H.A.F. growing stink-flowers in dirt with QB's
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I had to get creative
Ended up decarbing 5g of keif. 4.2g afterwards.
figuring 50%THC as a baseline for keif, 500mg/g, or about 2100mg THC.
I filled up the Nova with less than a cup of clarified butter. I wanted it stronger just so it won't take as much for the same effect.
Ended up with 180g of budder - which works out to about 11g THC per gram of budder.
I used a big syringe to fill these (Hershey bar mold),
Rinsed everything with boiling water
the first method was a mess and I should have filled them while already in the fridge. When the water-budder cooled and the budder got solid, the keif stayed on the bottom of the budder, it didn't sink and separate like I thought it would. So I mixed it up and I spread it in a mold with a knife. Much easier to not lose any. Here was the difference.
The Northern Lights is showing some of the effects of the pH pen issue I had early on, but the new growth seems fine. I ordered some of the organic FF Fruit & Flower and will try it out just top-feeding until she's done.
But these are getting a 1/4 feed of the Fox Farms Trio for the duration and we'll see what happens. I sorted the whole mess into the actual NPK nutes and the "other" stuff. The Nutes are what I am dropping to 1/4, the rest probably 1/2.
Ended up decarbing 5g of keif. 4.2g afterwards.figuring 50%THC as a baseline for keif, 500mg/g, or about 2100mg THC.
I filled up the Nova with less than a cup of clarified butter. I wanted it stronger just so it won't take as much for the same effect.
Ended up with 180g of budder - which works out to about 11g THC per gram of budder.
I used a big syringe to fill these (Hershey bar mold),
Rinsed everything with boiling water
then got enough to fill one again with the leftover/bottom stuff.
the first method was a mess and I should have filled them while already in the fridge. When the water-budder cooled and the budder got solid, the keif stayed on the bottom of the budder, it didn't sink and separate like I thought it would. So I mixed it up and I spread it in a mold with a knife. Much easier to not lose any. Here was the difference.
The Northern Lights is showing some of the effects of the pH pen issue I had early on, but the new growth seems fine. I ordered some of the organic FF Fruit & Flower and will try it out just top-feeding until she's done.But these are getting a 1/4 feed of the Fox Farms Trio for the duration and we'll see what happens. I sorted the whole mess into the actual NPK nutes and the "other" stuff. The Nutes are what I am dropping to 1/4, the rest probably 1/2.
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I'm 100% on rooting. The one upper left wasn't showing any, so I peeked before trashing it and she has them, just haven't got past the peat yet. So 10 days from snip to this.
And I don't pull them out to check every day or anything. You can tell because they start drinking. Last night I misted them, and noticed the plugs drying. I strait streamed them to soak them and this morning they were dry and light brown with more leaves yellowing. First one I pulled was the one in the middle with the abundance of roots. So I stuck it back in and got the solo-cups. The soil I used was bone dry, so I misted the tops, misted the splits in the cup sides, then put a little in the bottom of the second opaque cup to keep it humid. It has a clear cup split up the sides, one with the bottom cut out for that to sit in and allow drainage, then a third just regular. The first cup being clear is so I can check root progress.
And I had to jar up the 2 skinny plants that I chopped first. They were dry-ish already and it was going too quick. I put the fan on the lowest speed for the other two. These are vacuum sealed, and the half-gallon jars. I aired them out this morning, then re-vacuumed them. Tonight I'll do it again, but take them out and check the weight and make sure nothing is stuck together. So far I can roll the jars around and they'll loosen up.
And I don't pull them out to check every day or anything. You can tell because they start drinking. Last night I misted them, and noticed the plugs drying. I strait streamed them to soak them and this morning they were dry and light brown with more leaves yellowing. First one I pulled was the one in the middle with the abundance of roots. So I stuck it back in and got the solo-cups. The soil I used was bone dry, so I misted the tops, misted the splits in the cup sides, then put a little in the bottom of the second opaque cup to keep it humid. It has a clear cup split up the sides, one with the bottom cut out for that to sit in and allow drainage, then a third just regular. The first cup being clear is so I can check root progress.
And I had to jar up the 2 skinny plants that I chopped first. They were dry-ish already and it was going too quick. I put the fan on the lowest speed for the other two. These are vacuum sealed, and the half-gallon jars. I aired them out this morning, then re-vacuumed them. Tonight I'll do it again, but take them out and check the weight and make sure nothing is stuck together. So far I can roll the jars around and they'll loosen up.
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Oh, I found that propagator thing here.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HHR5DGN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
$25, but it is solid, not that flimsy crap. It has the extender in the middle, and you can see the plastic bolts holding it together. Definitely worth it, and the last one you'll buy unless you want another one.
If you're new here, I don't push products - but if I find a hidden gem I share it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HHR5DGN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
$25, but it is solid, not that flimsy crap. It has the extender in the middle, and you can see the plastic bolts holding it together. Definitely worth it, and the last one you'll buy unless you want another one.
If you're new here, I don't push products - but if I find a hidden gem I share it.
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Quick update. I weighed both jars, and each gained a little weight. My theory is that they were a little too dry, and the vacuum allowed the Boveda packs to do their thing quicker. So both are c-vaulted up, no stems except for the top cola on each (down to about 3 nugs) 94g. so far.
I am going to test the other to as soon as they seem close. The vacuum thing works both ways, and it can help re-hydrate my Boveda packs
I have some that are over a year old. I was going through a pack in about 2 months when I was buying someone else's weed and the moisture was only going one way.
Once stuff is cured I replace the packs with new ones,
I am going to test the other to as soon as they seem close. The vacuum thing works both ways, and it can help re-hydrate my Boveda packs
I have some that are over a year old. I was going through a pack in about 2 months when I was buying someone else's weed and the moisture was only going one way.Once stuff is cured I replace the packs with new ones,
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Get good seeds, and good lights. I ain't no wizard... But thanksnice looking buds.. all uniform.. mine look like ass and have almost no smell.. kind of hate growing weed
The uniform buds part is just from pruning any potential larf in week 3 of flower.
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Don't get me wrong, these are bountiful crops, but I have it all separated into "primo" and plants that had issues. So of those 4, 1 has weight, but little smell. 2 are average, and one is really loud and is getting saved for bowls.nice looking buds.. all uniform.. mine look like ass and have almost no smell.. kind of hate growing weed
The other three plants I'll pack cones, decarb, etc.So what I have picked up from this sideways grow, and the other plant effected by it, if pH is important enough for you to test it, check your meter every time. High or low and you lock out one nute or another.
The other thing that I had not heard before is that most feeding charts are designed for 1000w of light, and your % of that number is the % you should feed. Don't know if it is fact or not but it makes sense. So I should be at 25%, not 50% feed if that is the case.
But if you have pH issues AND excess nutes in the soil, it just compounds the problem.
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They are under vacuum and have Boveda packs in there. I jarred up the 2 on the left yesterday, and the two on the right this morning. I burped and re-weighed the first two and they had each gained about half a gram. So the weight is final on the GH and DG. I'll check tomorrow on the other two. but for now
GH 51.7g
DG 43.25g
FFT 70.9g
FFG 54.7g.
One reason for the FF Trio weight discrepancy is that the tops grew together better, and there is more stem left because I left more of the tops whole. So it is fatter than the rest, but not by as much as it seems.
GH 51.7g
DG 43.25g
FFT 70.9g
FFG 54.7g.
One reason for the FF Trio weight discrepancy is that the tops grew together better, and there is more stem left because I left more of the tops whole. So it is fatter than the rest, but not by as much as it seems.
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And the big flower clone skunk is 3oz and cured as of today.
With 11-ish ounces of skunk either cured or in the process, I rolled up what was left of my stash,GDP on the left, skunk on the right. The fatty is of the newly cured skunk, and is how I'll spend the rest of my day LOL
I kept the half ounce of GDP for a 'treat' when I need a break from getting skunked. That's also a reason I quick-flipped the hulk and the sky-crawler.
Oh, those are all half-gallon jars, not quarts.
With 11-ish ounces of skunk either cured or in the process, I rolled up what was left of my stash,GDP on the left, skunk on the right. The fatty is of the newly cured skunk, and is how I'll spend the rest of my day LOL
Oh, those are all half-gallon jars, not quarts.
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I cloned the NL out of necessity, since it was from a lone seed - and after finding out it has a better than average CBD content, and none my other strains have any to speak of. But I think that the decision was made before I started those. As much as I want to grow the one strain that didn't pop, I'm going to flower out. Nothing new is going into the rotation, and if none of the clones make it - so be it. I'll buy a CBD strain pack of seeds.
It's not just the stash I have, because I think I can store it long term with no problem (too many options with decarb included) but I want to over-haul and clean out both rooms, then start a regular rotation having only one in flower and one in veg. I know that I can keep myself happy and medicated with that size harvest regularly, but having only one or two plants is a lot less work.
It's not just the stash I have, because I think I can store it long term with no problem (too many options with decarb included) but I want to over-haul and clean out both rooms, then start a regular rotation having only one in flower and one in veg. I know that I can keep myself happy and medicated with that size harvest regularly, but having only one or two plants is a lot less work.
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I got that FF Fruit & Flower that is supposed to be the shiznit. All three plants got a half cup of it. then watered the pots well with RO. no calmag, nothing. It isn't supposed to need anything but water for a month... We'll see
I'm doing it to prevent future burn on this one
I'm doing it to prevent future burn on this one
The hulk is drinking like a fish. She's saying she's thirsty. but the SOG is just crawling along.
I only pruned one shoot on each limb for the Banner, but I stretched her again. Future hulk plants will be fun to manifold properly.
But I had to get agent orange on the SOG. I think she wasn't growing because leaves were all shaded by each other.
Before,
After
I took all her ties off for now, and probably for good. Skywalker=No LST. After a few days rest, I'll go in and be more selective. Today was just getting the shoots I didn't want. Next round will be pruning up the shoots I'm keeping after I see what grows now and what doesn't.
I only pruned one shoot on each limb for the Banner, but I stretched her again. Future hulk plants will be fun to manifold properly.
But I had to get agent orange on the SOG. I think she wasn't growing because leaves were all shaded by each other.
Before,
After
I took all her ties off for now, and probably for good. Skywalker=No LST. After a few days rest, I'll go in and be more selective. Today was just getting the shoots I didn't want. Next round will be pruning up the shoots I'm keeping after I see what grows now and what doesn't.
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On the Hulk I chopped any "outside" shoots that would be shaded by the LST. As it got towards the top I could either keep 2 outer shoots or the one facing the center, so those are the 4 I pruned today - right where each hook is. Then I just pruned any lower leaves and buds off all the center cola, nothing but tops. They may get done again, but she's showing pistils so probably not.
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Further investigation shows that the Fruit and Flower is part of yet another feeding schedule with more parts to buy LOL. Not happening any time soon, but I do think I may end up going mostly organic just to get rid of nute-burn. The F&F is all it is supposed to get at the end anyway, but I'll have to see what the other components are and match them for the 2 younger plants.
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With the stuff having dried too quick, I tried an experiment with the last plant I chopped.
The buds were still a little squishy, but I went ahead and got rid of any big stems and jarred it up. The thing I was curious about was the vacuum part. To be safe I threw a few extra Boveda packs in there that were well used (might soak up more rH).
So far so good, and I think I may be on to something. 48hrs ago I jarred this, and the leafy-bits were just sturdy enough to keep you from hurting the bud, but everything was still a day or two from dry.
I don't have a job, so every 4-6 hours I empty the jar, let it air out on a rack in my dehydrator for 15-20 minutes (not on, just dust-free) then re-weight it and vacuum it back up In those two days it has gone from 54.7g to 50.3g while jarred up.
The thing is it still smells great, no hint of mustiness. It feels 'back to' like what a plant this far along should. I chopped this the night of the 10th/morning of the 11th, and it still feels like a plant about that far along hanging (in the right environment) even though it was jarred up after 2 days.
It's a little labor intensive, and fun, but in the end there are four things that degrade your flowers -
light/temp
wrong rH,
oxygen, and time
The buds were still a little squishy, but I went ahead and got rid of any big stems and jarred it up. The thing I was curious about was the vacuum part. To be safe I threw a few extra Boveda packs in there that were well used (might soak up more rH).
So far so good, and I think I may be on to something. 48hrs ago I jarred this, and the leafy-bits were just sturdy enough to keep you from hurting the bud, but everything was still a day or two from dry.
I don't have a job, so every 4-6 hours I empty the jar, let it air out on a rack in my dehydrator for 15-20 minutes (not on, just dust-free) then re-weight it and vacuum it back up In those two days it has gone from 54.7g to 50.3g while jarred up.
The thing is it still smells great, no hint of mustiness. It feels 'back to' like what a plant this far along should. I chopped this the night of the 10th/morning of the 11th, and it still feels like a plant about that far along hanging (in the right environment) even though it was jarred up after 2 days.
It's a little labor intensive, and fun, but in the end there are four things that degrade your flowers -
light/temp
wrong rH,
oxygen, and
I am thinking that the glass jars in the right storage place and vacuum sealed would be better (and cheaper) than just the C-vaults for long term storage. C-vaults are still better for stuff you're getting into all the time though.
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Quick update on the NL. She's gonna be another ugly producer. If the bud-leaves keep getting bigger I may ditch all the fan leaves to keep from shading them.
But here's the plant in a nutshell. The buds look beautiful, the old fan leaves are probably doing more harm than good.
Even the lower buds look fine.
EDITED: I had to tuck some leaves and got my first good whif. Pine trees
But here's the plant in a nutshell. The buds look beautiful, the old fan leaves are probably doing more harm than good.
Even the lower buds look fine.
EDITED: I had to tuck some leaves and got my first good whif. Pine trees
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@Madriffer You can see on this pic how it's set up (kind of). And if you look at the racks they are on, there's a different height for one rack (fixing that).
That was what I meant when I said I got that 7-plus ounce harvest basically from one 135 (or 2/3 of two of them). All 4 plants were on that left side for the most part. However you want to figure it, I pulled 216g from 4 beat up plants in less than 90 days. 2/3 of the 270 total watts was around 180, so I think I got close to if not over the gram/watt goal.
It's not as frosty as it could have been, but based on the sugar I got from the trim I'll be fine
All you can't see is a 6" AC Infinity fan and a carbon filter in the overhead.
That was what I meant when I said I got that 7-plus ounce harvest basically from one 135 (or 2/3 of two of them). All 4 plants were on that left side for the most part. However you want to figure it, I pulled 216g from 4 beat up plants in less than 90 days. 2/3 of the 270 total watts was around 180, so I think I got close to if not over the gram/watt goal.It's not as frosty as it could have been, but based on the sugar I got from the trim I'll be fine
All you can't see is a 6" AC Infinity fan and a carbon filter in the overhead.
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Effing beautiful if I do say so myself. I like this strain - but I said that about the NL around this point so knock wood...
And this one is getting some leaf tucking for a few days while I figure out what still needs to go.
Some YUUUUUUUUUGE old fan leaves (with no burn )
And this one is getting some leaf tucking for a few days while I figure out what still needs to go.
Some YUUUUUUUUUGE old fan leaves (with no burn
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And last, the clones. I put these in solo-cups Thursday morning.
I would normally be getting pots and soil ready for transplant in the next few days so they don't get root-bound, but I think that since I am trying to force re-veg, I should probably let them bind, and force top growth.
I would normally be getting pots and soil ready for transplant in the next few days so they don't get root-bound, but I think that since I am trying to force re-veg, I should probably let them bind, and force top growth.