free speech warriors are trying to cancel culture me for calling it horsey meds

hanimmal

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You are off topic. Someone in this thread asked about the theory of how Ivermectin works, so I explained it, and also I provided the Zelenko Protocol with specific dosages to those who want to know. You're welcome for the info. Keep moving the goalposts, and it will be simple for me to put you on ignore. Sure, there are many things which can not (yet) be proven one way or the other. I can't prove that Ivermectin works due to lack of ample studies, and you can't prove that it doesn't for the same reason.
lol please do, it will stop your stupid repossess as you continue to try to defend the propaganda that you spam from the reality that I post to show how full of shit these scams you keep posting are.

Man, after reading this, it is almost like the CDC is warning against your specific bullshit.
 

potroastV2

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lol please do, it will stop your stupid repossess as you continue to try to defend the propaganda that you spam from the reality that I post to show how full of shit these scams you keep posting are.

Man, after reading this, it is almost like the CDC is warning against your specific bullshit.

Yep, in San Diego County spouting covid misinformation like this is illegal.

Hmmm, I've already stopped his posting in the vaccine thread ...



:mrgreen:
 

injinji

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. . . . . . .Theories are fun!!! I make up at least five or six every day. The thing is, theories don't even have to be true to be useful. Like Newton's theory of gravity. On the other hand, theories need to be tested or validated otherwise they are just speculation. . . . . . . .
In scientific reasoning, a hypothesis is an assumption made before any research has been completed for the sake of testing. A theory on the other hand is a principle set to explain phenomena already supported by data. Theories will pull together experimental results to provide full explanations such as "The Big Bang Theory." Outside of scientific reasoning, "theory" and "hypothesis" are often used interchangeably, and "theory' can unfortunately be interpreted to mean "less sound" or "lightly speculated."

A hypothesis is an assumption, something proposed for the sake of argument so that it can be tested to see if it might be true.

A theory, in contrast, is a principle that has been formed as an attempt to explain things that have already been substantiated by data. It is used in the names of a number of principles accepted in the scientific community, such as the Big Bang Theory. Because of the rigors of experimentation and control, its likelihood as truth is much higher than that of a hypothesis.

 

PJ Diaz

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lol please do, it will stop your stupid repossess as you continue to try to defend the propaganda that you spam from the reality that I post to show how full of shit these scams you keep posting are.

Man, after reading this, it is almost like the CDC is warning against your specific bullshit.
You're just still salty because I debunked Beau. Be honest at least.
 

Fogdog

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You are off topic. Someone in this thread asked about the theory of how Ivermectin works, so I explained it, and also I provided the Zelenko Protocol with specific dosages to those who want to know. You're welcome for the info. Keep moving the goalposts, and it will be simple for me to put you on ignore. Sure, there are many things which can not (yet) be proven one way or the other. I can't prove that Ivermectin works due to lack of ample studies, and you can't prove that it doesn't for the same reason.
You explained how you want it to work. But ivermectin doesn't work. Is not effective at treating people suffering from or protect them from acquiring covid. Nobody has proven Ivermectin works because it doesn't. Not at the currently prescribed level.

That bit about ivermectin deactivating the rdrp enzyme the virus needs to make proteins is a belief of yours that you hold without good evidence that it is correct. You don't understand, you just cling to your belief.


Comparative docking of SARS-CoV-2 receptors antagonists from repurposing drugs

Our main example is ivermectin, where the probability of nonspecificity is extremely high, thus leading to hasty and erroneous conclusions.

Let me know if you need help understanding what this means.

This follows an in vitro lab test that showed ivermectin is not effective at inactivating SARS Cov-2 at safe (prescribed) levels. The dosage needed to be 10x that level. This explains why human clinical studies for ivermectin have come up with the same answer each and every time -- no evidence that it ivermectin is effective at treating or protecting people from Covid.

The Approved Dose of Ivermectin Alone is not the Ideal Dose for the Treatment of COVID-19


In summary, the likelihood of a successful clinical trial using the approved dose of ivermectin is low. Combination therapy should be evaluated in vitro. Repurposing drugs for use in coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) treatment is an ideal strategy but is only feasible when product safety has been established and experiments of repurposed drugs are conducted at clinically relevant concentrations.

So, Peej. If you want to try self-dosing yourself with ivermectin, you'd need to take ten times the currently prescribed and presumably known safe level of the drug in order to be within the concentrations they found necessary in a petri dish test. That kind of study hasn't been evaluated by the medical community. It's also not just a matter of signing people up. These tests take time to be done right. However, if you get a bottle of horse paste, you can probably do a DIY test.
 

PJ Diaz

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mine is getting hard just thinking of Pfizer..
Cool story bro.


 

hanimmal

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You're just still salty because I debunked Beau. Be honest at least.
lmao no, not in the least.

And I wouldn't so much as call it debunking, because of what @Fogdog covered about the fact that those people were under extreme observation after getting vaccinated and if that was when the Delta variant started, that would have found it.

But I do give you credit it was enough of a hole if you ignored everything else that he said to get anti-vaccine nuts to nod in agreement with you like you got him good.

You gonna cancel me here too, or just trying to flex?
Always be selling.

Cool story bro.


You mean accountability when a company fucks up is a bad thing? Who is held accountable for all the idiots killing themselves with the propaganda that the death cult is pushing?
 

PJ Diaz

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lmao no, not in the least.

And I wouldn't so much as call it debunking, because of what @Fogdog covered about the fact that those people were under extreme observation after getting vaccinated and if that was when the Delta variant started, that would have found it.

But I do give you credit it was enough of a hole if you ignored everything else that he said to get anti-vaccine nuts to nod in agreement with you like you got him good.

Always be selling.


You mean accountability when a company fucks up is a bad thing? Who is held accountable for all the idiots killing themselves with the propaganda that the death cult is pushing?
As far as the Pfizer thing, my only point is that I'm pretty surprised to see folks cheering them on like they are some kind of utilitarian company, when they have been lying and deceiving people for decades.

As far as Delta, we really don't know. The fact is that Delta likely originated in India, not Israel. India did have their vaccine trials going months before Delta emerged. It's also a fact that the first person in India to contract Delta was vaccinated; she contracted it abroad, and brought it home, infecting others along the way.
 

UncleBuck

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As far as the Pfizer thing, my only point is that I'm pretty surprised to see folks cheering them on like they are some kind of utilitarian company, when they have been lying and deceiving people for decades.

As far as Delta, we really don't know. The fact is that Delta likely originated in India, not Israel. India did have their vaccine trials going months before Delta emerged. It's also a fact that the first person in India to contract Delta was vaccinated; she contracted it abroad, and brought it home, infecting others along the way.
Hey peej eat shit
 

mooray

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As far as the Pfizer thing, my only point is that I'm pretty surprised to see folks cheering them on like they are some kind of utilitarian company, when they have been lying and deceiving people for decades.

As far as Delta, we really don't know. The fact is that Delta likely originated in India, not Israel. India did have their vaccine trials going months before Delta emerged. It's also a fact that the first person in India to contract Delta was vaccinated; she contracted it abroad, and brought it home, infecting others along the way.
Also have to remember that if you fully demonize every single person/entity for doing something shitty, there are literally no people/entities left.
 

hanimmal

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As far as the Pfizer thing, my only point is that I'm pretty surprised to see folks cheering them on like they are some kind of utilitarian company, when they have been lying and deceiving people for decades.
This is one of those times that people just say shit and expect others to pick some side on a bullshit position.

'Cheering' on a company that worked for decades to have the ability to bring a vaccine into market in about a year doesn't mean that at the same time people are acting like they are perfect in everything that they do.

They are a large company that has been around for a very long time, they have had many successes, and many failures, and many somewhere in the middle. But all that science still builds on itself, as should all the lessons we have learned about them too.

As far as Delta, we really don't know. The fact is that Delta likely originated in India, not Israel. India did have their vaccine trials going months before Delta emerged.
I would point to the fact that India has a huge population and the virus tearing through large portions of it made the likelihood of a new variant coming from it higher than a lower population nation like Isreal (who is highly vaccinated).

It's also a fact that the first person in India to contract Delta was vaccinated; she contracted it abroad, and brought it home, infecting others along the way.
I pretty sure calling that a fact is bullshit. There is no way that you can tell if that person was the first one to contract that variant.
 

PJ Diaz

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I pretty sure calling that a fact is bullshit. There is no way that you can tell if that person was the first one to contract that variant.
Sorry, my bad that was a typo on my part. I meant to say, It's also a fact that the first person in Israel to contract Delta was vaccinated; she contracted it abroad, and brought it home, infecting others along the way.

 
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