giving defoliation during flower a try

bigworm6969

bigworm6969

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wow there is alot of argueing in this thread i wasnt going to posts but fuck it, over the years when i first started out i to was a believer that fans leafs shouldnt be cut cause the plant needs them, but the last couple of years all throught the grow i been chopping any fan leafs that cover up bud sites just a little here and there and about 3-4 weeks in flower i do one last chop, chopping off any leafs that block out light from getting to the lower bud sites and i must say my plants have never been happier, it doesnt delay flower and my buds are hugh, im not scientist but i think this is a good method of getting good yields, i know for a fact when them lower bud sites dont get no light they dont grow and yellow and die so i try to make sure they all get light just my two cents
 
Hot Diggity Sog

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bigworm6969 said:
wow there is alot of argueing in this thread i wasnt going to posts but fuck it, over the years when i first started out i to was a believer that fans leafs shouldnt be cut cause the plant needs them, but the last couple of years all throught the grow i been chopping any fan leafs that cover up bud sites just a little here and there and about 3-4 weeks in flower i do one last chop, chopping off any leafs that block out light from getting to the lower bud sites and i must say my plants have never been happier, it doesnt delay flower and my buds are hugh, im not scientist but i think this is a good method of getting good yields, i know for a fact when them lower bud sites dont get no light they dont grow and yellow and die so i try to make sure they all get light just my two cents
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That sounds perfectly reasonable to me. If a bud site is not getting light it's not going to produce, right?
 
bigworm6969

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if u want to see a real life example of my boys plants where he chopped off the leafs that blocked out light and his plants are badass alot of people wish they had plants like his check them out its under raiderman grow in grow journal, hes no longer with us bless his heart but he was a beast and so was his plantshttps://www.rollitup.org/members/raiderman.70813/
 
bigworm6969

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Johnny Retro said:
Not according to UB. He says fan leaves provide all energy for the flower. He says flowers don't need direct light.
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yeah i know im not the one to argue and ub has been at it along time, but if the buds dont need direct light why do the buds that dont get light turn yellow and hardly dont grow, but the buds that get light are green and healthy and big so how come this is and how come when i chop off my leafs my plants bud get bigger
 
Johnny Retro

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bigworm6969 said:
yeah i know im not the one to argue and ub has been at it along time, but if the buds dont need direct light why do the buds that dont get light turn yellow and hardly dont grow, but the buds that get light are green and healthy and big so how come this is and how come when i chop off my leafs my plants bud get bigger
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His reply will simply be "Apical dominance" because he read it in some books. But in practice does it hold true? From what I've seen on this site, no.
 
bigworm6969

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if you look at raiders grow you will be impressed with all of his big ass buds and not one big fan leaf in the pic, now when in veg you can see all the leafs there everywhere you can barely see the stalk, and then thru out the grow he takes the fan leafs off and his plants ant nothing but buds its awesome i strive everyday to have beast plants like him
 
bigworm6969

bigworm6969

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can you guys see in the beginning there where fan leafs everywhere and towards the end there ant as many and his buds are like baseball bats
 
bigworm6969

bigworm6969

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there are sum fan leafs you dont cut them all off and u dont want to do this to a young plant let it get big and mature and do a little at a time and about 3-4 weeks in flower i do one last chop of fan leaves any that are blocking light from a budsite get chopped and it works for me the proof is in the pudding
 
bigworm6969

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ive notice really smart people i mean smart like rocket scientist lack common sense like the easiest shit to me and u is hard for them but when it comes to math there beast its wierd how that works
 
bigworm6969

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oh yeah i just wantted to add these are my good friend raiderman pics not mine he was a beast at growing big buds and he swore by useing goldentree
 
Uncle Ben

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Hot Diggity Sog said:
That sounds perfectly reasonable to me. If a bud site is not getting light it's not going to produce, right?
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Wrong. That is not the reason why certain budsites don't bulk up in favor of those that do. Like I said, we've had this conversation before because every new crop of (lazy) noobs won't use the SEARCH feature.

Cannabis flowers are not capable of photosynthesis.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/no-lower-budsites-do-not-need-light-to-develop-get-educated.829061/
 
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jacksthc

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Uncle Ben said:
Wrong. That is not the reason why certain budsites don't bulk up in favor of those that do. Like I said, we've had this conversation before because every new crop of (lazy) noobs won't use the SEARCH feature.

Cannabis flowers are not capable of photosynthesis.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/no-lower-budsites-do-not-need-light-to-develop-get-educated.829061/
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check this out UB :)

I have been trimming leaves to keep the canopy level and full

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The six plants in late flower

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3 of the plants with the fan leaves removed, just before harvest

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and a good size bud in my hand

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so this is why I cut and remove fan leaves at times in veg and early flower
 
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