Gun Lovers, You're Screwed.

BodegaBud

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More bullshit propaganda. The one thing I notice is the shootings are getting worse the more progressive the country is. People are just losing their minds which didn’t happen when kids were raised right.
 

Budley Doright

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More bullshit propaganda. The one thing I notice is the shootings are getting worse the more progressive the country is. People are just losing their minds which didn’t happen when kids were raised right.
If it’s all propaganda and ease of access, and lack of or no training, do not add to the problem, then you must have proof of this right??? Which “more progressive” countries?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Show some proof of this because no cares about "what you heard"!!
as much as i find porkins an enormously rude, arrogant fuck, who asks all kind of questions, but supplies no answers...
i can't find much record of guns disappearing from registries in europe, and i looked. if you can supply relevant links, do so please
 

CunningCanuk

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I haven't heard a word about how to reduce deaths, just a fixation on rights.
Just as it always has been and sadly, will probably always be.

You are living in a country where a large percentage of your fellow citizens feel wearing a mask during a public health emergency is an infringement on their rights. Many of these same people consider a gun registry and background checks an infringement on their second amendment rights.

As long as a large portion of people remain more concerned about their individual rights than the health and well-being of society as a whole, the problem will never be solved.
 

Rob Roy

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well-being of society as a whole, the problem will never be solved.
Since governments gain "consent" not thru actual consent but thru coercion, your post is self contradicting. You are advocating for coercion as a systemic means.

The well being of society doesn't improve when coercion is the primary operational means. Your whining argument says it does, which is why you are wrong.

You confuse imposed order with peace. Common mistake of the fearful.
 

Rob Roy

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The MAJORITY of Americans support stricter gun laws.
You seem to support gun control if the majority votes for it, or am I wrong?
Jim, if a person is otherwise peaceful, owns a gun and then a gang of others come to him and try to use force (they have guns) to disarm him. which party is the aggressor and using guns irresponsibly?
 

CatHedral

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Show some proof of this because no cares about "what you heard"!!
Impossible to prove or disprove.

As to your next post, this highlights a difficulty. Doctors diagnose “mental issues” but lawyers interpret policy. I don’t think the term is cut and dry.
 

Rob Roy

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Doctors diagnose “mental issues”
Maybe the first thing a doctor does is take those actions which will keep him/her licensed and ensure his/her own well being.

That means their allegiance is usually to the state edicts, therefore their diagnosis is often skewed in favor of whoever is paying them to do the diagnosis. "You're paying me and need me to diagnose this person as X ? Sure thing!!
Hospitals being paid more for covid cases is my evidence.

Doctors are held in too high a regard sometimes. Lawyers are scum, mostly and that's the good ones.
 

CatHedral

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I haven't heard a word about how to reduce deaths, just a fixation on rights.

I don't care what gun owners do to reduce gun deaths, but they are part of the problem so they will be part of the solution. I'm not hearing any interest from gun owners to bring gun deaths down. I don't own a gun and most people who do are less safe, so the "self defense" argument seems silly. But gun owners are a minority group and their numbers have been steadily declining for the past 50 years (went from about 50% to about 33% today). So the tactic of saying no to any changes is a losing one. We outnumber you guys. Eventually we will just do what we want and I'm pretty sure gun owners won't like what non gun owners will do. Its in gun owners interest to reduce the harm guns are doing in the US.

You are absolutely right about your right to carry. I have no interest in that. The thing is, with power comes responsibility. What measures do you support to reduce gun deaths? Personally, I think a good start is to add resources into background checks. I also think that funding research into ways to reduce gun deaths. Our lawmakers are just guessing right now because funding research into ways to reduce gun deaths by the CDC was banned. I'm not interested and don't care about "taking yer gunz". I just want the death rates due to guns go down.

Regarding suicide by gun. I'm fine with that.
You are correct on both points. I have no proposed solution, since my grasp of the psychology of people who kill people with civilian guns is pretty much zero.

What sticks out for me is collateral gun distribution without documentation. Aside from the black market, gifts/bequests and gun show sales should be ended.

As for background checks, I don’t even think about them. My state does thorough checks and imposes a 15-day wait. I’m good with that.

Banning CDC is stupid. That needs undone. How else to get the info I mentioned not knowing above?

My biggest fear or beef is excessive gun control as exists in California being generally imposed. They have a rather small “allowed guns” list, which means many interesting and collectible guns are simply not available except to law enforcement. I’d like law enforcement (civilians) to be identically regulated.

But how to reduce the constant dull roar of piecemeal injuring and killing with guns? I don’t know. I’m wide open to ideas that don’t start with buybacks or other inventory reduction pressures.
 

Trashman357

Member
I agree with you we need some gun control that is less than some people like and more than others would want. Money and man power to back and enforce the new laws is the most important part of the problem.
Can't control gun flow when everyone has a unregistered firearm Then the police take a hour to respond
 

CatHedral

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as much as i find porkins an enormously rude, arrogant fuck, who asks all kind of questions, but supplies no answers...
i can't find much record of guns disappearing from registries in europe, and i looked. if you can supply relevant links, do so please
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The guns I’m thinking of were never registered.

Interesting read

 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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It's a Colt "New Frontier" .22 from the '70s

it has an extra cylinder (shown) for .22mag
It’s cool looking. It reminds me of the guns they used in that movie with Clint Eastwood where the crazy Italian cowboy bandit smokes weed. It’s called for a few more dollars. That movie is so bizarre . Most of the movie the actors just stare at each-other and the camera shots just shows their faces for like a minute then goes to the next scene. Then more staring.
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