First Grow Hogs Breath and Bagseed

willRavage

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Ok So It has officially been one week since I planted the germinated seed we know as Venus. She seems to be doing okay, she looks a tad droopy on her big leaves, I didnt water her today, and I wont water her again till tomorrow night, so well see whats up.

Neptune is coming along nicely, I gave her a spray or two of water, I may start very minimal nutes here in a couple days for them both.

Let me know if the slight droop of Venus's leaves are normal plz. :)


First pic is side shot of Both
Second is top of both
Third pic is of Venus
Fourth is of Neptune
 

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joesalamon

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Venus is looks to me like its in bad condition. It looks a lot like my first attempt at growing went, stunted growth, and yellowing and browning of leaves. What kind of soil are you using? Is there any NPK in it? I hope all is well but when my plant looked like yours it was in bad shape :?(

I hope yours is not and it grow fine, but just being cautious for you.
 

willRavage

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Venus is looks to me like its in bad condition. It looks a lot like my first attempt at growing went, stunted growth, and yellowing and browning of leaves. What kind of soil are you using? Is there any NPK in it? I hope all is well but when my plant looked like yours it was in bad shape :?(

I hope yours is not and it grow fine, but just being cautious for you.

Yeah the perlite was miracle grow and has a lil nutes in it, btw the overhead pic was witht he flash on so it looks a lil yellon on the leaves where in fact there is no yellow on it, I was worried about the drooping.
 

willRavage

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Well Venus is looking terrible! I assume too much watering so I am no longer watering her until she perks back up.

I added two more cfls giving me a total of 6400 lumens.

Neptune is growing pretty well.

No watering today.
 

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joesalamon

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There is your problem, you have nutes in your soil!!!! I had like .06 .09 .06 NPK in my original soil and my plants all started out good for the first week and then started to look like yours curling/drooping, yellowing, and then dying leaves. Seedlings can not get any nutes this early and I assume yours are released from the water so you watering it released them and its killing Venus becuae it cant handle them this young.

I may be wrong, but it just looks like such a similar case to mine :(
 

willRavage

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There is your problem, you have nutes in your soil!!!! I had like .06 .09 .06 NPK in my original soil and my plants all started out good for the first week and then started to look like yours curling/drooping, yellowing, and then dying leaves. Seedlings can not get any nutes this early and I assume yours are released from the water so you watering it released them and its killing Venus becuae it cant handle them this young.

I may be wrong, but it just looks like such a similar case to mine :(

Does this mean all hope is lost for both?:cry:
 

joesalamon

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I would get some soil without any nutes in it and transplant them. BUT I could be wrong, its just my educated guess.
 

willRavage

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Well I transplanted both Venus and Neptune into a new grow medium (Perlite and peat moss) since the other medium I was using had time release nutes and was killing them. No pics today, well see how they do.:-|
 

joesalamon

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Wait, did u add soil too? I dont think you can just have perlite and peat moss, you might need more, but i coudl be wrong :)
 

willRavage

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Well Venus still looks the same, bad. Neptune seems to be fine for now, I didn't water them today, just another day of growth. I should get my 400w MH in today.
 

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GrnMan

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Been following your grow, good luck and I hope they don't die.

Did you use CFL's on those girls as soon as they germinated? Or did you leave them buried in the soil in a dark place? Can't seem to find a straight answer on that. I thought they needed to be in the dark for maximum results.
 

willRavage

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Been following your grow, good luck and I hope they don't die.

Did you use CFL's on those girls as soon as they germinated? Or did you leave them buried in the soil in a dark place? Can't seem to find a straight answer on that. I thought they needed to be in the dark for maximum results.

Thanks for following my journal!

Once they germinated I put them under a cfl for 24 hours then switched to a 20/4 light cycle.
 

GrnMan

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Right on, I think it will work either way you do it. Anyways, I got my setup going. I'll ad pics as soon as I find my damn charger!

It's nothing special, I got one 2' grow light with 2 t8's suspended over the plant. And 3 100 watt equivalent soft white/warm white CFL's. One is suspended above the plant and another on the side. I'm running at 78 degrees and 53/54 percent humidity. What are your temps leveling out at?
 

GrnMan

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Hmm, maybe that's one of the problems? I've read that humidity should be at 60-70 percent for veg and 40-60 percent for bloom.
 
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