TheOrganic
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Damn! I wish my threads had all these exp growers helping me when I started.
I need a more precise guideline for watering than "feel the weight, duderino".
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tip top toker
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Why did you ask the question in the first place if you don't perceive us to be trustworthy?
Sunbiz1
Well-Known Member
And then OP ignores the best advice given, advanced trolling at its' finest.
bombastic1337
Member
I only meant out from this thread, not from the community. I will keep posting my questions and learning from what I find it's useful information. And I will keep reading books and these forums and try to interfere a combined answer to what is right for me. I will also keep making respectful nice threads (as this one was originally) and next time I will just disregard disrespectful answers (not that yours was, cause it was not)
Superman44108
Active Member
dude i was gonna post a little bit of my knowledge to try to help you out but it seems to me that everyone that is experienced who answers you with a way to do it, you just bash their answer and talk trash. my 4 yr old nephew knows when to water a plant. it aint rocket science. next time you have a problem and want some advice, just look it up yourself and dont post it here. apparently nobody here has advice thats good enough. so to everyone else happy growing and stay smokey 
Sailor Jerry
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weigh the soil when its dry before you add the seeding. add water until you get a reasonable amount of run off, then weigh again.
now you pick up the pot and when it feels close to the weight of the dry pot, add some water. If its too heavy, let it go a day or two before you water again.
now you pick up the pot and when it feels close to the weight of the dry pot, add some water. If its too heavy, let it go a day or two before you water again.
john McIntosh
Member
can anyone tell me how much water to start my seed off with in 10L pots ???
lime73
Weed Modifier
are you germinating first or straight in soil? there is great video's of starting seeds in my link....just click here...https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/499298-grow-videos.html
john McIntosh
Member
there germinated and planted i put 2L of water in the pots is that ok ? what video should i watch ?
lime73
Weed Modifier
....post# 20 and 24
then any you like after
that's too much will take forever for soil to dry
Sunbiz1
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Those pots are too large for seedlings. It isn't so much that new growers are over watering as much as choosing the wrong containers. This is why I step up sizes and transplant often, I begin as per included pic and then transplant after about 2 weeks. Some use party cups instead, and get themselves into trouble by not providing enough drainage.
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Ganjasseur
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Cant believe I just read this whole thing Thinking I would help! Plenty of, Accurate, Scientific and reliable knowledge was given here and you sir have kinda acted like a dick! If you were not so dam stubborn you could have saved yourself and everyone else from this thread by searching the site and reading ALL of the responses to the watering questions posted here. If you would have done this you would see that your questions have been answered several times in other threads all with the same ACCURATE and RELIABLE advice that you argue here. I have read this and many other forums for months/years before ever posting any questions. Why? because I found most questions I have or have had have been answered.
The best scientifically accurate advice I can give, Get your nose outta the books and of the forums and into your plants. They will tell you all you need to know Learn to listen to them unlike your lack of such skills here.
Books and advice are great guidelines. That being said each grow is unique and no book or forum can tell YOU how to do YOUR BEST, only there best!
Keep at it man nothing will replace a few cycles under your belt.
Remember, it is a weed DUDEIRINO! The science is there for sure but don't take it so far.
The best scientifically accurate advice I can give, Get your nose outta the books and of the forums and into your plants. They will tell you all you need to know Learn to listen to them unlike your lack of such skills here.
Books and advice are great guidelines. That being said each grow is unique and no book or forum can tell YOU how to do YOUR BEST, only there best!
Keep at it man nothing will replace a few cycles under your belt.
Remember, it is a weed DUDEIRINO! The science is there for sure but don't take it so far.
Sunbiz1
Well-Known Member
Just noticed you're doing heri(plant on the left in my pic is from Sannie)as well, who is the breeder?. I'm curious b/c I just posted a thread on it under indoor based upon breeder lighting recommendations.
Ganjasseur
Member
What up SunBiz! Not sure of the breeder all the plants I have now I got from clone from a couple good and reliable friends so I'm sure the Genetics were good to start. Cant wait to Smoke report that Heri! gonna be a while though.. as I'm raising here to Mom. I'll check out your thread.
mysunnyboy
Well-Known Member
something odd
I found this yesterday, when trying to learn more about this stuff:
"Moisture meters take most of the guesswork out of irrigating. They can be purchased for less than $30 and are well worth the money. The meter measures exactly how much water the soil contains at any level or point. Often the soil will not hold the water evenly, and it develops dry pockets. Checking the moisture with a finger provides an educated guess but disturbs the root system. A moisture meter will give an exact moisture reading without disturbing the roots."
Source: The Indoor-Outdoor Medical Grower's Bible by Jorge Cervantes, page 265.
I just wanted this, to be able to take out the guesswork and use an exact method. For that I was called pompous, an ass and that I was just wrong, that it was not that simple. I was even advised to forget about growing. And Jorge Cervantes RECOMMENDS this method.
I want all those people to tell me now that me that Jorge Cervantes, the father of marijuana growing books, is also wrong... How does this information make you look now?
I would like to to reference all those people who either treated me like shit for wanting to be precise in my work or encouraged me to forget about finding a precise method. Thanks to all of you for your worthless contributions.
Jorge Cervantes has more experience than all of you and he agrees this is a good method. So instead of advising me to stop growing, you should start reading the good books.
I knew I was right. I knew serious growers would have also an exact method even if they don't need to use it anymore.
Thanks to you too for not being able to give me a precise answer and for trying me to quit growing. You are a very well informed and nice person.
I listened to you and started reading. And Jorge Cervantes gave me the precise answer I wanted. Now who looks like an ...? I know who.
It seems like you instantly CAN know when it is the right time to weather... Withouth any experience!
As I told you at that time I'd rather give up on you and your imprecise information
I didn't want to be right, I just wanted for someone to give me ANY method that would be exact and did not require experience. It existed and not only you were not able to provide it for me but also you mocked me. That's just lame.
2 litres odd in one pot are easy to weigh, but with 2 litres I water my 7 seedlings, so that makes it much less weight per pot (28 cl per pot) and it is difficult for a first time grower to distinguish it. That is why there are thousands of watering problems for newbies in the forums. You should have known that a lot of people have problems with it if you are all the time in this forum. You should have known that the humidity meter was a precise method that worked even for beginners. And you should have manners if you are an experienced grower. And you showed none of this.
This thread was not stupid and it seems that watering can be an exact science. But if you know better than Jorge Cervantes, let me know. I will email him so he can use your knowledge in his next book release...
According to Jorge Cervantes:
Yes, a meter can tell you when to water.
No, you don't need experience, trail and error. You just need a $20 meter.
I don't know if gauges don't work for everything, but they work for this.
I would also like to thank the people that truly helped me nicely and with precise information, unlike others. These are cowell, stonerman, VanishingToaster, cannabineer and chickengutz. Thanks for being helpful and for replying nicely.
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Van Patten (as Jorge Cervantes) first published the book Indoor Marijuana Horticulture in 1983. That first edition was 96 pages, bound by staples, and printed in black and white. Now in its fifth edition, with 512 full-color pages and 1120 full-color photographs and illustrations.[SUP][3][/SUP] Marijuana Horticulture sold over 600,000 copies printed in Dutch, English, French and German. Marijuana Horticulture has just been released in Spanish, Italian, and in Russian. The book's credits list more than three hundred contributors including Rob Clarke and Ed Rosenthal.
Jorge's most sold book is the "Marijuana horticulture - the indoor/outdoor medical grower's Bible". With 512 full-color pages and 1120 full-color photographs and illustrations, Marijuana Horticulture: The Indoor/Outdoor Medical Grower's Bible is the most complete cultivation book available. The Fifth Edition of the former Indoor Marijuana Horticulture: The Indoor Bible was originally published in 1983, when it immediately became a best-seller. More than 500,000 copies of The Indoor Bible are in print in Dutch, English, French, German, and Spanish.
Sunbiz1
Well-Known Member
Let me get this straight, the OP was reading the book and then using it to ask questions?...WTF.
Also, I just noticed your sig. That poster tried to convince me to plant freshly cracked beans in 5 gals.
sweetswisher
Active Member
To whoever started this thread, If your having this much trouble figuring out when to water your plants, your going to have even more retarded questions as your grow progresses, you should just give up.
tip top toker
Well-Known Member
There is absolutely nothing wrong with planting seeds into a 5 gallon pot. It changes the style in which you tend to it, but little more, they will grow just fine.