Hold your smoke or exhale, as soon as you finish hitting it? Survey.

If you really want to hold it in maybe you should look at a dry herb vape. The bad stuff that clogs your lungs isn't there if the temp is set right.

Now, the COPD risk is reduced and even I hold it for 10-15 seconds.

I actually just picked one up for that reason (S&B Plenty). All I really ever hit nowadays are my bubbler and dry herb vape for flower, and mini bong/dynavap rig combo for bubble hash. I’m trying to be nicer to my body now that I’m officially getting old

MissinThe90’sStrains said:

I actually just picked one up for that reason (S&B Plenty). All I really ever hit nowadays are my bubbler and dry herb vape for flower, and mini bong/dynavap rig combo for bubble hash. I’m trying to be nicer to my body now that I’m officially getting old

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My vape is loaned out to a friend. The guy can hardly breath but still smokes cigarettes. We thought if he had a dry herb vape he could use it to help with other problems. He wanted to try joints, but I discouraged that.

I remember smoking out with Subcool at a cannabis cup and he didn't hold in his smoke either. I just thought it was because of his lung issues. This was back in 2014. Back then everyone held it in.

VaSmile said:

Bro science. Dose holding your breath help you absorb more O when you breath? No it dose not! Thc is absorbed into the bloodstream almost instantly once its in the lungs. Why do you feel higher when you do this? Oxygen deperation, not more thc absorbed

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Fighter jet pilots have to make pressure to the lungs to be able to breath soo that would mean you can force more of it if you squiz your muscles

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Fighter jet pilots have to make pressure to the lungs to be able to breath soo that would mean you can force more of it if you squiz your muscles

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Actually what fighter pilots are doing is keeping the blood in the brain via a modified valsalva maneuver.

curious2garden said:

Ok you only need to hold it in a few seconds for more of the cannabinoids to fall out of the vapor or smoke. There are always some left though. That happens pretty quickly and doesn't require any dwell time for increased parenchymal exposure.

Holding your breath won't hurt you. Too much CO2 and you'll simply pass out. That's why I'd laugh when my toddlers would tell me they'd just hold their breath and wouldn't I be sad ....... never worked. We have a heavy CO2 drive to breath. That changes if you have COPD you're having to use your Oxygen drive to breath but you'll pass out there too and breath assuming your medulla oblongata is still working your breathing will kick back in.

Just a hesitation is all you need.

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We know a head rush is nearly instant, that's my empirical evidence that holding has little value. I'm about to test super short holds... for science!

Any comments on vaping? With no byproducts from combustion, I assume it's much better for the lungs.

1212ham said:

We know a head rush is nearly instant, that's my empirical evidence that holding has little value. I'm about to test super short holds... for science!

Any comments on vaping? With no byproducts from combustion, I assume it's much better for the lungs.

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Its a different high only the heads burn.if you try to smoke it next day you get a weird high feels like it makes you go to sleep...

And a lot easier to smoke but still if i inhale for too long somethimes i cough.but i can say its a lot harder to smoke joints now they feel super harsh.

I smoke it a lot longer than a joint and you get a lot of dry air troath feels dry allways

So anyone try @amneziaHaze 's jet pilot trick on their last

Hold and squeeze for 7 or 8 seconds at least, try not to collapse a lung

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Any comments on vaping? With no byproducts from combustion, I assume it's much better for the lungs.

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I think vaping is better on your lungs too. But healthcare is a real statistics game and we'll only know for sure when actual research is done. I admit I'm looking forward to rescheduling so we can find out the actual answer to many of these questions. So I admit I mostly vape dabs but my secret pleasure is smoking joints. I can't escape how much I enjoy that. So I give in and smoke joints usually on the occasion I'm drinking a nice glass of wine but mostly dabs

I remember reading many years ago that all the active ingredients are absorbed in milliseconds so all holding it in does is allow the smoke to cool and the heavier parts of the smoke like tars, waxes etc to clump together and stay in your lungs rather than be expelled on the exhale.

I haven't smoked joints in ages. Just small hits in a pipe to titrate my doses and even those have gone down to 2 or 3 late in the evening. I was using edibles a lot for my arthritis pain and growing high CBD strains for that. Since focusing more on supplements like salmon oil, MSM/Glucosamine, hemp seed, Omega 3s etc to reduce inflammation I'm not even doing that any more. I spend a bunch of money on all these supplements for that, dealing with prostate/bladder issues and health in general. I could get all sorts of pharmaceuticals prescribed and paid for by my medical but they all come with a host of side effects I don't get by self medicating.

Not sure about the vaping thing. Inhaling vapours of what is basically anti-freeze and other substances doesn't sound like a good idea to me but I plan on using an e-cig I have to help me get off the evil weed, tobacco. I beat the worst of a 40+ year run of chronic depression/PTSD and alcoholism by micro-dosing magic mushrooms over 3 years ago now so it's my last bad habit/addiction that I need to deal with. My right lung has collapsed twice now and that's no fun and can be attributed to mild COPD from over 50 years of smoking both tobacco and large amounts of pot/hash/oils back in my stoner days. I recently started using prescribed dextroamphetamine to deal with the ADHD that has plagued me all my life and it's the only pharma drug I'm currently using. An occasional aspirin for spikes in joint pain is the only OTC drug I use and that's only once or twice a month.

I'm still a big proponent of cannabis use for many things that ail us but thru personal experience and knowing many who overuse feel that chronic use indicates there are underlying issues both physical and mental that in many cases is covered up by it's use. Digging out the roots of these conditions has lead me to countless hours of research in the last 20 odd years that has me on what I think is a healing path for me. Sure wish I'd had the resources, and may I call it wisdom, to start this journey when I was much younger.

I'm still a bit of a mess but in a lot better head space than I can recall being since I was a child and still free of all the crappy concerns that creep into our lives as we age out of innocence. May your path be smoother.

@OldMedUser a dry herb vape doesn’t have any of the antifreeze PG/VG chemicals like a vape cartridge does. A dry herb vape holds weed and uses heat to vape the goodies out of the buds without actually burning the bud and making smoke. It just kinda toasts it bit. Some require a small torch, some are battery powered, and some plug in.

@OldMedUser mine just sends 130C air to the buds and melts the heads nothing more there is no chemicals or combustion

i got one of these, does a good job at the higher settings

Got this last year. Holds a shitload of herb. Haven’t switched completely, but my lungs have thanked me for the efforts so far.

MissinThe90’sStrains said:

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Got this last year. Holds a shitload of herb. Haven’t switched completely, but my lungs have thanked me for the efforts so far.

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i wanted to buy that one but looked kind of unstable on the table? how is it after a few months of use would you reccomend?
when you set the temp to 130C if you smoke for a long time does it go over that number*?

@amnesiahaze I found a separate company that makes 3-D printed stands for the device and adapters for things like whips and bongs. The device itself has a “safety feature” where it pretty much shuts off after 90 seconds of use. Because it plugs in, you can easily fall asleep with it on and it would be a fire hazard, so the heat shuts off. You have to squeeze the trigger to reactivate the heating element, or some people over ride it and just put a zip tie on it to hold the trigger down for the entire session.

Some times I dab twice when often times I forget if I held in the first one well enough I often times am good on the second dab. So yea im surprised to hear it doesnt do anything.

the Issue I also see is many people wanna look cool or think they can get more high by more “hits” vs inhaling it to lungs and exhale. treating it like a cigar and not inhaling it won’t do shit lol

Thought I read somewhere the transfer is instantaneous
The increased "high" is actually oxygen deprivation


There are more technical explanations but this seems to be my speed