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rbeez88

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My latest set up!
Media: 75% Soil 25% hydro-ton pebbles
lights: 2 x 600w dual spec on light movers
Fans: 8" extractor connected to rhino filter
4" intake fan
16" Oscillating fan (another standing and floor fan to be added)
Pots: 15litr (approx 3/4 gal)
17 x super cheese cuts
1 x holy grail
7 x delicious fruit

Scrogged 6 plants previously came out with approx 25 oz

Hoping between 72 - 108 oz off this :)
 

pg1210

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Okay men here's my first scrog grow I have included pictures so go easy one me. I have a 4x4 tent with a 600 watt system HID HPS. I also have a 4x4 screen with two inch netting. The plants are in 3 gallon felt bags filled with pro mix. They receive a feed water feed water schedule of fox farm nutes along with some super thrive and h2o2. I adjust the oh to around 6.7 before each watering. Now the strains are g13 Pineapple Express, ch 9 blue cheese, Jamaican monster and critical mass. Now that you know what is going on in the tent I had one question I've read that when a screen is 75% you should flip so I am thinking it is time yes? Also I normally grow outdoors just started indoor but what can I except to yield on this screen? Thanks guys and remember constructive criticisms is always welcome.
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Bumbaclat

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I'm only on day 10 of 12/12 but the pistols are starting to come in clumps. I've read in other scrog threads that you're supposed to stop training when you see that. The strain is supposed to be a short flowerer.








Should I keep training for another 4 days or let them go now? I've got 24" of clearance above the net and my lights are behind glass and fan cooled. This strain is billed as medium height.
 
So I'm starting my first ScOG pretty soon, and while I have done a tone of reading one thing that I haven't seen addressed is whether or not I should use topping techniques with techniques with this method.... Thoughts??? Could use some help from a veteran here.
 

Bumbaclat

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I'm not a veteran but the short answer is: some people do, some don't. It is strain dependent. I'm on my first scrog and topped once but in hind sight I probably wouldn't have. It just slowed growth for a few days and my plants were naturally very bushy.
 

berkman858

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So I'm starting my first ScOG pretty soon, and while I have done a tone of reading one thing that I haven't seen addressed is whether or not I should use topping techniques with techniques with this method.... Thoughts??? Could use some help from a veteran here.
Topping is a good idea because it enhances branching.
 

wheels619

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subbed.

1/2 skunky monkey and 1/2 stank ape 2x3 ft screen 5 plants from seed about a month and a half veg from germ to flower. 4 in 2 gallon smart pots and a single in the center in a 1 gal plastic. tossed the one gal in to fill the center of the 4 smart pots and never thought it would get this far. hoping for 8 oz but we shall see. 4 weeks into flower.
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g13/pineapple express: 1.5 weeks into flower.
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g13/blueberry gum: screen 1.5 weeks into flower.
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wheels619

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looking real nice there wheels i think youll get 8 oz's no prob :D
thanks. im just kinda giving it a good guess. tossed it in under the 1000 for the last 4 weeks or so of flower. had it under a 400 for 3 and a half weeks. but had a bunch of other shit that needed flowering so i powered up the big boy bulb for all of it. :hump:
 

TMAF

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I am Vegging into my first SCROG, I have LST'd and have many branches now reaching through the screen. A few are 3-6 inches below, yet. The screen has ~ 60% canopy through the screen.
Will the strech aid these banches below through the screen? Or do I wait untill they all have reached the screen to flip?
 

wheels619

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I am Vegging into my first SCROG, I have LST'd and have many branches now reaching through the screen. A few are 3-6 inches below, yet. The screen has ~ 60% canopy through the screen.
Will the strech aid these banches below through the screen? Or do I wait untill they all have reached the screen to flip?
some pics of what ur trying to explain would be helpful in trying to give u a solution. there will always be branches and buds that dont go thru the screen. i usually wait till after the 2 week of flower once the stretch is done and anything that doesnt pass high enough thru the screen to get light i remove. including the small little 4 inch ones that may give me a nug or two to smoke. then after the stretch i pull out a grip of fan leaves to open the canopy up a bit. about week 5 or 6 ill remove a lot more fan leaves to open it up even more. hope this helps u a bit.
 

TMAF

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That does help, but does not answer my question.
Will the strech aid these banches below through the screen? Or do I wait untill they all have reached the screen to flip?
With these shorter branches:
Should I cut them for clones now or Later? Should I Flower them now or Later? Can I cut a Clone after the stretch?

Pictures:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/05uljya767z3j43/2012-10-08%2022.25.45.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w8qlem4p4tytfch/2012-10-08%2022.25.57.jpg

What is done with the top cola? I have been laying it under the screen. About 3 nodes with pistils are underneath of the screen. Am I supposed to Stand the top up through the screen?
 

berkman858

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TMAF - You are kind of missing the point of the screen. You want to use it to train your branches outward. Check out these two pics, you can see the progression of growth horizontally instead of vertically. As the branches grow through the screen you will tuck them down under the screen and away from the center of the plant. The purpose is to use more horizontal space instead of vertical and this technique is very good if you have height restrictions which most of us do. I hope this helps a little.


 

wheels619

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That does help, but does not answer my question.
Will the strech aid these banches below through the screen? Or do I wait untill they all have reached the screen to flip?
With these shorter branches:
Should I cut them for clones now or Later? Should I Flower them now or Later? Can I cut a Clone after the stretch?

Pictures:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/05uljya767z3j43/2012-10-08%2022.25.45.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w8qlem4p4tytfch/2012-10-08 22.25.57.jpg

What is done with the top cola? I have been laying it under the screen. About 3 nodes with pistils are underneath of the screen. Am I supposed to Stand the top up through the screen?
what berkman said. i have a pic that will better explain it. sorry i didnt get back to u sooner. ill post some pics after my shower of the 2x3 ft scrog in the beginning so u have an idea of how the tuck and stuff works. u are more or less just using the screen to spread out the branching the way its set up now. instead of using the screen to train ur branches sideways like they should be. also ur screen looks about 4 inches too high. ur going to have to grow it out for probably 3 or 4 more weeks to fill the screen im guessing but the payoff would be worth it. if u can lower the screen a few inches more and pull the branches out sideways. all the nodes once put into flower will stretch above the screen and give u colas. just be careful not to break anything while moving shit around. lol. once u have tucked give it a week to grow upwards again then just tuck everything under the screen again. repeat till ur screen is about 70-80 percent full or what ur comfortable with. then flower it.
 

TMAF

Active Member
I dropped the Screen 4 inches. Looks much better, Thanks.

Do I poke the Main Cola Through the Screen after the stretch, with an L bend?
 

wheels619

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the whole plant should be under the screen. once u put it into flower the stretch will do the rest of the work. the top cola will eventually turn into a bunch of colas creating a sea of green.
 

smoothness

Active Member
hi scroggers. i was planning to do a scrog myself with hawaiian snow and super lemon haze. i am still planning how to build my 4x8 table for the screen. any suggestions? i was either gonna go cedar or pvc. what should i use for the screen? either pvc poultry netting or make a screen by tying rope to the sides of the table and make a net over it and secure with zipties.
 
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