simpsonsampson420
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i dont know brands or wattages of cfls... BUT... http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5650616 here is a 6 pack.. for 15.. which is cheap as hell i think.. if i remember right cfls are kinda expensive.. but basically here is the rule of thumb... the smaller the bulbs wattages, the more you need... i would say use at least 3 or 4 - 20w cfls per plant.. this way you can wrap the entire plant with light... if you have 2 plants, for instance, you only need 6 bulbs... 2 bulbs plant 2 bulbs plant 2 bulbs... that way each plant has light from both sides, but you are using the 2 middle bulbs to light both.. make some sense?? i hope... im not good at explaining always...
super thrive is ok to use as long as you are only using what it says to for seedlings.. i will help to make a strong seedling/sprout/plant... and yea, as more and more leaves show, growth rates increase... think of a ball rolling down a hill... at first it rolls slow.. as it goes it picks up speed.. the further down the hill it gets the faster it rolls... same thing with leaf sets.. the more leaves there are to absorb light energy the more/faster the plant can grow..
ok.. i think you have two seperate issues... both are affecting the plant in different ways and throwing things off...No i just gave them there full dose of bloom. After coming on this site i realized that i should ease them over not just blast them. They are all tied back all ready. In the last week when it all started they have gronw about 14 inches and there suppose to be flowering.One out of the four is growing fine nothing happend to it, but it's also a different strain from the other three.
If you had to choose what would you do?
cut down the 2 stretched stringy plants to put in clones that i have going already or let them ride out? Will it fill in?
The table is a foot off the ground and the 1000 watt light is 24inches away, that leaves me with 6 feet of grow room and the 2 plants are 5.5 feet after the stretch now the plants are to tall for the room
All the issues are all on the top third of the plant.
I just noticed the nutrients for bloom has more nitrogin in it then the gro does this sound right?
1) the light leak has to get fixed... that much light will keep plants in a mix between trying to flower and trying to veg.. the result is super stretched plants, that look like they want to flower but wont, and could possibly turn hermie when it does finally flower... so try to get the flower room sealed up better..
2) you have nute issues.. when you go from veg to flower there are hormone changes in the plant.. a complete gear change.. but it takes a few weeks to do... bloom nutes need to be weened onto the plant, while veg nutes are weened off... this is because the plant cant use bloom nutes right away.. the actual nutes in it arent being utilized by the plant yet... its somewhat like when poeple switch some medications.. you have to gradually back off of one to start another... so that could easily throw your plants for a loop since you just start blasting bloom nutes... also, since they are sort of revegging, but still getting bloom nutes, they aren't getting what they need and cant use (they use some but its not the right ratios of what they need) what they are getting..
sometimes bloom nutes can contain more N than veg nutes... ask me why and i cant answer it.. but i think the N in bloom nutes is a different form of N than you get in veg nutes... which makes it easier for the plant to use during flowering...
personally, if you have clones ready to go, as much as this sucks, i would scrap the stretchy plants and just start the clones.. seal the room up really well so you dont have any light issues again.. work on transitioning the nutes from veg to bloom, and go from there... by the 3rd week of flowering you can be almost full strength bloom nutes.. just give them time to develope bud sites or even some flower before hitting them full strength...
