Gun Lovers, You're Screwed.

Porky1982

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Several first-world countries allow civil gun ownership.
More than several almost all allow gun ownership through heavily regulated licensing and back ground check systems.

Something which America clearly lacks and has clearly had a detrimental effect on your country.
 

CatHedral

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More than several almost all allow gun ownership through heavily regulated licensing and back ground check systems.

Something which America clearly lacks and has clearly had a detrimental effect on your country.
I have heard that the primary effect is the disappearance from the records in Britain, Germany and France of about a hundred million guns each.
So your moral superiority plays not so well.
 

Porky1982

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I have heard that the primary effect is the disappearance from the records in Britain, Germany and France of about a hundred million guns each.
So your moral superiority plays not so well.
Look you and many other Americans may think it's a great idea to be able to walk into one of many thousands of shops that sell guns and purchase anything from a hand gun to a machine gun and enough amo to kill hundreds if not thousands with in some cases no checks but the rest of the world thinks that is complete stupidity. That's why America is the only country on earth that it's possible.
No moral superiority here mate i think it's utterly insane and am very glad that it's not possible where I live.
 

mooray

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It is relative to the quality of people. I forget which Scandi country employs conscription and you keep your rifle and are basically expected to be on reserve for life. Yet, they don't have near the issues we have. They're simply better people. If we were awesome, you could put guns in cereal boxes and it wouldn't matter.
 

CatHedral

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Look you and many other Americans may think it's a great idea to be able to walk into one of many thousands of shops that sell guns and purchase anything from a hand gun to a machine gun and enough amo to kill hundreds if not thousands with in some cases no checks but the rest of the world thinks that is complete stupidity. That's why America is the only country on earth that it's possible.
No moral superiority here mate i think it's utterly insane and am very glad that it's not possible where I live.
But you make it sound like a bad thing.

Doing mean or dumb things with a gun here is quite illegal in the US also.
 

CatHedral

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It is relative to the quality of people. I forget which Scandi country employs conscription and you keep your rifle and are basically expected to be on reserve for life. Yet, they don't have near the issues we have. They're simply better people. If we were awesome, you could put guns in cereal boxes and it wouldn't matter.
Switzerland not Scandinavia
 

mooray

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Switzerland not Scandinavia
Thought it was Sweden maybe? Anyway...somewhere over there.

When I was a kid, there was a local gas station that literally sold handguns and alcohol. And this was in California.

Heck, our 5th grade field trip was to the shooting range, again, in California.
 

CatHedral

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Thought it was Sweden maybe? Anyway...somewhere over there.

When I was a kid, there was a local gas station that literally sold handguns and alcohol. And this was in California.

Heck, our 5th grade field trip was to the shooting range, again, in California.
Not like that any longer.
 

Fogdog

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But you make it sound like a bad thing.

Doing mean or dumb things with a gun here is quite illegal in the US also.
Why can't we have the same low rates of gun homicide and accidental deaths that countries similar to us have? Is that too much to ask?
 

Porky1982

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Fuck me I'll spell it out for ya dummy.
The point in my post about most Americans think its ok to buy a gun and shit loads of amo at a variety of locations with almost no licencing or background checks.
Which with you reply you answered.
You understand that??
 

CatHedral

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Why can't we have the same low rates of gun homicide and accidental deaths that countries similar to us have? Is that too much to ask?
That I don’t know. But my suggestion would be to reduce “states’ rights” influence, and close obvious leaks like sales at gun shows.

In return for the repeal in California of the draconian “allowed guns” list and the ammo registry. A Hawaiian and a Nevadan should have equal and equally regulated access.
 

CatHedral

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Fuck me I'll spell it out for ya dummy.
The point in my post about most Americans think its ok to buy a gun and shit loads of amo at a variety of locations with almost no licencing or background checks.
Which with you reply you answered.
You understand that??
This is too subjective . Emote less and reason better.
 

CatHedral

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Why can't we have the same low rates of gun homicide and accidental deaths that countries similar to us have? Is that too much to ask?
Oh. A big one.
Police are civilians. They should be subject to the full weight of local gun law. If I cannot carry, neither can they.
No more SWAT. That becomes an exclusive FBI franchise. I’m tired of uniformed civilians prancing around with actual full-auto assault rifles.
 

CatHedral

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Don't try and sound smart when you can't even understand how a point is proven without it explained to you!!
Oh a scathing rebuttal.
Still you seem to be saying “guns bad” but making no real case. Guns aren’t bad just because someone says so.
 
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