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youknowthekid!
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Ask questions. For one, get more light on those, they have a ton of potential.
Dude, righteous canopy to have after stretch, realllll nice.
DrOfWelshMagic
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that's gonna be picture in 5 weeks or so mate... congrats!!!! looking great.
m3d1c1n3man
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DAMN that filled in nicely.
Squidbilly
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It's going to take a lot of convincing to make me believe it's bad to remove leaves, I always tell people to look at people doing scrog and maximizing their space indoors. I'd rather have a screen of coals then a bunch a fan leaves anyday. Looking AWESOME
DrOfWelshMagic
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this is my problem, what to do about it? I don't wanna end up with 100 x 9" colas of leafiness. If I knew for sure that much leaf removal wouldn't stress or damage her, id rape the fuck outta her tonight and post the pics to prove it lol
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Squidbilly
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Hey Dr., I wouldn't rape anything-just cause plants can't say no doesn't mean yes!
Seriously, post some pics of what you got. I slowly remove leaves over time, if you LST like me I'm not sure how you would grow and NOT remove any leaves-my plants would look like cabbage!
This is my first scrog, but far from my first grow.
If it's hitting or blocking a budsite/cola then remove it. The idea is to have a screen of colas not leaves, that being said I only remove what I have too. I would say that while im in veg a day rarely goes by that I don't remove at least 1 leaf.
Seriously, post some pics of what you got. I slowly remove leaves over time, if you LST like me I'm not sure how you would grow and NOT remove any leaves-my plants would look like cabbage!
This is my first scrog, but far from my first grow.
If it's hitting or blocking a budsite/cola then remove it. The idea is to have a screen of colas not leaves, that being said I only remove what I have too. I would say that while im in veg a day rarely goes by that I don't remove at least 1 leaf.
DrOfWelshMagic
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Seriously, post some pics of what you got. I slowly remove leaves over time, if you LST like me I'm not sure how you would grow and NOT remove any leaves-my plants would look like cabbage!
This is my first scrog, but far from my first grow.
If it's hitting or blocking a budsite/cola then remove it. The idea is to have a screen of colas not leaves, that being said I only remove what I have too. I would say that while im in veg a day rarely goes by that I don't remove at least 1 leaf.[/QUOTE]
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youknowthekid!
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I would say start by removing the fans that are hanging off by a 1"+ stem; I've gotten the impression that those focus more on chute development than bud sites. When you remove them just pinch halfway down the stem leading to the leaf- supposedly this triggers a better response than cutting. Leave the fans that are connected directly to main chutes without much stem at all.View attachment 3138880
this is my problem, what to do about it? I don't wanna end up with 100 x 9" colas of leafiness. If I knew for sure that much leaf removal wouldn't stress or damage her, id rape the fuck outta her tonight and post the pics to prove it lol
Your canopy can't be dense enough if it's 1000w, if that's a 600 you can get away with a little defoliation, but take it slow man! You can always take off more layers, just like momma used to say!!
Very nice growth though!
DrOfWelshMagic
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thanks dude, its a 600w m8. I have been randomly removing individual leaves from nearer the net than the top of the canopy, all of them seem to be over an inch long and they're everywhere... overlapping each other, etc. she looks beautiful but I just know there could/should be more light getting through the canopy. the light is 13" above the canopy (21" from net)
Squidbilly
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If your environment is dialed and you don't have huge swings in temp AND humidity a dense canopy shouldn't be a problem. But, having such a dense canopy could lead to problems-just like any over crowded grow. Colas that are getting blocked a little by leaves may either stretch or stay small.
The trick is to strategically remove leaves as needed to keep your canopy even.
Sometimes I remove leaves to slow a plant down so others can catch up. It's a subtle dance and every strain responds differently. You always have to weigh the cost to benefit.
If you have leaves stacked ontop of each other and your noticing 'wet spots' where they were overlaping, then it's time for a trim, IMO.
The trick is to strategically remove leaves as needed to keep your canopy even.
Sometimes I remove leaves to slow a plant down so others can catch up. It's a subtle dance and every strain responds differently. You always have to weigh the cost to benefit.
If you have leaves stacked ontop of each other and your noticing 'wet spots' where they were overlaping, then it's time for a trim, IMO.
Squidbilly
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Remember-air flow is crucial! Not only are plants crowded in a scrog, the screen/canopy really restricts air movement. Make sure you have good air circulation below AND above your canopy to avoid issues like pests and pm. Sometimes taking a few leaves helps with this as well.
Since you have a 600w, I would recommend removing some leaves starting with any that are directly blocking budsites or smaller colas. Then I would remove any that are really overlaping each other-leaves shouldn't be laying ontop of each other, it will create moisture and a perfect breeding ground for powdery mildew(good circulation helps prevent this too)
Since you have a 600w, I would recommend removing some leaves starting with any that are directly blocking budsites or smaller colas. Then I would remove any that are really overlaping each other-leaves shouldn't be laying ontop of each other, it will create moisture and a perfect breeding ground for powdery mildew(good circulation helps prevent this too)
DrOfWelshMagic
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ok, then its time for a trim, I have many overlapping wet spots... will put up pic post trim later. thanks again dude.
Squidbilly
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Maybe someone else might want to chime in on this, but I try to avoid as many of those 'wet spots' where the leaves overlap as possible.
I've also been know to remove blades from leaves instead of the entire thing. Like I said, a day rarely goes by that I don't pluck at least one leaf.
I've also been know to remove blades from leaves instead of the entire thing. Like I said, a day rarely goes by that I don't pluck at least one leaf.
youknowthekid!
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Squids right, definitely NO wet spots. Generally I'll have no more than 3 fans in one vertical pillar, touching or not. At 3 nice healthy fans in one vertical sample you're losing no par and still maintain good airflow. Think 3 fans, going about 1' vertical across the whole canopy will create a nice layered variation, with good air flow and max light absorption. That still ONLY includes the bigger fans connected by stems. IMO leave everything directly connected to bud sites and chop them at crop.
Defol. definitely good to handle stretch too.
Defol. definitely good to handle stretch too.
m3d1c1n3man
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well the leaves absorb light and contribute it to the bud so i would be hesitant about removing any leaves unless it's just super crowded. you'll notice the plant will actually remove it's own leaves when it sees fit by draining the resources from them and letting them wilt and fall off. i would not want to cut the fan leaf off a large kola site just to expose a smaller one. you can often just move the leaf to expose the kola.
