How To Spot A Liberal....

pinkus

New Member
You are at a cocktail party and you meet someone new. Of course the convo leads all over, but in the end politics will be discussed.

So is the person you are talking to a Liberal, or not? Now in these changing days of events and topics, it can be difficult to spot them right off. Like flotsam and jetsom, liberals have no true base of principles and tend to drift from week to week, so this has an expiration date on it, but right now...if in conversation you hear anyone utter any of these things with actual seriousness...you know they are Liberal.

1.) That a government-run "public option" health insurance would not extinguish or even harm private insurance.

2.) That cap-and-trade carbon regulations will raise energy costs without injuring the economy

3.) That taxing Peter to subsidize Paul's purchase of a new car is a sound basis for economic growth

4.) That an 85% unspent stimulus has routed the recession.


Any or all of these are a tip off that the person you are talking to has been sipping the kool aid. Do not try and change them!! This will only enrage and confuse them (yes they are easily confused).

Smile and make your way to the saner part of the party.
you are a troll in elite clothing...egotistical BS. the economy is broken...i'm not even a liberal. what do you think is constructive in this post CJ? :wall: no escaping it...you're trolling. this whole i'm smarter than you shit is sooooooo fucking tired. WHO CARES...if you are a mensa member like you pretend to be, why don't you go circle jerk with them since you seem to disdain the humble humans below you. I'm HIGH average...but i'd rather be a faithful friend idiot than a smartie that presents himself like you.

if you want to be civil i'm down for it. :bigjoint:
 

jrh72582

Well-Known Member
you are a troll in elite clothing...egotistical BS. the economy is broken...i'm not even a liberal. what do you think is constructive in this post CJ? :wall: no escaping it...you're trolling. this whole i'm smarter than you shit is sooooooo fucking tired. WHO CARES...if you are a mensa member like you pretend to be, why don't you go circle jerk with them since you seem to disdain the humble humans below you. I'm HIGH average...but i'd rather be a faithful friend idiot than a smartie that presents himself like you.

if you want to be civil i'm down for it. :bigjoint:
Yep. But everyone here knows this. His ethos is destroyed and he's NOT a MENSA member. Don't worry about venting - we all have and he's been exposed.
 

snail240

Well-Known Member
you are a troll in elite clothing...egotistical BS. the economy is broken...i'm not even a liberal. what do you think is constructive in this post CJ? :wall: no escaping it...you're trolling. this whole i'm smarter than you shit is sooooooo fucking tired. WHO CARES...if you are a mensa member like you pretend to be, why don't you go circle jerk with them since you seem to disdain the humble humans below you. I'm HIGH average...but i'd rather be a faithful friend idiot than a smartie that presents himself like you.

if you want to be civil i'm down for it. :bigjoint:
SSSHHH dont say Civil they might get their guns!

He ment lets get high Cracker not civil put the ar15 and super typhoonated mustard gas up.

Last thing we need is these guys getting civil last time they did that they didnt know what it ment and you know where that got us.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Okay, let's clear something up.

OBAMA is a liar. He SAYS he's liberal, but since we all know he's a liar, why do you choose to trust him on that while disregarding every other statement he makes as untrue?

Obama is NOT a liberal. He's a puppet.

Enough with the definitions? YOU'RE the one who keeps trying to define us "liberals".. What? You can dish it out but you can't take it?

So if only "liberals" want to grow the government, then by YOUR definition George Bush is the biggest liberal of all, since under Bush we saw the largest expansion of government since FDR.
Oh just stop. :lol: Obama is a liberal my friend...he's yours. He was the most liberal Senator in Congress before he was elected to office. You need only look at his voting record....perhaps you should.

Well, thanks man.I won't hold the whole "on the right" thing against you.Weird, too, because we do agree on a lot of things, I think the things we disagree on have to do with spending.
That's right Stoney. You and I share common goals and fundamentally agree on most of the social issues. Where we differ is on how BEST to achieve those goals.
 

doobnVA

Well-Known Member
Oh just stop. :lol: Obama is a liberal my friend...he's yours. He was the most liberal Senator in Congress before he was elected to office. You need only look at his voting record....perhaps you should.



That's right Stoney. You and I share common goals and fundamentally agree on most of the social issues. Where we differ is on how BEST to achieve those goals.
I'm looking at his voting record now. I like how you glazed over the fact that he only voted on 66 issues ( out of 99) and out of those 66 he took a liberal stance on 65.

I can tell you I have a 100% closing rate, but if I've only attempted ONE sale in my life - that statistic becomes a lot less impressive, doesn't it?
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
The problem I've found with some of my lberal friends is they fail to recognize that by insisting on certain government programs and interventions they are supporting force and running away from free will, live and let live etc. The government is not supposed to redistribute wealth or dictate your life style or the outcome of your life, they are only suppose to protect everybodies acccess to freedom, period. What you achieve is up to you.

My liberal friends rail on and on about the middle east wars, declaring we have no business there, ( I agree) yet they insist somehow on less liberty here and more and more government intervention in OUR lives, while recognizing our foreign interventions are wrong.

Maybe you can be a liberal that wants a smaller government, but I think it runs opposite to today's definition of the liberal ideology. Holding opposite points of view within the same person about liberty defies consistency and logic...cognitive dissonance.

I'm not much of a Reagan fan, but I think he got one thing right..."when government expands, liberty contracts." Of course he was a big fucking hypocrite on pot. To legislate YOUR morality on MY body, MY property, MY wallet is tyranny, period. People always think they can run somebody elses life, THAT is the problem.

If it makes any liberals feel better, I think many "conservatives" are a bunch of fucking hypocrites too. Live and let live.
 

snail240

Well-Known Member
The problem I've found with some of my lberal friends is they fail to recognize that by insisting on certain government programs and interventions they are supporting force and running away from free will, live and let live etc. The government is not supposed to redistribute wealth or dictate your life style or the outcome of your life, they are only suppose to protect everybodies acccess to freedom, period. What you achieve is up to you.

My liberal friends rail on and on about the middle east wars, declaring we have no business there, ( I agree) yet they insist somehow on less liberty here and more and more government intervention in OUR lives, while recognizing our foreign interventions are wrong.

Maybe you can be a liberal that wants a smaller government, but I think it runs opposite to today's definition of the liberal ideology. Holding opposite points of view within the same person about liberty defies consistency and logic...cognitive dissonance.

I'm not much of a Reagan fan, but I think he got one thing right..."when government expands, liberty contracts." Of course he was a big fucking hypocrite on pot. To legislate YOUR morality on MY body, MY property, MY wallet is tyranny, period. People always think they can run somebody elses life, THAT is the problem.

If it makes any liberals feel better, I think many "conservatives" are a bunch of fucking hypocrites too. Live and let live.
Well you see liberals beleive goverment should care for the well being of ALL not just the rich.

Righties beleive government should exist only when THEY need somthing.

You see its ok if we get health care its not really what they care about they are lieing. They know if they stop obama on health care they can call him a lier other then admitting they stoped healthcare not Obama.

I still dont agree with what obama is doing but he is president and not a liberal he is a conservitive democrate.

He keeps the war on drugs going and a liberal would have pushed for a single payer system.

Obama is just like Bush same exact policys to the mother fuckin T. Only reason these guys like George Bush is because he gave them back assault rifles but in the mean time distroyed our country and took away more "libertys" that you guys are so found of then Obama ever did.

Stop voting for people that lie for a living its quite simple. Vote for your neighbor not the guy on TV telling you everything you WANT to hear and its not even him talking.

Every modern day president has speach wrighters and a god damn teleprompter.

You think these people care about you when they dont even know what to say they have to read it from wrighters that went to harvard?

Think about it I mean damn you guys act like voting for someone else on the podium would have made this different.

Its all planed he Knew he was gonna be president when he was 13 same with George Bush and Bill Clinton.

These guys are raised by the elite from adoption homes given names and tought to be good readers and well spoken speachers.

Hense when Gore won they knew it was over the plan had backfired had to loose ballats if Florida.

Remember Al Gore has his own green scandle he is trying to milk so its not likley he would push for a oil war in the middle east considering THATS his competitions agenda not only for political purposes but for money.

You see if Gore would have won we wouldnt be at war because it wasnt his buisness plan to take over all middle eatern oil. Not his memo he would rather move america green and milk that scam witch I must say seems alot less violent then taking over middle eastern countrys because brown people hijacked an airplane.

I mean not to be an ass but the guilty ones for wrecking the plains into the buildings(if its even real) are the ones that where in the plain and they are dead.

You righties did the same thing to Iraqis that you hate being done to you.

Dont blaim the gun blaim the shooter right? Right?!?!

Hypocrisy!! AGIAN!!

Now im waiting to hear how stupid I am and how uneducated I am now GO!
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
The problem I've found with some of my lberal friends is they fail to recognize that by insisting on certain government programs and interventions they are supporting force and running away from free will, live and let live etc.
And republicans want the freedom to pull off scams for major corporations but think it's the job of the federal government to rule on who is a couple that can get married.

Neither party has a patent on freedom.

Republicans want compete economic freedom and strict social regulations. Democrats want strict economic regulations and complete social freedom.

The government is not supposed to redistribute wealth or dictate your life style or the outcome of your life, they are only suppose to protect everybodies acccess to freedom, period. What you achieve is up to you.
Yet republicans never complain when government redistributes the wealth away from the middle class/poor into the pockets of the rich. For some reason wealth redistribution is only wrong when it's going to the working class. It seems to be perfectly acceptable when it goes to the rich. Why the double standard?

My liberal friends rail on and on about the middle east wars, declaring we have no business there, ( I agree) yet they insist somehow on less liberty here and more and more government intervention in OUR lives, while recognizing our foreign interventions are wrong.
The idea is that your freedom to swing your fist ends at my face. The regulations liberals advocate are generally restrictions on activities that do serious harm to the general population.

For example - credit default swaps. Under a free market system they should be legal, but they are regulated because the trading of them does serious harm to the American people and the economy. Just like your freedom to swing your fist ends at my face, your freedom to profit ends when it comes at the expense of the country. You don't have to agree with that, but understand that it is a consistent opinion.

Maybe you can be a liberal that wants a smaller government, but I think it runs opposite to today's definition of the liberal ideology. Holding opposite points of view within the same person about liberty defies consistency and logic...cognitive dissonance.
"small government" and "big government" are largely bullshit terms. I don't care about either of those things. I want an effective and efficient government. Republicans and democrats simply disagree on what that looks like. Republicans think that means no economic regulations, no social programs, no taxes, increased military and police forces. Democrats think the opposite. Neither party is sincerely for bigger or smaller government. Both just want different styles of government.

I'm not much of a Reagan fan, but I think he got one thing right..."when government expands, liberty contracts."
So if we got rid of all economic regulations and the country was entirely owned by 5 or 6 companies holding monopolies on everything and Americans all had to work for $o.10 an hour living in housing projects, is that true freedom?

Some regulations enhance freedom. Restricting corporations like Enron from scamming us didn't take away are freedom and more than criminal laws take away my freedom to rob you at gun point.

Regardless of whether someone robs you at gun point or does it on wall st with stocks, it's still robbery. I don't believe in the freedom to rob people. It's not freedom to allow the elite to rip off the bottom 95% of Americans.
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
Reguations enhance freedom? Really? How?
Is it really freedom if I am free to rob you at gun point? That might be freedom to me, but it's oppression to you. Same applies to economics. Glass-steagal may have limited the freedom of banks, but it was really limiting their freedom to rob you. When we deregulated the banks, they robbed us. Economic regulations limit the freedom of the ultra wealth for the purpose of enhanced economic freedom of the majority.

Economic regulations may limit the freedom of a small group of people, but they give the rest of us freedom from economic oppression.
 
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