Gun Lovers, You're Screwed.
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CunningCanuk
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CunningCanuk
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Nobody is. It’s because they don’t have homicide problems.
You’re not too bright, are you?
Fogdog
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Is having a very low rate of deaths due to guns a problem?
So, are tanks in front of schools why Canada has 1/6 the rate of non-suicide gun deaths than the US?
CunningCanuk
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Much better raccoon reference.
Hieronymus
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No, unfortunately not. I'm undereducated and far to stoned to think clearly.
Hieronymus
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No it's a great thing obviously. I live in the fucking woods, again not very intelligent. There is not very much going on crime wise where I live. I know what I know. It's ok to disagree.
CunningCanuk
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Sure, but you just admitted you don’t know anything about NZ murder rate and gun laws. If you were more curious, you might know more than what you know.
Fogdog
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Why is it that the US can't have the same low rates of deaths due to gun violence or accidents found in other similar countries?
Hieronymus
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I'd be lying if I told you I knew. Is the answer the system is fucked? What do you think? Is it guns or is it culture?
Fogdog
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Good question. I mean, it's not like owning a gun just makes people crazy. Millions of people own them but only about fifteen thousand a year are killed by guns, through violence or accidents. So, it's not just the gun but the gun makes it very easy to hurt or kill people. So it's not just crazy or sociopathic people going off. Can't do the same harm with a knife that a gun can and don't need physical skills either.
Why do Republicans resist funding for research to answer that question?
I can see owning a gun for hunting but don't understand the "self defense" argument at all. In a way, I do own a gun -- a speargun for taking fish while diving. I'm not anti-hunting with a gun, bow or trap if people follow the regs.
smokinrav
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Its both. America was born in blood. America was raised in blood, and America will never lose its heritage willingly.
And America will then die in blood, probably from us attacking each other. Welcome to legacy
Budley Doright
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Tanks??? LOL that’s a good one lol.
Hieronymus
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I'm no republican. Far from it. I believe we need a way more robust mental health system in my opinion. I'm just a middle of the road depressed 37 year old trying to survive. I'm for peace. I'm also for blowing up binary explosives in accordance with state and local laws.
Fogdog
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How to Persuade Americans to Give Up Their Guns
The way to reduce gun violence is by convincing ordinary, “responsible” handgun owners that their weapons make them, their families, and those around them less safe.
Last year was also a high-water mark for gun violence—more people were shot dead than at any time since the 1990s—though 2021 is shaping up to be even worse. There was one bright spot in 2020. When Americans self-isolated, mass shooters were denied their usual targets. But as America began to return to normal, so did the mass shootings: 45 in the single month between March 16 and April 15.
The shock and horror of mass shootings focus our attention. But most of the casualties are inflicted one by one by one. Americans use their guns to open fire on one another at backyard barbecues, to stalk and intimidate ex-spouses and lovers, to rob and assault, and to kill themselves. Half of the almost 48,000 suicides committed in 2019 were carried out by gun. All of this slaughter is enabled by the most permissive gun laws in the developed world.
You know this. You’ve heard it before. Maybe you have even gotten sick of hearing it. Yet the problem continues to get worse. The Biden administration is developing strategies to try to decrease gun violence—to crack down on rogue gun dealers, to “keep guns out of the wrong hands.” That’s a worthy project, of course, but it, too, may sound wanly familiar. Over the past decade, many states have relaxed their gun laws, making these weapons even easier to get.
In the forthcoming Supreme Court case, New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Corlett , the NRA will argue that the 2A not only protect people's right to own firearms but to also carry them -- anywhere.
The National Rifle Association will argue that the Second Amendment should be interpreted as granting a constitutional right to carry firearms in the streets, parks, playgrounds. If the NRA prevails, the nearly 400 million guns in the United States will show up in even more places than they do now.
People carrying guns everywhere, no restrictions whatsoever. What could possibly go wrong? It is a grand example of doubling down. It might even get the nod at the SCOTUS.
Sir Napsalot
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madvillian420
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background checks are already a thing. Even at gun shows. even if you buy online.
CatHedral
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Only in a minority of states.
What Is the Gun Show Loophole and Why Does it Exist?
Gun sold or transferred by private gun owners are not regulated by law in many states, creating a loophole in gun control.
Fogdog
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Background checking system is a joke. Underfunded, not enough time, gun show loophole and zero accountability. This is an area perhaps where gun owners could rally with non gun owners to improve.