Gastanker's 600+w Organic UV Grow

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Tiny ones are looking lame but they do all seem to be female. Super cropped the center chocolope for a 2nd time. THe funky leaves are the result of heavy spraying with Azamax - whatcha going to do.

 
flowamasta

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startin to look like your last grow man! i'm amazed at how much they stretch! would it be possible to transfer a couple of those lights from up top that aren't being used and utilise them for more light toward the smaller ones? bit of fabricating i'm sure but i think would be largely benaficial ;) good luck with the mites ey , damn buggers, i swear the government made the little bastards......

looking good gas, and i love your chicken coop, if only i had one for my free range red english hen, little shit ate my outdoory leaves, all good now, they are off the ground!

EVERYONE LOVES WEED! and i just love your setup, rekon those fish aquarium places have uvb bulbs? i'm gettin ready for flower soon, and thinking of utilising a couple for a test
 
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flowamasta said:
startin to look like your last grow man! i'm amazed at how much they stretch! would it be possible to transfer a couple of those lights from up top that aren't being used and utilise them for more light toward the smaller ones? bit of fabricating i'm sure but i think would be largely benaficial ;) good luck with the mites ey , damn buggers, i swear the government made the little bastards......

looking good gas, and i love your chicken coop, if only i had one for my free range red english hen, little shit ate my outdoory leaves, all good now, they are off the ground!

EVERYONE LOVES WEED! and i just love your setup, rekon those fish aquarium places have uvb bulbs? i'm gettin ready for flower soon, and thinking of utilising a couple for a test
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Thanks. The plant in the far right back has super super tight node spacing but the Chocolope stretches like crazy - always has for me. I wouldn't say the Chocolope is a huge yielder either, not shabby but not great, the smoke however makes up for it ten fold. Aquarium shops generally only carry tiny tiny compact UV bulbs for filtration purposes. Check a pet store that carried reptile equipment and they will have UV bulbs. Personally if I didn't have the side lighting I would grab one of these - http://www.reptileuv.com/megaray-sb-160-watt-self-ballasted-flood-zoo-lamp.php Most UV and largest cast pattern.

And unfortunately I cannot take the lighting unit apart. Each box is mounted to a communal back plate as well as being both welded to each other as well as powder coated together. I have seen hospital units that can be broken apart but these two would be too much of a pain to attempt. Not to mention their value - technically each of those units that I got free is still worth ~$1,500 used or something crazy. If I had a head on my shoulders Id source them out and buy some new T5 lighting and more HID. Maybe in a few years I'll strip all the ballasts out and junk the housing unit all together but for right now it works well enough as is. Jesus - this place has these units new for $2,600. That seems sooo absurd for what you are getting. http://www.pnwx.com/Equipment/ViewEquip/Wolf/Liberator/
 
flowamasta

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great information man, i'm totally with you now, i checked out the uv lamp aswell, seems as though you have to be qualified or something to be able to buy those lamps :( will keep looking, ring up a reptile place today, thanx man, one more thing... those compact UVB with 10.0 uvb output, those be suitable? i have seen some people use them , verdict? thanx man, top bloke
 
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flowamasta said:
great information man, i'm totally with you now, i checked out the uv lamp aswell, seems as though you have to be qualified or something to be able to buy those lamps :( will keep looking, ring up a reptile place today, thanx man, one more thing... those compact UVB with 10.0 uvb output, those be suitable? i have seen some people use them , verdict? thanx man, top bloke
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The CFL 10.0 UV bulbs are good - better infact than the linear ones I use. That shop will sell you the high output UV bulb as long as you say you have a UV meter or explain to them that it will be used to supplement plant growth and not for animals. I personally explain to them that I'm testing the effects of UV on plants for a school science project - generally gets them all jazzed and you end up with a discount. Pretty close to the truth as well. As long as they are sure that you will not fry some poor innocent animal they really don't care. For the coverage it is by far the cheapest UV source you can find.
 
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thanx man, i have found a cfl 10.0 with lead but no reflector for $82 australian, seems expensive, but would what you think? reflector is another $25 would i need that?
 
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flowamasta said:
thanx man, i have found a cfl 10.0 with lead but no reflector for $82 australian, seems expensive, but would what you think? reflector is another $25 would i need that?
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That seems crazy expensive. I generally pay around $12-15 per 26w 10.0 CFL or $8-12 per linear 18w T8. $82 seems super super high unless it's a 4' linear T5 or a 250w Mercury Vapor like that one I linked you too (and even then it sounds high). $10 Clamp on shop lights (reflectors) work wonders.
 
flowamasta

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That seems crazy expensive. I generally pay around $12-15 per 26w 10.0 CFL or $8-12 per linear 18w T8. $82 seems super super high unless it's a 4' linear T5 or a 250w Mercury Vapor like that one I linked you too (and even then it sounds high). $10 Clamp on shop lights (reflectors) work wonders.
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no kidding ey!? ok more research i may have a look though cause its not far from here, and maybe a good one, i'll take some pics, i wouldnt of thought any more than $50 per bulb setup, if they don't emit too much heat i may use 2, thanx for your feedback gas, i may amazon it
 
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unfortunately, Gastanker is busy busy these days, not much action on his journal lately!! I agree, great place to learn!!
 
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Blah, been way too busy. Non stop obligations, invitations, celebrations, tons and tons of heavy lifting (i HATE moving), driving, driving, driving. I want someone to remove my spine and work all the kinks out while I take a month long nap.

First time I've seen my girls in a week and they aren't dead but don't look good at all. Hardcore mite action so again I mixed up some Azamax, this time at a much higher concentration, and I'll hope it doesn't fry my plants too badly. If the mites keep progressing at the same rate I might have to scrap this grow in a week and just start sterile at my new location.

Pretty sure this is the end of week 3 flowering:


Hardcore gobbled:
 
hammer6913

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theyve gotten big. yea mites are a bitch.. i have 3 pots in flower and ive got to sanatize my room.. gonna harvest early and prolly make hash from em.. sucks.. im using 50/50 rubbing alcohol and water. after a couple days of that i will start spraying with just water every couple days. my bro said since he started doing that. he hasnt seen a mite. he was infested with webs all over his buds. hope this works for me. take care dont do more than ya can. its toooo painful bro..
 
flowamasta

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all the best of luck there Gas, sucks with the bad luck timing. ive never had mites..thankgod, but a mate did, and he was in week 2 flower, so he bought a baygon flea bomb, which is 10% pyrethrin and bombed his grow room. mites dead, he did some research on this pyrethrin based bomb, and its apparently safe as it degrades under uv light (perfect in your situation with the uv lights) it will degrade under normal i suppose being they have UV and all, but think it would be better and safer, at the end of my mates harvest he, and with my shock, gave his buds a light wash in room temp water just to be sure. i smoked this bud, no noticeable difference, i was hesitant, and wish there was a way to see if it was entirely safe. pyrethrin is a plant based insecticide.

you probably are against it, but who knows, you use azamax, and i dont even know what that is, goodluck Gastanker
 
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flowamasta said:
all the best of luck there Gas, sucks with the bad luck timing. ive never had mites..thankgod, but a mate did, and he was in week 2 flower, so he bought a baygon flea bomb, which is 10% pyrethrin and bombed his grow room. mites dead, he did some research on this pyrethrin based bomb, and its apparently safe as it degrades under uv light (perfect in your situation with the uv lights) it will degrade under normal i suppose being they have UV and all, but think it would be better and safer, at the end of my mates harvest he, and with my shock, gave his buds a light wash in room temp water just to be sure. i smoked this bud, no noticeable difference, i was hesitant, and wish there was a way to see if it was entirely safe. pyrethrin is a plant based insecticide.

you probably are against it, but who knows, you use azamax, and i dont even know what that is, goodluck Gastanker
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Thanks for the kind words and info. I have used both spray bottle pyrethrin as well as foggers (bug bombs) and they do help but never seem to get rid of the mites. Azamax is an organic neem based spray that I have had better luck with than pyrethrin but at this point a double team would probably be good. Unfortunately I won't be there for around another week at which point I don't want any treatments regardless of how organic - aside from say flooding the tent with CO2.
 
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