I need help, I'm debating if I wanna quit growing, I keep getting hermi issues

SpideyManDan

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Im not going to read through all four pages, but after just reading the first i think you got your answer. Its the seeds. Hermies are caused by genetics and not by some stressor that people tend to think. Stress may cause it to herm, but if it doesnt already have the genetics to do so, it wont happen.
 

Callz

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Didn't load at the time I had posted. Plants look small for their pots based on trunk size. What size are those pots?

I don't know soil but I'd think healthy plants would be larger. At least in my experience they are.
they are not that old only 7 to 9 weeks sense germination, this strain is known to stretch and get big so i made sure to evenly top em and give em enough soil to grow into it. at first i dont water till run off but once i have to feed em every 4 to 3 days once the soil dries quicker ill start watering till run off. could it be from unsterile cutting when lolloping them maybe?

oh they're 7 gallon nursery, idk what that is in fluid gallons. i was using 10 gallon nursery, didnt get a single hermi when using em but 10 seemd like a waste of soil
 
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Callz

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Im not going to read through all four pages, but after just reading the first i think you got your answer. Its the seeds. Hermies are caused by genetics and not by some stressor that people tend to think. Stress may cause it to herm, but if it doesnt already have the genetics to do so, it wont happen.
totally understandable just key points and info on my grow. maybe but thats so many fuckin breeders all fucking up that im slowly leaning on it being my fault. the worst nanner issue ive had was from a punch pine berry that was custom from a buddy of mine far away. i waited till lights out to dirve home 4 hours with cuttings and i waited 3 weeks to flower to make sure there was as least stress as possible. they looked perfect and then poof one week into flower they started to throw out nanners. none of the issues happen in veg only flower so im so damn confused
 

twentyeight.threefive

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totally understandable just key points and info on my grow. maybe but thats so many fuckin breeders all fucking up that im slowly leaning on it being my fault. the worst nanner issue ive had was from a punch pine berry that was custom from a buddy of mine far away. i waited till lights out to dirve home 4 hours with cuttings and i waited 3 weeks to flower to make sure there was as least stress as possible. they looked perfect and then poof one week into flower they started to throw out nanners. none of the issues happen in veg only flower so im so damn confused
Consider what they are eating. I don't know you're nutrients but perhaps they aren't balanced for flower.
 

Callz

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Consider what they are eating. I don't know you're nutrients but perhaps they aren't balanced for flower.
its organic big bloom from fox farms, microbial from them too, low calmag when needed, and some terpinator at the end for some more resin production ( if i ever f**kin get there with out an issue) and 500 to 600 ppm on my blue labs tester

i just feed microbial for the nitrogen during stretch of flower and big bloom for the PK side of things, i try to keep it organic for the flavor side ( ik it doesn't matter much) but if its better for me i try to go for it
 

SpideyManDan

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Considering every tom, dick and harry is "breeding" these days, I wouldnt be surprised if there was a lot of genetics out there that are really stable.

Are you adding any extra stuff that could be known to cause a plant to hermie? Im familiar with CS to induce pollen, but i am not familiar with any regular nutrient that should do that. What are you adding to the plant when you were growing, or are growing currently.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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Considering every tom, dick and harry is "breeding" these days, I wouldnt be surprised if there was a lot of genetics out there that are really stable.

Are you adding any extra stuff that could be known to cause a plant to hermie? Im familiar with CS to induce pollen, but i am not familiar with any regular nutrient that should do that. What are you adding to the plant when you were growing, or are growing currently.
Read the post immediately before yours. He just wrote out what they are fed.
 

mudballs

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Spideyman has made a point, it takes a either a real hard knock to trigger hermie, or it's already in the genetics and the breeder didnt eliminate it. Multiple tents..multiple strains, i assume different breeders...it's gotta be environment or genetics...its not feed or grow method....are your timers accurate? Is it possible they flick on at 2am or something?
 

Callz

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Read the post immediately before yours. He just wrote out what they are fed.
Thanks! Yeah i heard it doesn't take much but I'm not getting deficiencies and I'm told you should only feed what they need so that should be fine? I wish I knew more on what exactly I should be doing differently
 

Rebel71

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So I'm not sure why this keeps happening to me but today I found my lemon og has nanners over alot of buds, i just chopped her down shes 3 weeks into flower. Im using fox farms ocean forest, 6.5 ph, minimal nutrients (never above 500ppm), with mars hydro lights. the temps never go above 80, i got a par meter and the lights arent above 800 uolm and there is no light leaks. so can some one explain why this is happening to me and how i can prevent it before i chop up all my plants that prolly got pollinated? this is the 3rd grow in a row that ive chopped and im about done.
To me man it sounds like it’s the seeds I just had the same thing happened to me with fucking animal Mintz from a seed of last years sic fk n harvest. I love that fucking strain but two weeks in the flowering that fucker produced sacks. Cut it out to trash it. So I do not use any seeds of any sort anymore unless I know personally that their feminized seeds. From seed shops!
 

Callz

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Spideyman has made a point, it takes a either a real hard knock to trigger hermie, or it's already in the genetics and the breeder didnt eliminate it. Multiple tents..multiple strains, i assume different breeders...it's gotta be environment or genetics...its not feed or grow method....are your timers accurate? Is it possible they flick on at 2am or something?
yup different breeders almost every time but they are only the well known ones i use "in house genetics", barneys, DNA genetics, and R-keim cuz i love those guys. no off brand website genetics from an unknown breeder! Ill check but they are full 12/12 and they aren't getting burned by the light, they look amazing, it just randomly happens. I have a par meter and its never hitting above 800 uolms on the tops so it cant be light radiation, and temps are never above 80 so like wtf lol i must be cursed
 

Rebel71

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There's no lights on any power strips so its not that, the vent is sealed on the inside and on the outside to make sure no light is getting in, and the door is completely sealed with foam inserts in the frames and a door seal at the bottom. Idk mane i just wanna get baked till i forget that i even grow at this point. shit got me more depressed than i ever have been. I wish I didn't live in the middle of no where and could get clones and bud like everyone else but there's nothing for hours of driving in any direction
I hope this helps brother I’m from the backwoods of Oklahoma so I know exactly what you’re talking about all we had was skunk bud. Anyhow try 420seeds. Com fast delivery My friend is growing banana mango and Girl Scout cookies and wedding cake Gorilla Bomb there’s another one I just can’t remember and they’re doing pretty good there about 7”/ 8”inches tall I believe check them out before you call it quits Don’t go out like that man
 

SpideyManDan

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My understanding of hermaphroditism is that it is a genetic predisposition, in times of stress as a way to make sure it can produce offspring for the next generation. Its purely a survival technique that the plant as adopted.
 

Callz

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To me man it sounds like it’s the seeds I just had the same thing happened to me with fucking animal Mintz from a seed of last years sic fk n harvest. I love that fucking strain but two weeks in the flowering that fucker produced sacks. Cut it out to trash it. So I do not use any seeds of any sort anymore unless I know personally that their feminized seeds. From seed shops!
Same here! I only get fems because i dont have the grow room to weed out all the males. I get cuttings from a buddy here and there but its a hassle (rather wait a month to get gens from the attitude) i make temporary mothers and try to keep the stable ones going
 

Callz

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I hope this helps brother I’m from the backwoods of Oklahoma so I know exactly what you’re talking about all we had was skunk bud. Anyhow try 420seeds. Com fast delivery My friend is growing banana mango and Girl Scout cookies and wedding cake Gorilla Bomb there’s another one I just can’t remember and they’re doing pretty good there about 7”/ 8”inches tall I believe check them out before you call it quits Don’t go out like that man
nah i wont, i can always get seeds from the attitude no matter how far away everything is from me, really sad my areas mostly old republicans that want to retire in a weed free zone with no dispensaries but hey at least i can do what im doing and not get bothered by anyone
 

Callz

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My understanding of hermaphroditism is that it is a genetic predisposition, in times of stress as a way to make sure it can produce offspring for the next generation. Its purely a survival technique that the plant as adopted.
yup it is and who ever left that shit in a genetic pool should be shot lol its should be as illegal as incest lol
 
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