wants to see kids starve. It is the frustration at the government waste and bureacracy that is the issue. Everyone knows that EBT cards can be sold for cash at 1/2 to 1/3rd value.

People lie about their income so they qualify for maximum benefits, sell the EBT cards for cash and work for cash under the table. That is the kind of shit we need to eliminate. However, it wont happen from the top down.

The reality is that more jobs are needed, that is the only thing that will change the situation for good. What again I am frustrated about is that the producers in this country are under assault every day, maligned and envied and on the other hand the demand for subsidies for the poor has never been louder. Why be a producer and evil when you can just sit back and be a consumer?? The trend is in the wrong direction.

Hillary wont fix it, she cant fix it, she is part of it's design.
 
NLXSK1 said:
The reality is that more jobs are needed, that is the only thing that will change the situation for good. What again I am frustrated about is that the producers in this country are under assault every day, maligned and envied and on the other hand the demand for subsidies for the poor has never been louder. Why be a producer and evil when you can just sit back and be a consumer?? The trend is in the wrong direction.
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this just shows how broke you are and how failed your business is. You question why you should work and not take the 400-600 dollars in benefits per month. Ok you're a poor and you also need an @ home chemical castration kit sent your way.
 
spandy said:
I feel for the children, they have no say or means of providing for themselves. Its the adults we need to cut off and fund a meat wagon for.

It needs to go as far as controlling what foods ebt is used for, among other things. Its not for fun, it should be for healthy survival. Do you think adults would be selling EBT credits for cash when all you could buy is the essentials needed for a healthy diet? No one is going to trade dope for grain. This way the kids are taken care of in a healthy fashion (no boxed processed garbage and soda drinks for their lazy parents to throw at them) and it takes the potential "benefits" of qualifying for assistance away and turns it into what it should be, a healthy survival.
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Are you really so ignorant as to believe people who buy/use food stamps only buy "processed garbage and soda"? Whenever I've been at the store and someone offers to sell me some stamps I'm always heading straight to the organic/health section personally lol. The real problem are "food deserts" where people have to use their stamps at corner stores charging $5 a gal of milk and healthier options may not be offered.. There are urban places where the nearest "grocery" store may be 4-5 miles and while I haven't personally had to ride a bus with my kids and bags of groceries, I always empathize with those who do.

The actual percentage of people who sell their stamps has actually been shown to be quite low btw. I'm all with you that people should try to eat healthy, but who the hell am I to tell somebody that they can't enjoy a coke at the end of their day.

I'll finish by saying there are plenty of people not on food stamps who eat a lot of processed garbage and sodas also. Perhaps we should just start banning sodas?
 
CrocodileStunter said:
Oh what a bleeding heart liberal you've turned into. The tables are turning.
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I have never been a classist so no change there.

You declare you are a bleeding heart and then sneer at anyone you decide is beneath you. I look at a landscaping crew and think, cool, people at work. Hard work too!!

That is the difference between you and me and why I am not a liberal.
 
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