Gastanker's 600+w Organic UV Grow

flowamasta said:

looking great Gas!! wow huge growth from the last pics! wow, and looks like you got things under control, shweeeeet

lots of variety , good luck man, tried to rep+ and got bitch slapped

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I too got bitch slapped


Sorry to hear about the drama gas you don't deserve it. Garden looks happy man but i think I spot some mag def

Thanks guys. I'm surprised the plants look as good as they do. Been ignoring them quite a bit as I hate climbing into the attic and with everything else going on they just aren't a priority. This week has been fine but last week was hitting 100+ in the attic during the day with lights off which means they've been having warmer "nights" and colder "days" which really isn't great for them - I'm thinking that's what's slowing down the big plant from jumping faster into flower. Oh, and I found more mites lol. Someone remind me to spray the little ones after the weekend.

What makes you think mag def roach? Leaf curl? I'm pretty sure the leaf curl is due to a poor watering cycle - I'm having a hard time with that due to the dry dry attic and the very variable temps - some days they need watering everyday and other times it's once a week I do however supplement with CaMg from time to time though. The weird looking lower leaves on those two small front ones are from hot soil I believe. They looked really really funky from the start but are slowly growing out of it.

The first pic I think I see rust spots on the bigger plant towards the bottom, not so much on the smaller ones. Also that last pic has the yellow dots on the leaves but that could be from the mites, nute burn, or some other def.

i'm maybe guessing the soil you used, hard to keep stable perhaps...got a good run considering if you ask me!! you grew them like a weed, and they are finishing up, so good luck there man! daaamn fuckin mites they suck ass, that's why soil grrrrrr pisses me off even outside, i hate when i find mites on the outdoor, they never get that bad outside, but then i gotta trim and do something about them , so i don't contaminate the house

Hey gas, its been a while. I am starting to realise that smart pot might not be the way to go with supersoil, since we dont need the soil to dry fast to add more nutes, I think that regular container that retain moisture longer are better for super soil,... lower maintenance anyway! I have a few plants in regular nursery pot and a few in home made smart pot with landscape fabric, and each one in regular container are doing much better. I can easily be away from home for 4 days at a time, but it`s not nearly as hot in my chunk of the world.

your plants are looking great anyway! I may upload a few pics of mine tonight if I can get my girlfriend to do it for me, still dealing with shit tendonitis... I am still doing another 12-12 from seeds. And I just mixed a batch of supersoil with a slightly different recipe, looking forward to see how that one will go, I am planning on starting another 12-12 from seeds shortly to try out my new soil before the winter!

• My New Recipe!:
  
  2 x 3.8cu.ft. PROMIX
  5 lbs Flower Power mix 4-10-4 from Welcome Harvest Farm (fish meal, bone meal, greensand, canola seed meal, langbeinite, kelp meal, rock phosphate)
  2 lbs Canola meal 6-3-1
  5 cups Neem cake 3-2-1
  4 cups flower Guano 2-17-0
  2 cups Greensand 0-1-8
  2 cups Alfalfa meal
  3 cups Glacial Dust Rock
  About 50grams GardenPro 0-0-3 (trace elements)
  30liters worm castings
  2 Tbsp Humic Acid
  
  I forgot to mix in the Epsom Salt, everything is in garbage bins now so I may add it individually when I get my pots ready or just go without.​

  
  
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Not saying you are wrong Endur, but most people use smart pots for the root growth/pruning.

Gas your plants look excellent to me bro, but i am a total newb but to me youll always be mister miyagi and I a humble daniel son

roachclip420 said:

Not saying you are wrong Endur, but most people use smart pots for the root growth/pruning.

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I am just going with what I am seeing now, also in nature there would be no such thing as root pruning? It is definitely lower maintenance with regular container but it`s worth experimenting more, as of now, half of my plants in regular container are twice the size as the other half!

My sore throat progressed into my sinuses - completely sober I feel like I have nyquil drip while my liquidized brain matter painfully tries to squeeze through my nose.

RE smartpots - I don't think the idea is to provide more nutrients, the idea is to air prune the roots and to provide additional aeration. Air pruning does happen to a small extent in nature (think of roots growing into river banks and the like) but here we're attemtping to use it for just more natural root growth compared to a traditional pot. In nature roots are confined by rocks, stumps, ... but generally are allowed to grow and expand in most all directions. Root growth has two parts, primary and secondary, primary is the main structural root and secondary are the smaller roots which actually constitute much more of the total surface area for absorption. When a plant hits a traditional pot the root to a degree halts a percentage of the horizontal secondary growth and switches to focus on growing the structural lateral root in order to bypass the barrier. On the other hand when the root hits the air/light the plant is stimulated to start primary and secondary growth at other parts of the plant - no reason to expand roots into the dry air and light.

That being said it all really depends on a multitude of factors. Organically you never want your soil to totally dry up, so if using smart pots if your soil is drying up too quickly then plastic might be better. Medium also plays a big factor - I like heavy soils and amend with clay and silt to make them even heavier - in this case it's better to have a porous pot that allows lots of aeration and dries a bit quicker because the clay likes to really hold onto water and can become very dense. My attic on the other hand is very very dry so I wouldn't want to use a smart pot smaller than ~5g or it would dry way too fast - which is why I kept those smaller ones in the plastic 1g.

I miss my large smart pot. I lined the bottom of that one with quite a bit of clay/silt so the entire thing never dried out completely but at the same time the sides were porous enough to provide proper gas exchange after a heavy watering.

oh I feel you with the sore throat, I had the worst cold last month, I had to buy 2 packs of Halls every day to stay high all day, I couldnt smoke without taking meds just before hehe... I was sick for a while too but in the end I sweat it out at work.

Also, personnaly I dont think it's a good idea to re-use the smart pot (not sure if you were planning on reusing your big one), well I dont know for the actual smart pot but I re-used some landscape fabric and it got messy (rust and white/mold? growing on the outside) the fabric is almost impossible to clean! I guess I will have to do some more comparison on the next grow, but so far I got much better result in plastic container with my setup.

Try rinsing it off with a garden hose to get most of the big chunks out then throw it in with a load of laundry. That's what I do and it works great. Can't remember how long exactly but they wont break down unless you use them over and over again for many years.

Gastanker said:

Oh, and FUCK THE DMV!

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hahahahahahaha yeah i fucking hate that place

Clean them? I've never seen a reason to clean them... I have some algae along the sides of my large outdoor ones but I don't mind it much - can't survive inside the pot w/o light and dries up between watering. And I have some calcium stains from my water but those don't both me much as well. I would recommend a bleach solution spray or H2O2 to clean them if you are picky. IMO a good drying out in the sun is all they really need.

I want to say that I've documented the smart pots with more rapid growth - Here for instance is the first round of this thread.

Started all in plastic - (ignor the two larger ones)

Week later and they already look bigger in the SP - of course not a fair comparison due to soil amounts.

Another week later - these pics do not include the 2 larger ones, these were all started the same day

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White Russian x White Russian - Showing pistols

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I have one this round in a smart pot and it seems to be larger already as well but we shall see. I really think it's totally situational dependent though. If hard plastic works for you then definitely continue with it. I have heap loads of every sized hard plastic pot so if they do better this round in my attic I'll definitely continue with them. Definitely not dragging a 65g up to the attic anytime soon No idea what that bolding is about, wont let me get rid of it.

Oh, I should throw in that smart pots are really really tough. I was dragging my outdoor ones around on the cement all the time filled with a couple hundred pounds of soil and just recently I moved all three of them full from my last place to this one. Just picked em up by the handles and stacked them into the car. I was blown away, a year outdoors and full of soil and every single handle held up no problem, even while we swung them into the car. 65g is alot of soil - ~6 1.5cuft bags and Happy Frog isn't the lightest soil, especially when amended with clay.

RetiredMatthebrute said:

hahahahahahaha yeah i fucking hate that place

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I got there at 8am when they opened and waited for 2 hours while they went from ticket A005 to A011 and I was A022... No way I could wait another 4 hours so I left. Complete miserable waste of time.

Gastanker said:

I got there at 8am when they opened and waited for 2 hours while they went from ticket A005 to A011 and I was A022... No way I could wait another 4 hours so I left. Complete miserable waste of time.

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yeah they are fucking horrible but they dont mind taking your money thats for sure

I would like to bring up the fact that the plants in your plastic container are in smaller container than the smart pot, I have experienced the best growth when plants are in bigger pot at an early age. Like I said before, I thought that the main advantage of smart pot were that the soil dries faster and people can feed more often using conventional chemical fertilizer, I had forgotten about the air pruning thing, I will have to do more trial but I am not sold on smart pot yet with supersoil.

Help please one of my 5 plants is starting to form seeds near the bottom around 5 or six from what i can count they are all six weeks into flower what should i do? if it is a hermie can i still smoke it? should i let it keep growing or should i cut now help me please?

rizzo692 said:

Help please one of my 5 plants is starting to form seeds near the bottom around 5 or six from what i can count they are all six weeks into flower what should i do? if it is a hermie can i still smoke it? should i let it keep growing or should i cut now help me please?

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you can either chop it down and smoke the buds or you can keep a eye out for developing male flowers and pinch them before they release the pollen and wait for them to finish.

thank u for the response bro, thats the thing i never seen male flowers on these girls but the one plant got seeds only at the bottom i know if there is seeds it has to been pollen sack around but i cant find? will seeds spread to other plants should i remove? i put it in my veg tent for the moment to keep away from girls