Gun Lovers, You're Screwed.

madvillian420

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You gun nuts are sooo committed to the belief that guns make people safer. Despite all the evidence saying otherwise, your kind doubles down by saying we just need more guns. We already have one gun for every man, woman child and their cats in this country. Gun homicide, suicide and accidents are 5x to 10x that of other similar nations. Also (snicker) gun sales went up at the beginning of the epidemic, did those virus killing bullets do anything to stop the surge in April, 2020? But you double down. You'd have second grade taught by a pistol packin 60 year old teacher.

When you follow your belief and things continue to go wrong, examine your belief very carefully. It's up to you. Take a good hard look at alternatives. I know I'm asking for something that you may not be able to do, but I have to ask. You and other gun owners have painted yourselves into a corner. But you don't HAVE to stay there.
Way more than one, pal haha.
 

hanimmal

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I’m not sure what your calling a false issue and pretty sure most schools frown on weapons being brought to school now ‍♂.
Im talking about the 'arming teachers' being the stupid shit that the Republicans push to try to own the libs.

Are you suggesting metal detectors, armed guards? Is that not happening now in some schools?
Im cool with metal detectors and think that is a good way to go. But more just no backpacks/purses/bags etc, and anything that the kid needs in school being provided while they are in the building so that way it would be far more difficult to sneak guns into schools.

We need to harden our schools unfortunately, but not weaponize them.

I honestly don’t know what it’s like in the schools there but we do have (in some schools) a community based police officer :(.
Oh we defiantly have them here too.





 

Budley Doright

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You and “SOME” other gun owners have painted yourselves into a corner. But you don't HAVE to stay there.
FIFY
I do become somewhat embarrassed when I read these types of posts . It may be my “right” to own a gun (it’s actually not here), it is also my responsibility to promote safe responsible use of them (arming school teachers is not one ..... god help us). All 3 daughters took gun safety courses but only one has limited desire to hunt. Half of my guns have been handed down from 2 generations and will go to the kid who wants them. It would be a shame to lose them (same as the clock my great grandfather built) because of a stubborn group who, from what I can see, are just mostly idiots, with idiotic suggestions.
 

Fogdog

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FIFY
I do become somewhat embarrassed when I read these types of posts . It may be my “right” to own a gun (it’s actually not here), it is also my responsibility to promote safe responsible use of them (arming school teachers is not one ..... god help us). All 3 daughters took gun safety courses but only one has limited desire to hunt. Half of my guns have been handed down from 2 generations and will go to the kid who wants them. It would be a shame to lose them (same as the clock my great grandfather built) because of a stubborn group who, from what I can see, are just mostly idiots, with idiotic suggestions.
"You gun nuts" "Some other gun owners"

six eggs or half a dozen?

If you read my post, you'd see I wasn't calling out all gun owners. I apologize if you thought I was directing my comments at you. I went back an looked at my post and don't think I did. I'm not going to add layers of soothing adjectives just in case.
 

hanimmal

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Distracted by minutia, are you?

That's one of the propaganda tricks Republicans like to play.

You know what? If there are more than one gun per person in this country, then we have enough for every person to have one gun. :roll: Some people need the obvious explained to them.
It cracks me up that people think they are Jason Borne and have use for dozens of guns.

I get people enjoy shooting animals and guns are not going anywhere, but it doesn't mean that they have any real reason to think they are needed for self defense.
 

Budley Doright

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"You gun nuts" "Some other gun owners"

six eggs or half a dozen?

If you read my post, you'd see I wasn't calling out all gun owners. I apologize if you thought I was directing my comments at you. I went back an looked at my post and don't think I did. I'm not going to add layers of soothing adjectives just in case.
Nope and if you read my post I was not feeling at all like you were referring to me, just injecting a word that I thought might add clarity. No need to apologize but thanks ;).
 

Budley Doright

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I would note that they did not need them. I think we would have heard if any of their neighbors were attacked or had a gun show in their yard because of the social justice protesters.

These brainwashed gun toting Karens are scared idiots.
They should have been charged with dangerous use of a firearm. Is that even a thing there :o!
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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They should have been charged with dangerous use of a firearm. Is that even a thing there :o!
i don't think so, but there are higher penalties for using a handgun in the commission of another crime, and for being under the influence while in possession of a handgun. you aren't allowed to fire weapons in city limits, and even the county will come out and see what you're up to if anyone calls about it. it's not quite the wild west here that most people think it is, but it is fucked up...you're allowed to open OR conceal carry here, pretty much anywhere except federal property. i don't usually carry one, but when i do, i just stick it in my pocket...the only real reason i can see to carry is to get the drop on someone who is already armed...i don't want to wear a gun on my hip, so they know to shoot me first when they go off....0
 

hanimmal

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They should have been charged with dangerous use of a firearm. Is that even a thing there :o!
https://apnews.com/article/michael-brown-st-louis-20062ccc6593bd91757ad1ea4a190db5
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O’FALLON, Mo. (AP) — Missouri Gov. Mike Parson announced Tuesday that he made good on his promise to pardon a couple who gained notoriety for pointing guns at social justice demonstrators as they marched past the couple’s home in a luxury St. Louis enclave last year.

Parson, a Republican, on Friday pardoned Mark McCloskey, who pleaded guilty in June to misdemeanor fourth-degree assault and was fined $750, and Patricia McCloskey, who pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000.

“Mark McCloskey has publicly stated that if he were involved in the same situation, he would have the exact same conduct,” the McCloskeys’ lawyer Joel Schwartz said Tuesday. “He believes that the pardon vindicates that conduct.”

The McCloskeys, both lawyers in their 60s, said they felt threatened by the protesters, who were passing their home in June 2020 on their way to demonstrate in front of the mayor’s house nearby in one of hundreds of similar demonstrations around the country after George Floyd’s death. The couple also said the group was trespassing on a private street.

Mark McCloskey emerged from his home with an AR-15-style rifle, and Patricia McCloskey waved a semiautomatic pistol, according to the indictment. Photos and cellphone video captured the confrontation, which drew widespread attention and made the couple heroes to some and villains to others. No shots were fired, and no one was hurt.

Special prosecutor Richard Callahan said his investigation determined that the protesters were peaceful.

“There was no evidence that any of them had a weapon and no one I interviewed realized they had ventured onto a private enclave,” Callahan said in a news release after the McCloskeys pleaded guilty.

Several Republican leaders — including then-President Donald Trump — spoke out in defense of the McCloskeys’ actions. The couple spoke on video at last year’s Republican National Convention.

Mark McCloskey, who announced in May that he was running for a U.S. Senate seat in Missouri, was unapologetic after the plea hearing.

“I’d do it again,” he said from the courthouse steps in downtown St. Louis. “Any time the mob approaches me, I’ll do what I can to put them in imminent threat of physical injury because that’s what kept them from destroying my house and my family.” He echoed those comments in a statement issued Tuesday by his campaign and added: “Today we are incredibly thankful that Governor Mike Parson righted this wrong and granted us pardons.”

Because the charges were misdemeanors, the McCloskeys did not face the possibility of losing their law licenses or their rights to own firearms.

The McCloskeys were indicted by a grand jury in October on felony charges of the unlawful use of a weapon and evidence tampering. Callahan later amended the charges to give jurors the alternative of convictions of misdemeanor harassment instead of the weapons charge.

Parson’s legal team has been working through a backlog of clemency requests for months.

He hasn’t yet taken action on longtime inmate Kevin Strickland, who several prosecutors now say is innocent of a 1978 Kansas City triple homicide. Parson could pardon Strickland, but he has said he’s not convinced he is innocent.

Missouri’s Democratic leader contrasted Parson’s treatment of Strickland’s case with the McCloskeys in bitter denunciations of the governor’s action.

“It is beyond disgusting that Mark and Patricia McCloskey admitted they broke the law and within weeks are rewarded with pardons, yet men like Kevin Strickland, who has spent more than 40 years in prison for crimes even prosecutors now say he didn’t commit, remain behind bars with no hope of clemency,” Missouri House Democratic Minority Leader Crystal Quade said in a statement.

Democratic state Rep. LaKeySha Bosley said, “The governor’s stunt ominously underscores that under his watch, justice belongs only to the privileged elite in this state.”
 

Budley Doright

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i don't think so, but there are higher penalties for using a handgun in the commission of another crime, and for being under the influence while in possession of a handgun. you aren't allowed to fire weapons in city limits, and even the county will come out and see what you're up to if anyone calls about it. it's not quite the wild west here that most people think it is, but it is fucked up...you're allowed to open OR conceal carry here, pretty much anywhere except federal property. i don't usually carry one, but when i do, i just stick it in my pocket...the only real reason i can see to carry is to get the drop on someone who is already armed...i don't want to wear a gun on my hip, so they know to shoot me first when they go off....0
Well IMO the open carry does nothing to dispel the “Wild West” myth for countries with more restrictive laws, just sayin :o!
 

CatHedral

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Here's another bit of distracting minutia that gun propaganda and lobby like to use.

"AR-15s are assault rifles"

Saying that is like tossing a treat to a dog. Nothing makes a gun nut happier than to dive into irrelevant minutia over the term AR. But it's irrelevant.
AR-15s with the select-fire provision are indeed assault rifles.

99+% of AR-platform guns being sold are mere assault weapons.
 
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