Foxtailing buds

my buds are foxtaijng. i started to notice a few days ago. currently at day 64 of 12/12. breeder recommended 8+ weeks, whatever that means. so my main question is should i lower my light levels to prevent further foxtail formation?

also i am confused with breeders reccomend. they say 8+ weeks but what does that mean? i would assume then it would be done then before 9 weeks correct? because if that was true wouldnt they have just said 9+ weeks?

Disregard breeder “ estimates “ .... your own grow environment, skill , and style of grow all dictate the real world result .
Most times it’s market hype or from highly “ controlled “ grows under optimal conditions.

Run til done ... that’s all you need to do.

Fox tails express for a number of reasons .... genetics , latent pheno trait , heat , too much light. , etc.

Not overly pretty , but all smokable. By checking off items like your environment, grow conditions might lead you to what may be “ your “ cause for it , but it happens from time to time anyways ( sativas ).

Budzbuddha said:

Fox tails express for a number of reasons .... genetics , latent pheno trait , heat , too much light. , etc.

Not overly pretty , but all smokable. By checking off items like your environment, grow conditions might lead you to what may be “ your “ cause for it , but it happens from time to time anyways ( sativas ).

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plant is getting 1000ppfd at center of plant. thats what im assuming is the cause. temps have been steady around 68-72 F RH 30-40%
anyways im going to harvest on monday. i looked at some trichs and the older calyxes definitely have amber on them and cloudy

harvesting on monday puts me at 9.5 weeks of 12/12. i changed the lights though now to get approx 33-35DLI. im a believer that too high a DLI during the last weeks of flower will cause foxtails. my next plant will be from a more common strain that i can find information online about

i like that some of the buds are so heavy they are falling over. just from first look dont you think they are finished though?

most of the pistils are withered and receded back. the pistils you can see in the picture started to develop within the last 3 days

@Budzbuddha is that good? hard to see the pistils but you kind of can see

I noticed foxtailing when I was around 82-84 I backed it to 79 now theirs no sign of stress so its possible but that's not really foxtailing in that pic looks like genetics

Gond00s said:

I noticed foxtailing when I was around 82-84 I backed it to 79 now theirs no sign of stress so its possible but that's not really foxtailing in that pic looks like genetics

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its definitely a new round of pistils regardless. the calyxes that i checked that had receded pistils have 75/25 couldy amber so im good to go

master420ofkush said:

@Budzbuddha is that good? hard to see the pistils but you kind of can see

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Look at all buds to determine “ average “ doneness .... it wouldn’t be a stretch to harvest the upper canopy buds and run the lowers to “ finish “ . Partial harvesting.

im harvesting pretty damn soon for my gdp coming down this weekend shes relying on the trellis so i think Its time for her to come down soon

Budzbuddha said:

Look at all buds to determine “ average “ doneness .... it wouldn’t be a stretch to harvest the upper canopy buds and run the lowers to “ finish “ . Partial harvesting.

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i dry the plant in the tent. i would have to hang in less than ideal conditions in order to harvest in stages. if i had a separate drying room or area i would definitely harvest in stages. i use the tent, a humidity controller, and the exhaust fan to dry inside the tent

I had foxtails on one of two strains in the same tent using the same nutrients. I suspect light intensity and possibly temp but I'm really not sure. I ran an HLG 550 v2 18" from tallest colas at 100%. Temps 80-82. It was my first grow with this light so I'll probably try backing down the power and raising the light a bit next time. My foxtails were a lot worse though, your buds look good but I see your point. New pistils late in the grow...

master420ofkush said:

i dry the plant in the tent. i would have to hang in less than ideal conditions in order to harvest in stages. if i had a separate drying room or area i would definitely harvest in stages. i use the tent, a humidity controller, and the exhaust fan to dry inside the tent

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I have the same problem, no where else to dry. I bought a uhaul wardrobe box to make a drying box but never used it. Always managed to chop all at once. No doubt there are advantages to a phased harvest though.

Look into brown bag drying .... easy way to slowly dry buds in permeable paper bags that can be stored in closet , under bed etc.
All without having to find a “ area “ to hang. Bags breathe and shutter light.

Budzbuddha said:

Look into brown bag drying .... easy way to slowly dry buds in permeable paper bags that can be stored in closet , under bed etc.
All without having to find a “ area “ to hang. Bags breathe and shutter light.

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i use a brown bag to dry. i have a process that works for my enviroment.
-hang dry each cola with all leaves intact
-after 2-3 days brown bag the colas with all leaves. (usually once the sugar leaves cradle the bud its ready for the brown bag)
-2-3 days in the brown bag then i trim and put into turkey bag to do a sweat of inner moisture
-turkey bag tied off for approx 8-12 hours
-open the turkey bag inside the brown bag and close for <10 hours
-jarred and ready for final dry and start of cure

why do i use the turkey bag? in my experience when i try to sweat the buds in jars, i get a mildewy ammonia type of smell. using the turkey bag allows a wider margin of humidity without worry of the bacteria smell. it works because it isnt 100% air tight, which prevents the anaerobic bacteria that cause the smell to not accumulate. nowadays i will not put buds into jars unless i am 100% sure they are dry enough to jar.

i usually have buds in jars within 7-10 days from initial chop. usually after a week in the jar burping daily the buds have reached a perfect drying RH and will sit to begin a cure. i usually end up with RH of 60-62% when finally jarred.

SheeshM said:

I had foxtails on one of two strains in the same tent using the same nutrients. I suspect light intensity and possibly temp but I'm really not sure. I ran an HLG 550 v2 18" from tallest colas at 100%. Temps 80-82. It was my first grow with this light so I'll probably try backing down the power and raising the light a bit next time. My foxtails were a lot worse though, your buds look good but I see your point. New pistils late in the grow...View attachment 4474137

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i have hlg 260 rspec as a light. at recommended 18” for flower the middle of the canopy is at 1000-1050 ppfd. my hypothesis is that its too much light for late flower.
12/12 at 1000ppfd is approx 43 DLI which is too high for late flower. i am going to try and lower DLI sooner to approx 35 (800ppfd at 12/12) at week 7ish next run to try and prevent the foxtails.