For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

dbkick

dbkick

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on another subject I went to home depot and got a vinyl covered polyester screening to contain the small roks, I think this will work well.Its chemically inert as far as i know.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

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Ive got a pic of what I set my timers to flood and how long to flood. In my journal, any ? You have ask im pretty
Up to speed on most the issue.
 
jdmcwestevo

jdmcwestevo

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so here is one of my grows i have going on right now. initially it was designed to be a 20k watt flower room with a 4k watt veg room. 96 buckets in the flower room with 48 in the veg for a perpetual harvest. we had some complications because i wanted to try some new things like the CAP dual trigger electric panel which is meh, the sunlight supply hoods which blow compared to CAP lumenaires. It is a sealed room with supplemental CO2 from 2 20lb tanks with sentinel fuzzy logic controllers. It is cooled by a 2 head split system LG 2 ton A/c. for the 5 hoods in the row there is one 8" 735 CFM valueline fan pushing and one pulling. i have 2 big carbon filters with 12" valueline fans i believe like 1100 CFM or so. i also have a bunch of oscillating fans in the room to keep air moving. these pictures are from my cell phone i had when we were still building, but gives you a good idea of this design. i'll post pictures of my 2 other rooms i just finshed both of them are 20k watt grows as well. one is with all mellonhead hoods and CAN Fans and quantum ballast. the other is with all CAP stuff. i'll start some journals too when i get time. lights center.jpgelectric room intake.jpgBuckets.jpgoutside ballast ac.jpglights corner.jpg
 
collective gardener

collective gardener

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jdmcwestevo said:
ok first off i have extensive experience with ebb and flow in both trays and buckets. I have used this system as well as the greentrees. now to answer your questions.

1. i currently use shredded coco, which i am trying for the first time, and so far i love it. i used to use hydroton with good success. Reason for changing is the ease of coco, and much better vigor. Hydroton is also a pain in the ass to clean.
2. i made some upgrades like the tiles etc. but the new greentrees system has incorporated larger diameter hoses, raised buckets for drainage, adjustable floats, basically all the things that needed to be addressed have been handled by greentrees.
3. i used a separate room for dedicated veg and moved the inner buckets to my dedicated flower room. i have also vegged and flowered in the same system at my other garden. i use mainly house and garden, with some additives from botanicare. your feed schedule is dependent upon your plants i tailor my nute strength etc. based on how my plants react.
4. i change the res every 5-7 days
5. house and garden, but i am doing a test for a new company in the UK
6. the CAP bucket system is complete garbage. their design is flawed and old. i burned out 3 brain buckets in one cycle, and my friend burned 2 in one month. i was lucky and caught it or i would have lost my whole crop which is 96 plants and 20k watts (Medical Collective grows)

BOTTOMLINE if you wanna use this system i would recommend getting the one from greentrees they started it and they have the best most up to date system. i can get you a great deal on a system if u want and drop ship it, i have my own store. if you have any questions i'll check in from time to time to answer them.
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How bout a couple pics of that 20K op?

edit: oops...see it. Thanks.
 
dbkick

dbkick

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you know......if I had 3 20kw grows.....I don't think I'd be on this silly little forum boasting about it let alone posting any photos. But most certainly +rep for balls.
Ah I see you say something about "medical collective grow" my bad, carry on.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
jdmcwestevo said:
so here is one of my grows i have going on right now. initially it was designed to be a 20k watt flower room with a 4k watt veg room. 96 buckets in the flower room with 48 in the veg for a perpetual harvest. we had some complications because i wanted to try some new things like the CAP dual trigger electric panel which is meh, the sunlight supply hoods which blow compared to CAP lumenaires. It is a sealed room with supplemental CO2 from 2 20lb tanks with sentinel fuzzy logic controllers. It is cooled by a 2 head split system LG 2 ton A/c. for the 5 hoods in the row there is one 8" 735 CFM valueline fan pushing and one pulling. i have 2 big carbon filters with 12" valueline fans i believe like 1100 CFM or so. i also have a bunch of oscillating fans in the room to keep air moving. these pictures are from my cell phone i had when we were still building, but gives you a good idea of this design. i'll post pictures of my 2 other rooms i just finshed both of them are 20k watt grows as well. one is with all mellonhead hoods and CAN Fans and quantum ballast. the other is with all CAP stuff. i'll start some journals too when i get time. View attachment 1713596View attachment 1713597View attachment 1713598View attachment 1713599View attachment 1713600
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Nice setup bet the power bill on that is crazy
 
jdmcwestevo

jdmcwestevo

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ya with industrial power i think the last bill was somewhere around 2k. in my other building it is shared power and the bill for the building gets divided up based on your sq ft. hahahaha my power bill for 20k watts and 4 tons of a/c is like $400 ahahha ROFLMAO pretty funny stuff. i'll post my other setup its much cleaner than that one like i said that is my nightmare room everything that could go wrong did lol.
 
dbkick

dbkick

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ok then, can anyone show me a detailed shot of their reservoir lid? I'm not understand how this goes together, they have a "special" 90 degree barbed fitting that the instructions say to place that inside the lid with the hole in the elbow facing down, and then hook tubing up from the fill pump to that elbow, my question is how do you connect tubing to the topside of the elbow that actually pumps to the control bucket?
 
researchkitty

researchkitty

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dbkick said:
I'm talking initial cleaning, anything after that does come pretty easy but those things sure come in dusty as fuck.
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Another easy fix. :)

Tools required:

Garden Hose with water
Screwdriver

1.) Poke bag of hydroton at the bottom with the screwdriver.

2.) Insert garden hose in top of hydroton. Turn on hose.

3.) Come back in 10 minutes.

Done!
 
researchkitty

researchkitty

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dbkick said:
ok then, can anyone show me a detailed shot of their reservoir lid? I'm not understand how this goes together, they have a "special" 90 degree barbed fitting that the instructions say to place that inside the lid with the hole in the elbow facing down, and then hook tubing up from the fill pump to that elbow, my question is how do you connect tubing to the topside of the elbow that actually pumps to the control bucket?
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Got a picture of the actual problem? Much easier to help :) :)
 
dbkick

dbkick

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researchkitty said:
Another easy fix. :)

Tools required:

Garden Hose with water
Screwdriver

1.) Poke bag of hydroton at the bottom with the screwdriver.

2.) Insert garden hose in top of hydroton. Turn on hose.

3.) Come back in 10 minutes.

Done!
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oh god no, you're idea of clean and mine must be two different things! but I did use that process TOO. my roks are pretty clean if you don't shake them up much :\
 
drgreentm

drgreentm

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mine is set up a bit different, the "special" 90 elbow pops through the lid from underneath and you have to put the hose on the top of that with a hose clamp on it (see pic 1) so that when the pump kicks on water falls back to the res (see pic 2) now when the pump kicks off the little hole in the 90 will break the siphon to the controller so it doesnt continue to fill when the pump kicks off.
 

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dbkick

dbkick

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hellraizer30 said:
View attachment 1714339View attachment 1714337ok DB hope this helps
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hellraizer yeah I think I see what you've done, you've taken a straight fitting with a short piece of tubing and the "special" vacuum break elbow below that, I thought from the instructions it said to place the vacuum break elbow in the grommet but that must not be the case since you can't fit a piece of tubing to the topside of the elbow because its too short, thanks man,
 
dbkick

dbkick

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drgreentm said:
mine is set up a bit different, the "special" 90 elbow pops through the lid from underneath and you have to put the hose on the top of that with a hose clamp on it (see pic 1) so that when the pump kicks on water falls back to the res (see pic 2) now when the pump kicks off the little hole in the 90 will break the siphon to the controller so it doesnt continue to fill when the pump kicks off.
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Ah, I intended to clamp that sucker anyway, thanks for the info.
 
drgreentm

drgreentm

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dbkick said:
my question is how do you connect tubing to the topside of the elbow that actually pumps to the control bucket?
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one of the supplied (should have been anyway) hose clamps. there is not allot to work with there but it does work for mine, a zip tie would suffice as well.
 
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