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Hey fellow scrogites, need some advice on training as I'm trying to decide when to flip to 12/12. My pics are posted in my grow journal. The plants are super bushy and compact right now and the are around 10" high. I originally planned to have my screen at 14" high. Should I flip before the get to the screen and just train them during the stretch or do you think I should let them get to the screen and then flip them and do a quick training? Note: my screen is about a foot larger than my table on all sides. I'm a little worried about the kushes, they are soooo dense right now and if try to lst them now they are going to produce even more shoots.

Thanks guys!

Well you know mine is overgrown as hell but if I could go back I'd have flipped them before they hit the screen and trained them during the stretch (which I did but they were already above the screen). Even in the second week they would shoot up an inch or two in a day and required training frequently for the first few weeks of flower, not much now except keep them off one another. Woodsman mentioned LST early on, you aren't past that but it would probably extend the grow a little. I ended up with great bud density but a fairly uneven canopy, on the plus side the buds are looking nice. You're right though, they are crazy dense, did you say you FIM'd them?

yeah, I fimm's them. The co2 and close lights really resulted in dense growth but man oh man, those jack herrer's are the densest plants I've ever seen. Little worried as I have to go out of town for a week today... should probably flip and train but I think I'll just wait till friday when I get home.

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hey all, this is my first time growing indoors and i thought why not go all out and try the scrOG method, ive also been considering to attempt some LST aswell.
so yeh this is my scrOG grow box design, theres a few things missing like drain trays, small circulation fan, and im only growing two plants not three.

the cab consists of one 250w HPS light wich i built myself, one 150mm inline exhaust fan, DIY screen with mesh and random wood lengths, flat white walls with reflective backing, two pots wich im stressing are to small but hopefully someone can help me out on that?
Also the distance between the screen and the lamp is 50cm, at first i was worried it was to close but after some helpful advice from someone else on here i realised it was to far away, can anyone evaluate on this any further??

and plz all let me no wat use think, any advice/critisizem would be hugely appreciated and like i said its my first time growing indoors so any advice would realy go a long way for me, peace out

although its kind of a pain you would gain sooo much by reading the previous posts in this thread. most of your questions will be answered with lots of nice pics.

i would suggest hanging the bulb with a reflector from chains or to adjust the height though.

legallyflying said:

yeah, I fimm's them. The co2 and close lights really resulted in dense growth but man oh man, those jack herrer's are the densest plants I've ever seen. Little worried as I have to go out of town for a week today... should probably flip and train but I think I'll just wait till friday when I get home.

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So I guess there is only one person on this entire thread that has any advice? Not being dick, just saying...

50cm (19.7") is a bit too far for a 250W... Here's a table I found someplace (not mine, credit to original poster) that may help. Keep in mind it does not take into account your reflector "footprint" (the coverage area) or any heat generated by the lamp. Hope it helps!

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ScrogThis said:

50cm (19.7") is a bit too far for a 250W... Here's a table I found someplace (not mine, credit to original poster) that may help. Keep in mind it does not take into account your reflector "footprint" (the coverage area) or any heat generated by the lamp. Hope it helps!

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love that chart

Cool! Here's one for MH

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Same contributor (not mine) I keep saying I'm going to write down where I find these things but... what was I talking about?

ScrogThis said:

50cm (19.7") is a bit too far for a 250W... Here's a table I found someplace (not mine, credit to original poster) that may help. Keep in mind it does not take into account your reflector "footprint" (the coverage area) or any heat generated by the lamp. Hope it helps!

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Kool chart man cheers! Um yeh I've moved the screen ally closer now wich is good cus I'll be able to use bigger pots with the extra room below

Week 1 of Flower, Thanks for the tips guys! Screen a little higher then I'd like but I think my goal will still be accomplished.

looking good someguy.... Are you gonna tie down your tops?

ive got a quickie if anyone can help me out. since im using two 250 hps, how far apart from each other should i space them to get maximium yield ? {=

stacatto99 said:

looking good someguy.... Are you gonna tie down your tops?

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Letting them go natural at this point. Hoping for 10-12 inch colas all above the screen. I will be lolipopping some too, but as high as the screen is I'm afraid to do too much right now.

ive got a quickie if anyone can help me out. since im using two 250 hps, how far apart from each other should i space them to get maximium yield ? {=

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Need more details; what is your setup? how big is the space? what type of reflector(s)?

The light intensity drops sharply the further away the lamp is, 15"-16" is about the max distance for a 250W but closer and the coverage area may be reduced. Set up one lamp with your reflector and measure the intensity at various location/distances to determine the best trade-off between coverage area and intensity of the light. Once you have that info you can place your lamps at the correct distance from one another to keep the light coverage consistent across the grow area. Keep in mind that distance is from the top of the plant, you want to consider how far the light is able to penetrate the canopy as well though the ScrOG method makes that a bit less critical. Hope that helps!

thanks scrogthis. that will be most helpful.

hey can anyone tell me at what node did they topp there plants at for scrOG?

and correct me if im wrong but im thinking that the further the distance between the screen and the pot the more nodes that would be grown before topping?
or is there a certain node u should top the plant at no matter the distance between screen and pot?

Take a look at posts #795 and #865 by Woodsmantoker in this thread, I think the answers you need are in there.