Squidbilly
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I just picked some up today @ the home shitpot
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DrOfWelshMagic
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here's my solution to most bug problems.... works constantly lol
youknowthekid!
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Hot shot no pests strips annihilate all bugs (edit- use them very sparingly, at first sign of bugs). Ive been lucky enough to never see mold or pm, maybe it's due to running a little ozone late in flower.
yktind
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I've read a pretty awful article about those strips. I wouldn't use them if you are constantly close to ur grow room IMO.
The report was something like tying a bunch of these strips around rabbits necks to see if it causes cancer. Luckily the test concluded that they do not cause cancer... Of course all of the rabbits died before any cancer formed. Obviously an extreme but still kinda F-ed up.
youknowthekid!
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Ya the dichlorves or w/e are outlawed in a lot of countries. Definitely a high risk maneuver, but if you can throw them around your grow for 24hrs they'll kill any pest. Then just store it air-tight. My only concern is that they would have a lasting effect on the plants, but that's why I'd only go with natural remedies within the last 3 weeks of a cycle. Always high risk high reward, sucks...
m3d1c1n3man
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i just wonder how many commercial growers use that stuff and worse with no problem at all
charface
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I know a few and they all do.
They dont have time to neem everything once a week and hope it works.
It passes testing and goes to dispensaries.
m3d1c1n3man
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i wonder if they consume their own product.
pesticides shouldn't even be necessary in an ideal grow. all cracks sealed and intake venting through a hepa filter with a "quarantine" zone before the grower entrance.
charface
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Sooner or later it happens.
Yes they consume it.
Like I said it passes lab testing so that is the standard they rise to around here.
It is super hard to perfectly control spores. The more people working in the grow the better chance something will go wrong.
Its comercial farming.
DrOfWelshMagic
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if I have a ladybird in the flower room and I do, would I need to worry about ladybird poop covering the buds??? daft question but just wondering, may need a nanopoopascoopa
m3d1c1n3man
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sounds like a lot of excuses. i'd rather risk the occasional crop going down than have all of my buds contaminated with dangerous chemicals.
i was wondering that same question. however, the ladybird bug shouldn't be pooping if there's nothing to eat, i.e. other pests. but if you're talking about one or two ladybird bugs i can't imagine that being a problem. poop really isn't all that bad necessarily, you can stick your hands in cow shit on the farm and grow mushrooms on it and i saw this hunter on television tasting some fresh poop from various animals to track them, so really, smoking a ladybird bug turd shouldn't be any problem.
charface
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Your very noble.
m3d1c1n3man
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thanks, i think...
DrOfWelshMagic
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haha I love it... cheers for putting me outta my misery
Squidbilly
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Yea if your running a sterile scientific labratory and putting clean coverals on everytime you go in your room. That is unrealistic for the majority of growers. If you never had to battle pm or pests I think it's luck more then anything else.
Squidbilly
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Hope my last post didn't sound stand offish, it wasn't suppose to. I was just commenting that it's really hard to keep a completely sterlie environment-almost impossible, and for most hobbist growers preventative is required to be succesful.
Squidbilly
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So I think I mentioned that I picked up some neem-oil up at the home shitpot. The brand was Bayer, like aspirin. I sprayed as soon as the lights went off and I manually turned my lights on the next morning so I could make sure it was dry. Well it still caused some burning : / Nothing bad, but I have to look at it. Just a warning if anyone decides to use this stuff-I've used neem plenty of times and never had this problem.
yktind
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I have never burned my plants with the Einstein Neem. Add a drop of dish soap and spray away. Although, have clogged a shit load of sprayers though.
Now I am all about preventive maintenance and use Azamax all through Veg and do a preemptive bug bomb right before flowering (Both of which are OMNI approved... If that actually means anything). Trying to fight them during flower is a losing battle. You end just chasing your tail around in circles.
Squidbilly
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It was a warning about the Bayer brand neem I found at home shitpot, not neem oil in general. Neem is a great product when used appropriately and correctly.
I've used neem before with no issues. In all honesty I used it straight from the bottle, as per the instructions and I did it really late at night after a very long trip to pick up a couple mother plants from a friend who was moving. I was tired and cut corners and I paid the price. Where I am located the only hydro store is approx a 2.5hr drive and as you can imagine I don't like to waste trips out there. Neem is on my list for next time I go but I figured the Bayer is a quality(maybe evil, though) compay so I gave it a shot. Next time I will dilute it and use soap like I always do.
Azamax-i've been hearing that word tossed around a lot, I'm going to look into it.