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GypsyBush

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sorry for qouting n not responding to the quote...just cought up on your big grow journal and the one thing i have to say in efforts to prolong and make benificial your endevors over the long haul... you mentioned this on your own also..start with bigger pots...i think your prob using something less than or arround 1/2 gall for those starter plants i would suggest 2 gals of hydroton to start and then up to the 19 gals from that... i have busted the roots on some potted plants before and they have grown very similar to plants that i un potted and repotted...i can tell you that the coco is miles ahead of the soil when it comes to repotting and time for shock...but i suspect you already have that insight as i suspect that dwc hydro and true coco reg watering are very similar in there respects of watering and nute/o2 intruduction
Right on Bro...

Glad you stopped by...

I totally get the little pot thing... and I know I am hurting, in comparison to having her in a big pot...

BUT.. big but there...

This plant used to be a mom...

She lived to give me cuttings... I didn't need a big pot... when she got big, I would chop her down to nothing... and in 2 weeks she was ready for another pass of cuttings..

That plant has been in veg for 8 months now... I have taken literally hundreds of BIG clone off of her...

So yeah Big pot is in the works... but these plants were all moms...

and they were all CRAMMED into a single 2x4 tray...

Different purpose altogether...

But she is filling in the big girl shoes pretty good considering this was all but an afterthought...

The next generation will start out in bigger pots...

But in all honesty... I believe that by the time I harvest, the 19 gallon tub is going to be FULL of roots...

If you scale things down... in size.. and look at my zero veg clones...

They barely have a root popping out of the RW cube, I mean not even an inch...

And they go straight to flower.. I often have to hand water for a day or two until the roots reach the flood level...

By the time I chop them the pot area below the flood level is packed solid with roots...

So ALL those roots grow while the plant is in flower...

I know... I know.. they are little plants...

But this girl already had roots.. and I have provided her with a very good environment to spread those roots...

I honestly believe that with the veg time she is getting and the good stable environment she has... this plant will have more than enough roots to flower adequately...

But we will see in about 2 and half months...:lol:

And as for the "root bound" comment made earlier...

I have flowered plants in my ebb flow in a Rapid Rooter Plug in one of those RR holder thingys...

Basically I had a pot big enough for the plug and MAYBE 20 clay pellets...

It yielded the same as the rest of the clones that were that size, but in full pots...

Using ebb flow as I have, I do not believe a plant can become "root bound" in that sense of the word (IN HYDRO)... IT CAN CHOKE ITSELF... but size of roots in hydro is not nearly as big a factor as in soil for example..

As long as the roots are getting nutrients the plant will grow...

Here is a picture of some roots.... these roots gave me 10 grams of dried dank...







Yup I got 10 grams from THAT.. which does not seem that impressive until you consider that my fully potted best performers rarely go over 28grams...

But we'll see when she is finished..

Cheers Bro...

And thanks for dropping by...:mrgreen:



gypsy how do you get them so crystally? molases?
I like to cook with molasses...

You give it to your plants???:confused:

I have massive aircooling on my lights, way over-powered... so my plants can be REALLY CLOSE to the light...

Right now I actually have a few taller buds touching the glass...

Kinda squished, but otherwise unharmed by the 600 HPS 6" away...

He sold he soul to a whirling Brazillian dervish, which, coincidentally enough, had but one leg.
Who? Saci..?

He is just a friend... he doesn't want anyone's soul... he is a protector of the forest and can be very mischievious sometimes... especially if he doesn't like you..

But he's not the devil or anything...:lol: just a forest spirit...:razz:

Well... now I'm gonna stick this in my pipe and smoke it... bongsmilie :razz::eyesmoke:

 

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bigjesse1922

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Lol I know, I know. I read the whole post :-)

But it was funny to me so I thought i'd post it. Alas, I stand corrected ;-)

These brownies are goooood...
 

GypsyBush

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So...

I'm chopping some pretty good clones tonight...:hump:

I let some go a little longer, and some will be a little less done..:o

But they all look tasty...:weed:

...here is the first of the eve..

This bud is solid, packed, dense, heavy... just really really DENSE bud... almost no hair or airspace .. just hard, solid bud...

Very sour smell and taste...

This is MEDICINE... knock you out kind of weed....

I only let this strain go to full maturity for my bedside stash... the one I hit when the pain wakes me up and I want to go back to my dreams...:eyesmoke:

I wish I knew the strain name to share, I am SURE this is top grade DNA... but I'll never know...

Anyways...:razz:

Bagseed Indica - Zero Veg Clone - Wet Weight 97Grams



Pre-Trim...









Trimmed all of the Fan Leaves...

that's a standard size bic lighter by the way.... not a small one...;-)










Full manicured Bud weighing in at 97.2 grams WET WEIGHT











Now if I could just get all 48 like that every time..:roll: :razz:
 

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purpdaddy

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what do you usually yield from one cloe gypsy...What you were doing doing is my goal..But i first am learning how a tree grows before i clone..i also need a flower chamber and habe nowhere to put it!LOL..Looks like an ounce or a lil over..check me if im wrong...
 

GypsyBush

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what do you usually yield from one cloe gypsy...
My over all average of the op sits at just over 1/2 oz per clone... it puts my overall average at 1.2 g/w

My very best clone was 1 1/4oz but that was ONCE!

My worse clone was that bowl of Juicy Fruit I grew... maybe 0.5 grams...

My worse average on a batch of 48 was 0.3g/w ... that's 1/8 per clone...

My Best average on a batch of 48 was 1.8g/w... and that's basically 1oz per clone on all of them...

My best shot was the last batch I did before going "organic"...

My worse was the time I fucked up all my clones and only had the tiniest of clones rooted... so I flowered what I had... better than nothing..


What you were doing doing is my goal..
It's not hard at all...

I am 100% sure you could do it... and if you planned it right, you could get 1g/w the first time..


But i first am learning how a tree grows before i clone..
Don't mean to be a smart ass... but.. if you want to do SOG, I recommend you start doing SOG ..:lol:

Growing bushes will not teach you SOG...

and moms... they are easy... just keep the healthy... and chop the shit out of them often... show'em who's boss...:lol:

i also need a flower chamber and habe nowhere to put it!LOL.
I hear you there ... space is nice...

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Looks like an ounce or a lil over..check me if im wrong...

I go by a rule of 1/4 wet weight....

But I have grown these strains enough to know that the Indicas don;t loose quite that much in dry/cure...

But the Sativas actually come out a little less than 1/4 wet weight...

So it averages out... about 1/4 wet weight...:lol:

So yeah, I expect an honest oz out of that puppy... and several other in this batch... super nice results...

I will not be to shocked if I match my best with this tray... but I did have 4 bigger girls on the tray this time... so it's almost like cheating...

Cheers Purp...

Have a great weekend...:clap:
 

purpdaddy

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My over all average of the op sits at just over 1/2 oz per clone... it puts my overall average at 1.2 g/w

My very best clone was 1 1/4oz but that was ONCE!

My worse clone was that bowl of Juicy Fruit I grew... maybe 0.5 grams...

My worse average on a batch of 48 was 0.3g/w ... that's 1/8 per clone...

My Best average on a batch of 48 was 1.8g/w... and that's basically 1oz per clone on all of them...

My best shot was the last batch I did before going "organic"...

My worse was the time I fucked up all my clones and only had the tiniest of clones rooted... so I flowered what I had... better than nothing..




It's not hard at all...

I am 100% sure you could do it... and if you planned it right, you could get 1g/w the first time..




Don't mean to be a smart ass... but.. if you want to do SOG, I recommend you start doing SOG ..:lol:

Growing bushes will not teach you SOG...

and moms... they are easy... just keep the healthy... and chop the shit out of them often... show'em who's boss...:lol:



I hear you there ... space is nice...

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I go by a rule of 1/4 wet weight....

But I have grown these strains enough to know that the Indicas don;t loose quite that much in dry/cure...

But the Sativas actually come out a little less than 1/4 wet weight...

So it averages out... about 1/4 wet weight...:lol:

So yeah, I expect an honest oz out of that puppy... and several other in this batch... super nice results...

I will not be to shocked if I match my best with this tray... but I did have 4 bigger girls on the tray this time... so it's almost like cheating...

Cheers Purp...

Have a great weekend...:clap:
Yea man i can see your point..no never come at me lie a smart ass...we too good for that but. yea man thas sum nice numbers but you gotta have alotta them to make a ice harvest...one more week and im flushin and choppin...so ready to get those out there and start with the new ones..

here they are...World of Seeds and G-13 labs. all feminized
With Canna Aqua line nutes..I need to use them before they go bad!But they been stored in a dry,cool dark place.
 

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GypsyBush

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gotta have a lot of them to make it work...

That is why I am stopping the SOG machine and going to trees...

220+ plants in flower...

14 moms...

hundreds of clones rooted and rooting...

It's not as bad as it sounds... but it sounds REALLY BAD...

and the law looks at plants numbers...

So I decided to try and keep 4 plants in flower...

and an assortment of my 7 strains in different stages of veg so I can harvest/flower a tree every two weeks...

I have not worked out an actual schedule yet, but I have a feeling I will be cloning from the tree as she leaves the veg room...

I want to keep it around 20 plants if possible...

But I need to sit down and do some figuring out...:eyesmoke:

and man... this Juicy Fruit is so tasty dude... You should grow it so I could watch...:lol:
 

purpdaddy

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gotta have a lot of them to make it work...

That is why I am stopping the SOG machine and going to trees...

220+ plants in flower...

14 moms...

hundreds of clones rooted and rooting...

It's not as bad as it sounds... but it sounds REALLY BAD...

and the law looks at plants numbers...

So I decided to try and keep 4 plants in flower...

and an assortment of my 7 strains in different stages of veg so I can harvest/flower a tree every two weeks...

I have not worked out an actual schedule yet, but I have a feeling I will be cloning from the tree as she leaves the veg room...

I want to keep it around 20 plants if possible...

But I need to sit down and do some figuring out...:eyesmoke:

and man... this Juicy Fruit is so tasty dude... You should grow it so I could watch...:lol:
man trust me ive been lookin ever since i said i was back a couple pages and cant find any Fem. JF beans..I will never grow reg. beans again//not worth it.in LA 4 plants and they takin everything from you! I never grow more than 4..
Yea ive seen the vids on youtube about SoG and it is my goal..but just dont ave the space for all that..Man u just dont know how bad i wish i did!
 

Thundercat

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Yet another beautiful harvest gypsy!!

So after all the talking into SOG you've been tryin to do to me, your gonna go to trees huh. I'm still trying to figure out exactly how I'm gonna optimize my light. I'm trying to figure out how to get the best results with the fastest turn around under my 1000w light.
 

GypsyBush

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Gorgeous GB, you should be a proud father :-)

:peace:
Thanks Jesse...:razz:

Yet another beautiful harvest gypsy!!
Thanks TC... This whole tray is coming out just right... nice and fat...:lol:

So after all the talking into SOG you've been tryin to do to me, your gonna go to trees huh.
In my opinion, SOG is one of the most efficient ways to grow...

But I have become increasingly uncomfortable with the number of plants I have..

The move to the trees will hopefully give me the same yields, but the efficiency will go down as I am going to need an HID to beg, on top of the 400w t5 i used for my moms...

But going from 300+ plants to hopefully around 20 will make me feel better...

And it's always nice to learn something different too...

And of course... the way I am doing the transfer, I ended up with a different room, with no carpet and better access to better ventilation...

I'm still trying to figure out exactly how I'm gonna optimize my light. I'm trying to figure out how to get the best results with the fastest turn around under my 1000w light.
Fastest I would have to say would be a SOG... just because of the zero veg... and the small plants do mature a little faster...

Anytime you have a runt, you can just pull it and put in a fresh healthy clone... so if you set it up right, you can have 4 fat colas per square foot... mine are actually tighter than than a little bit..

But for it to work well, you have to have lots of extra clones, rooted and ready to go... lots of plants...
 

purpdaddy

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all depends on what kinda high you like...let the trichs get more amber or reddish color for a more narcotic high..like painpills.
 

o= High= o

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i would like to try to get a little of both, i read you can if you get it at just the right time, so should they be mostly amber or all of them real dark amber
 

onthedl0008

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They look mostly clear to me right now. U will see them all turn Real milky.. U will know. From there.. U could wait anywhere up too 3 weeks to chop. But like already said.. Depends what u like.. Milky cloudy will bring u a nice head buzz with a good body rush.. Milk with amber gonna bring u all of that plus begin to set u on ur ass.
Mostly amber with milky trichs should make u retarded and numb. Completely amber is probably gonna sit u on ur ass and put u too sleep the whole time wondering WTF just happened cause before u fall asleep u will be pretty much retarded.. Numb.. As in u cant move ur arms or feel ur fingers.. Then if ur lucky they should say maybe u will fall asleep. Alot of time flies during this period.. Hope this helps . Peace.
 
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