Economy Is Improving

dukeanthony · Nov 24, 2011

Willyßagseed;6675096 said:
Good non union factory and warehouse jobs were paying $12.00 an hour in 1982........... union was $15-$17.00
WTF , $12.00 /hour in 2011...lol???

And righties wonder why some people are all pissed off......

keeping in mind insane CEO pay and/or inflation, minimum wage should be somewhere between $13.50 and $17.00 an hour (depends on which formula you want to use, minimum wage being starting pay for unskilled labor)

But we can't pay fair wages to the regular guy now can we, we would need to charge too much for our products for anybody to afford..... oh hell no, I refuse to lower upper management pay and pay a fair blue collar rate to keep our prices the same.

Really really good factory jobs were paying 7.50 an hour in 1982
http://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.html
average salaries for workers in 1982 were 14,500 ayear

dukeanthony · Nov 24, 2011

And Maine never had any jobs. I lived in Bath

WillyBagseed · Nov 24, 2011

dukeanthony said:
Really really good factory jobs were paying 7.50 an hour in 1982
http://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.html
average salaries for workers in 1982 were 14,500 ayear

When I got out of the USAF in 1984 I took a non union warehouse/ forklift driver job at $15.85 an hour (jammer driver exp. in USAF) , the starting wage for the same job no exp was $13.55. This was in Colorado. I found this job thru a friend who worked there and started at $12.00 an hour in 1980-81.

Factory jobs doing what? My best friend worked at a non union corrugated box factory (cardboard boxes) making over $10.00 hr to start at the same time (1980-81).

The 3 of us went to HS together, they went into these jobs, I joined them after my 4 years in USAF.

Your link appears to be the national average wage.. period... that does not represent factory / warehouse jobs average but ALL jobs average.

Side note joke: If you dirty rat bastards in Maine had stayed part of the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts you might be doing better...... =)

RyanTheRhino · Nov 24, 2011

Willyßagseed;6677912 said:
When I got out of the USAF in 1984 I took a non union warehouse/ forklift driver job at $15.85 an hour (jammer driver exp. in USAF) , the starting wage for the same job no exp was $13.55. This was in Colorado. I found this job thru a friend who worked there and started at $12.00 an hour in 1980-81.

Factory jobs doing what? My best friend worked at a non union corrugated box factory (cardboard boxes) making over $10.00 hr to start at the same time (1980-81).

The 3 of us went to HS together, they went into these jobs, I joined them after my 4 years in USAF.

Your link appears to be the national average wage.. period... that does not represent factory / warehouse jobs average but ALL jobs average.

Side note joke: If you dirty rat bastards in Maine had stayed part of the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts you might be doing better...... =)

why would you want Maine?? nothing but lobsters and snow up there.

wow Maine is 98% white...

spandy · Nov 24, 2011

RyanTheRhino said:
wow Maine is 98% white...

and they have one of the lowest crime ratings in the nation. Must be a coincidental.

dukeanthony · Nov 24, 2011

spandy said:
and they have one of the lowest crime ratings in the nation. Must be a coincidental.

Maine is one of the Poorest states in the USA

And except for a couple of cities
Its all trees

WillyBagseed · Nov 24, 2011

Maine is also the only state you can sell Cannabis and not be charged with a felony. (up to 1 pound is a misdemeanor and so is growing up to 99 plants)

http://norml.org/laws/me

Trees are good, I mean that is why we are all here on RUI isn't it? ....... For the Trees ??? =)

Hope everybody had a great Thanksgiving and for those of you who do not celebrate it .... hope you had a great Thursday... lol

dukeanthony · Nov 24, 2011

Willyßagseed;6680279 said:
Maine is also the only state you can sell Cannabis and not be charged with a felony. (up to 1 pound is a misdemeanor and so is growing up to 99 plants)

http://norml.org/laws/me

Trees are good, I mean that is why we are all here on RUI isn't it? ....... For the Trees ??? =)

Hope everybody had a great Thanksgiving and for those of you who do not celebrate it .... hope you had a great Thursday... lol

Cant get there from here

maineyankee · Nov 25, 2011

I guess I started a MaineThang by posting on here.... You can get here from there, especially after Obama will sign the Transportation bill that is in front of him that now will allow 100K trucks to start rolling over I-95 again. It's only for 20 years, but that will put us back on the playing field with the rest of New England and other states. Vermont is also included in this bill that was Co-authored by Susie Q Collins.

As for Bath never having any jobs, you must have lived off the waterfront as BIW is one of the largest employers here in the states. You prolly never travelled to your sister town of Brunswick, where there was until last year, a big ol Naval Base that empoyed a large number of civilians, and had also a good trickle of income from the guys on the weekends.

Yes, we do live amongst the trees, and even those are dwindling since we have some people that cannot stay warm, and go into the woods and do some clear cutting to stay warm. For those people, I turn the other way, because I am sick and tired of hearing about Big Biz and their developments. We are a hearty bunch up here that do not mind the snow ... and those that do go south for the wintah. We call them "snowbirds".

The City of Portland recently told the Chief of Police to set up a task force. He did. His reportinmg came back that there are 20 different gangs doing business as usual here in Portland. Imagine that !! Why are they coming up here? We only have trees, and are 98% white. I would think that someone of a different skin color would kind of stand out here in the snowland. (In which we received Wednesday a whopping 10 inches of the crap).

I love Maine and will do what I need to do to protect it. I will just sign off qith the following article that came out in today's paper.

Congressman Michaud wants to use report to help draft bill to boost industry
By Erin Rhoda[email protected]
Staff Writer

Over the last 20 years, Maine has lost 42 percent of its manufacturing jobs, shrinking from 89,900 workers in January 1991 to 51,800 workers in January of this year.

The recession has contributed to the losses in Maine's manufacturing sector. From December 2007 to June 2009, Maine lost 12.5 percent of its manufacturing workforce.
Despite the discouraging trend, fewer manufacturers anticipate they will lay off workers this year, compared to last year.

These are some details laid out in a report released Tuesday by U.S. Rep. Michael Michaud, D-2nd District. The report is based on the results of a survey in which 85 Maine manufacturers participated.

Michaud said that he will use the report to draft legislation to address specific concerns raised in the survey.
"Despite some troubles in the sector, Maine manufacturers appear to be as resilient as ever. With the right focus and policies, we can capitalize on our manufacturing sector's strength and help it grow and create jobs," Michaud said in a news release.

Specifically, 14 businesswomen and 71 businessmen responded. Thirty-three percent represented services or retail industries, and 26 percent represented precision manufacturing. The others included equipment manufacturers, process manufacturers, metal fabrication companies, plastics companies and several businesses in agriculture, woodworking, textiles and wine making or brewing.

Of those surveyed, an overwhelming majority of 67 percent said they were strongly rooted in the state and do not plan to move their business. Eighteen percent said they were rooted in Maine but had considered leaving. Six companies, or 7 percent, said they will move when the time is right.
About 13 percent of respondents said they would lay off workers this year. That number is an improvement from last year, however, when 27 percent of the survey participants laid off employees.

In addition, more than half of the manufacturers, at 58 percent, said they would maintain their workforce, and 28 percent said they would hire more workers. More than half said their profitability for this year would either stay the same or increase from 2010 to 2011.

Just because a company wants to hire more workers, however, does not mean they are able to find people with the necessary skills, according to the report. More than half of respondents, at 56 percent, said it was either difficult or very difficult to find qualified candidates to fill vacancies.

They recommended that high schools, vocational schools and community colleges connect better with businesses to help train students for manufacturing jobs.
The manufacturing sector provides many jobs to military veterans, according to the survey. About 56 percent of those surveyed said they employ veterans, and many said they do so because of their training.

One company said, "veteran employees are highly skilled and usually have a very strong work ethic." Another said veterans "come with good training, skills and discipline."
Maine has the third largest number of veterans as a percentage of the population, according to the report. More than 10 percent of Mainers have served in the military.
The unemployment rate among veterans is increasing, and is now higher than the non-veteran unemployment rate, according to 2011data from the Maine Department of Labor.

According to the report, businesses said they are most worried about health care costs, government regulation and taxes. Only 16 percent of manufacturers surveyed contract with the federal government. Those that do not cited red tape as the primary reason why.

dukeanthony · Nov 25, 2011

Oh I never Said Bath Didnt have any jobs
And i am VERY familiar with BIW

Best thing about Maine in my opinion is carry in Clubs

And no I never Been to Brunswick

But i spent a lot of time in Lewiston and Portland

Parker · Nov 27, 2011

dukeanthony said:
gloop glop gleep

More copy and paste from the idiot. How many people do you think are applying for those jobs? Just one? I bet you probably think that you mindless douchebag.

dirtysnowball · Nov 27, 2011

I dont know man, the news seems to be one sided, they're afraid to say recesion where i live. they keepsaying "is this a reccesion?"

heres how i can tell when the economy is impoving. its recovering when; I, my mom, my two uncles, my three cuzin can find a job easily again. its still pretty impossible to get a job here in Sacramento California, BUT we are the 2nd hardest hit state in the bad economy. and are neiboring city(stockton) is in the top 5 for worst economic cities.

Parker · Nov 27, 2011

dirtysnowball said:
I dont know man, the news seems to be one sided, they're afraid to say recesion where i live. they keepsaying "is this a reccesion?"

heres how i can tell when the economy is impoving. its recovering when; I, my mom, my two uncles, my three cuzin can find a job easily again. its still pretty impossible to get a job here in Sacramento California, BUT we are the 2nd hardest hit state in the bad economy. and are neiboring city(stockton) is in the top 5 for worst economic cities.

You nailed it. All these liars in government trying to tell you things are getting better for a vote. They've lied in the past, they'll lie in the future.
Many do not understand economics yet they'll tell you what's best. The same ones who created this mess and we should rely on them? Only you, yourself, know what's best for you.

maineyankee · Nov 27, 2011

dirtysnowball said:
I dont know man, the news seems to be one sided, they're afraid to say recesion where i live. they keepsaying "is this a reccesion?"

heres how i can tell when the economy is impoving. its recovering when; I, my mom, my two uncles, my three cuzin can find a job easily again. its still pretty impossible to get a job here in Sacramento California, BUT we are the 2nd hardest hit state in the bad economy. and are neiboring city(stockton) is in the top 5 for worst economic cities.

The old addage is this ... The difference between recession and depression ... "Recession is when I am working, and you are not ... Depression is when both of us are out of work."

I agree that no one wants to use either word. They want someone else to be the scapegoat and blame them for the economy. We have become a service industry nation, with hardly any manufacturing jobs. With that being said and with no disrespect, manufacturing jobs had an array of people with different calibers ... some people were good cutting the heads off chickens, while others did not ... Everyone, no matter what grade level they had, was offered a job in a plant. Those are now gone, and thus those people, along with others are now on the unemployment line.

The MaineYankee :-)

Hemlock · Nov 27, 2011

I think Dukeanothy is about 18 and loves Obama so much he just believes everything he says.

dukeanthony · Nov 27, 2011

dirtysnowball said:
I dont know man, the news seems to be one sided, they're afraid to say recesion where i live. they keepsaying "is this a reccesion?"

heres how i can tell when the economy is impoving. its recovering when; I, my mom, my two uncles, my three cuzin can find a job easily again. its still pretty impossible to get a job here in Sacramento California, BUT we are the 2nd hardest hit state in the bad economy. and are neiboring city(stockton) is in the top 5 for worst economic cities.

Harrekin · Nov 27, 2011

Does your tiny list of vacancies match job losses or is there still net unemployment?

Or are you just a copy/paste wizard?

dukeanthony · Nov 27, 2011

Harrekin said:
Does your tiny list of vacancies match job losses or is there still net unemployment?

Or are you just a copy/paste wizard?

There is net Gains in Employment. We aint shedding 3/4 of a million jobs a month

Now i could back all this up with a copy and paste
But you would complain about that also

What you need to worry about is Irelands Junk Bond status and its real unemployment due to austerity that isnt going to help the Fact that no one wants to Loan you any money
Because they Believe YOUR economy is an illusion and still sucks

Harrekin · Nov 27, 2011

dukeanthony said:
There is net Gains in Employment. We aint shedding 3/4 of a million jobs a month

Now i could back all this up with a copy and paste
But you would complain about that also

What you need to worry about is Irelands Junk Bond status and its real unemployment due to austerity that isnt going to help the Fact that no one wants to Loan you any money
Because they Believe YOUR economy is an illusion and still sucks

Yeah because 1.7% growth for the second quarter of this year is an economy that sucks

(Yours was 1% btw, and we're undertaking austerity measures)

And our unemployment rate is dropping.

Guess you should just go back to copy/paste, cos you just keep repeating the same crap without actually understanding what you're talking about.

But it's ok, 3 into the 4 years of "Hope" and "Yes we can" and your country is a bigger mess than ever...keep bent over for Obama

dukeanthony · Nov 27, 2011

Harrekin said:
Yeah because 1.7% growth for the second quarter of this year is an economy that sucks

And our unemployment rate is dropping.

Guess you should just go back to copy/paste, cos you just keep repeating the same crap without actually understanding what you're talking about.

But it's ok, 3 into the 4 years of "Hope" and "Yes we can" and your country is a bigger mess than ever...keep bent over for Obama

Awesome
Because Even Revised down our Growth rate is 2% and we are Not going up in unemployment. Since there has been job growth for the last 16 months
and on top of that

Our Bond rating isnt rated JUNK Like your countries

Economy Is Improving

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