Hydro - How many days you FLUSH for ??

ficklejester

ficklejester

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Flushing is not leeching.

Flushing allows the plants to use up all available nutes and not absorb anymore. If they absorb more than they need, they are retained in the plants after harvest.

I associate the term leeching with flushing out soil- dissolving the nutrient solids since a lot of them are 'slow-release' and are too concentrated for cannabis. Alternatively, making your own soil allows you to control exactly what goes into it and, ultimately, what the plant receives.
 
polo the don

polo the don

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Yodaweed said:
You guys must be the end all of growing knowledge let me just go against everything I have learned from the dispensaries (which do not like to flush but do to increase quality) , grow shops, and personal experience. Smoking blunts eh? That sounds sad must have some shitty weed trying to cover up that dirt taste :(
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Oh no Sir. I smoke blunts because that's how I like to smoke. Just an old Southern smoker.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Yodaweed said:
You guys must be the end all of growing knowledge let me just go against everything I have learned from the dispensaries (which do not like to flush but do to increase quality) , grow shops, and personal experience. Smoking blunts eh? That sounds sad must have some shitty weed trying to cover up that dirt taste :(
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Right. Dirt taste from my RDWC.

Keep digging, tiger...
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Yodaweed said:
And if you say use less nutes that's just holding your plants back if your plant can handle 1600ppm during flowering why cut it down to 400ppm so you don't have to flush. That will just decrease growth rates and yield.
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I was pretty clear that my EC goes down at the same time as CO² levels and RH, in line with one another. My plants don't burn and they don't starve- and they taste great!
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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I don't understand what all the fuss is about.
According to tty it takes 20 weeks to grow a plant to finish using this method.
With a yield of less than a 1/2 pound finished (per plant) this is a huge waste of resource with little gain.
I can grow 4 times the pot in the same space at an 1/8 of the power consumption.
Where is the benefit here? Taste? Buzz? Sure ain't profit!
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My first crack at this, with lots of warts, was as you say- yet, it pointed the way forward. The current batch is much more representative of the approach and they're living up to its potential a lot better.

I'm not sure how you're doing your math for power consumption, time, or yield. Since they're numbers with no explanation, it sounds to me like you're not real clear on my process but you're happy to make snap judgements.

If time is of the essence, this isn't your op. I'm not building it for that customer, however.

A dispensary or warehouse certainly has the resources to run a stable operation with multiple stages; indeed, it's how things are done already. This kind of batch process is necessary, desirable and efficient. It is only news to a basement grower.

While there are several veg stages, all of them put together add up to less than one bloom room in terms of power consumption- and the potential return per square foot is far greater than harvesting on any flat surface, be it a ScrOG under lights or on the floor.

If you have specific questions, I'll be happy to answer them. I won't respond to anything else.

I'm sorry you choose your very first post to be this negative.
 
polo the don

polo the don

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Yodaweed said:
That's cool but blunts are a new thing when I was younger I remember when dutchmasters came out then the vanilla dutch and green leaf then cognac and blunt wraps followed etc...
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Yea no flavored cigars here. I been smoking plain swishers for 20+ years. All we had around here was mexi/brick till the 90s. That's where the blunt smoking comes from for me.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Yodaweed said:
I was just reading your post and you even said that you are on your first hydro grow....why do you keep coming at someone that has way more experience?
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Check the date. I've had wet feet for years now. Or, reread the thread for context, as I'm constantly changing and updating things.

And of course it's clear I'm an idiot, just because you said so.

Here's a picture of a worthless piece of CRAP- I mean, it only came to forty zips;

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But, you got me- time to 'fess up;
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hydroMD

hydroMD

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ttystikk said:
Check the date. I've had wet feet for years now. Or, reread the thread for context, as I'm constantly changing and updating things.

And of course it's clear I'm an idiot, just because you said so.

Here's a picture of a worthless piece of CRAP- I mean, it only came to forty zips;

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But, you got me- time to 'fess up;
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Look sweet. You got a step by step journal anywhere? Id like to see your process
 
hydroMD

hydroMD

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I like splitting big bushes down the middle and running both sides verticle.. similar.


When amd how do you start integrating tue trellis?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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hydroMD said:
I like splitting big bushes down the middle and running both sides verticle.. similar.


When amd how do you start integrating tue trellis?
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They need to be a couple feet tall first, usually six weeks to get the right structure before they hit the trellis.
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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ttystikk said:
Check the date. I've had wet feet for years now. Or, reread the thread for context, as I'm constantly changing and updating things.

And of course it's clear I'm an idiot, just because you said so.

Here's a picture of a worthless piece of CRAP- I mean, it only came to forty zips;

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But, you got me- time to 'fess up;
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I never called you any names....so touchy man go smoke a bowl
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Yodaweed said:
I never called you any names....so touchy man go smoke a bowl
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Worse, you called me a beginner without reading dates, and then said that because I was a noob I didn't have a right to an opinion.

That's zero for two in one post.
 
ayr0n

ayr0n

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Yodaweed said:
You guys must be the end all of growing knowledge let me just go against everything I have learned from the dispensaries (which do not like to flush but do to increase quality) , grow shops, and personal experience. Smoking blunts eh? That sounds sad must have some shitty weed trying to cover up that dirt taste :(
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Yodaweed said:
I'm sorry you choose your very first post to be this negative.
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Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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Your telling people to not flush when you are clearly mistaken about that read this article then you will have some education on why you need to flush http://www.marijuanafertilizers.com/harvesting-curing-drying-marijuana-flowers-buds-plants.html

It is advised that you stop using your cannabis flowering fertilizer 2 weeks before harvest time to ensure that all chemicals are out of the plant. If chemicals are in the plant when you harvest, the smoke will be very harsh. To prevent harshness, flush the plants heavily with fresh water 2 weeks prior to harvesting them. Ensure you flush at least 3 times the capacity of your pot. So a 4 gallon pot would be flushed with 16 gallons of fresh water. From that point water your plants with pure water, absolutely NO additives should be given to the plant. This is especially important if you have been using chemical fertilizers.

This is the time when the bulk of the final, "usable" part of the plant is produced. As you may well already know, there are over four hundred separate chemicals associated with cannabis and her effects. It is during the final bud-building stage that most of these chemicals are produced. Thus, it is very important to give the plant as much pure water as possible during this crucial period. I like to remember it as the "rinse" and "flush" cycle. Simply remember to give the plants only water for the last two to three weeks in order to rinse and flush them clean. This is to purge unwanted impurities from the plant.

Pot that has been fertilized right up to harvest is harsh to smoke, sometimes the joint will even sizzle and pop as unmetabolized fertilizer salts combust. Unflushed pot leaves black ash, is hard to keep lit and burns your throat. Pot which has been organically grown and properly flushed is more flavorful and fragrant, burns easily, leaves grey ash, is easier on the throat and is much more pleasurable to smoke.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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That last one was him quoting my old post from another thread, speaking to someone else. Who was indeed being pretty much a Patty Pessimist...
 
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