DWC Root Slime Cure aka How to Breed Beneficial Microbes

wow! 48 buckets. I have 6 down from 12 and they still leak a bit. How did you connect them? I used Uniseals. OK, till the bucket gets shoved out line doing maintenance.

The pics.....I can't tell need regular light and flash for true color. I have found with buckets, circulation in the bucket means uneven feeding for the larger root masses. I've put divert vanes at the input side in each bucket to cause a swirl in the water.

Hope it works out. I just lost the chiller motherboard. Under warranty, but at least a week for the part. Res was 81 this AM before ice.

All Hail, Res Tea!
I attach my buckets with hydrofarm 1 inch tubing to 1 inch connectors, with hose clamps at every connection. It's costly, but the only way to insure no leaks.

I will be taking more clear pics also, they definitely look like they were taken with a potato. Right now, the plants are actually growing and very healthy looking, with new white thick root shoots coming off the older roots. I suspect after my res change I might have put in some dirty RO water from the air conditioners that smelled super stale and like dust. I think that may have brought on some pythium.
 

Doer

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Damn Pythium :)

My new chiller just threw an E2...bad motherboard. Warranty part.

So, just more ice and more tea for a week at least.
 
Damn Pythium :)

My new chiller just threw an E2...bad motherboard. Warranty part.

So, just more ice and more tea for a week at least.
Happened to a few of my chillers, I don't even bother with the warranty, they are horrible with customer service.

I usually just run to the hydro store, buy a new one :) Can't afford downtime bruh!
 

Hettyman

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OK, so here are my nasty brown roots. Haven't been using any beneficials, and organic nutes. This is my first DWC (or any hydro) and the guy at the hydro shop neglected to mention beneficials and not using organics.

I have found this which seems to have all but the AF micro's. Do you think with regular res changes and using this, I'll be able to get my plant through the 8 week flower, or is that slime gonna run riot?

http://www.growforce.co.uk/ghe/biolinkplus.html

It's a 10litre pot, about 3 weeks veg, used Biogrow and Hesi Power Zyme so far
 

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Doer

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Happened to a few of my chillers, I don't even bother with the warranty, they are horrible with customer service.

I usually just run to the hydro store, buy a new one :) Can't afford downtime bruh!
Well this is EcoPlus. Sunlight Supply. I just called a local number and he didn't even ask for the serial number. That tells me, being in the computer business for many years, they already know. :)

Order on Weds, says it will be here today. I'm busting through a lot of frozen jugs I have ready....just in case.

It is such a simple deal, a water chiller. Really only that motherboard will go wrong. Parts is parts. :)

I think I will get another chiller just like this one. Plumb them both inline. And then either one can handle the entire load when one fails.
 

Lemon king

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i read the 1st page. i was typing aloud lol. however it has intrigued me, maybe i could replace my nutes with this, pissing on them aint worked so far.
 

Doer

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Well, to catch you up. This is about talking the special ben's that cost a penny apiece, practically :) (not that bad)
...and instead of just adding them,each week, retail rate, in IN-organic Hydroponics. Then brewing, or technically, blooming them by feeding molasses.
 

Ickyness

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Hey guys, checking back in. My previous pythium battle has been dominated. However, that was only the veg table. Now that I am using a separate (and slightly different) bucket for bloom, the problem has returned again, but only in that bucket.

I've read through every page of this thead by now, and it's been a week or two since I've been back, but am I correct in recalling that it's okay to add both ZHO powder and aquashield directly to my temporary bucket (it has just distilled water) while I brew a fresh batch of tea?
 

Doer

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Hey guys, checking back in. My previous pythium battle has been dominated. However, that was only the veg table. Now that I am using a separate (and slightly different) bucket for bloom, the problem has returned again, but only in that bucket.

I've read through every page of this thead by now, and it's been a week or two since I've been back, but am I correct in recalling that it's okay to add both ZHO powder and aquashield directly to my temporary bucket (it has just distilled water) while I brew a fresh batch of tea?
That's what I do.
 

kelpertson

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Okay I just ordered the soluble bennie/fungi mixture. I have a bag of worm castings that have been in my possession for 3-5 years. For 6 months or so they were kept in a hot summer time garage.


Do these worm castings still contain enough or any beneficial bacteria/fungi? Do they survive in these conditions?
 

Ickyness

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Concerning the air stones and lava rocks:

Is it important to use fresh rocks each brew, or can the same rocks be used over and over each brew?

The air stones that I use for my tea brewing get rinsed off each time, but on my 3rd brew now it smells faintly gross. Do they need to be peroxide sanitized and/or replaced for each brew?
 

Doer

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Concerning the air stones and lava rocks:

Is it important to use fresh rocks each brew, or can the same rocks be used over and over each brew?

The air stones that I use for my tea brewing get rinsed off each time, but on my 3rd brew now it smells faintly gross. Do they need to be peroxide sanitized and/or replaced for each brew?
I made a box of lava rock, to house the bens in the water, but too much. Maybe 1/8 of a shoe box size. It really was the screen wire, not the rocks that brewed a stinking mess. So, this stuff will grow on anything especially the air stones.

What I do is wash everything, each time with tap water. I use my palms to wipe it deeply in the running water. That works fine long term.
You may need a plastic brush and some H2O2, by now.
 

Ickyness

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Is there anything wrong with brewing a fresh batch of tea every three days and using the initial inoculation amounts (3 cups per 10gal) instead of just using the 1 cup per 10gal amount? Would that lead to bad things or just simply be more than enough?

EDIT: I'm also thinking that I should be fine in my size res to just use my four air stones for bennie housing goodness.
EDIT 2: If that's the case, then would it be a bad idea to just keep using the air stones without cleaning them? could that ever brew something nasty?
 

Doer

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Is there anything wrong with brewing a fresh batch of tea every three days and using the initial inoculation amounts (3 cups per 10gal) instead of just using the 1 cup per 10gal amount? Would that lead to bad things or just simply be more than enough?

EDIT: I'm also thinking that I should be fine in my size res to just use my four air stones for bennie housing goodness.
EDIT 2: If that's the case, then would it be a bad idea to just keep using the air stones without cleaning them? could that ever brew something nasty?
Good thinking process. Bens die in the the pond. We are not feeding them. So, that stuff living on your air stones may not be Bens.

I tried 3 gals a week of Bens and fridged and added, etc. But, it seems too much. Get's stinky.

So now I brew to waste, as it were.

What's wrong with throwing on the yard, and the bushes, 1/2 the Bens production?
 

Ickyness

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Yeah, I can't ever get my tea to store well either. I just brew a fresh batch 2 out of every three days. It smells glorious in my res now though. I just took a trip out to a place in the wilderness and that's exactly how the moss smells out there. With these results, and the fact that I'm still using less raw material than if I followed the directions, brewing a fresh batch often is hard to resist.

And yeah, I totally go throw that stuff in a compost pile with grass clippings and all my sad cucumber plants. :(
 

Doer

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Im using a Hempy(ish) system with all perlite this round, and am wondering if this will work for me? The system is modeled after this system: https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/570843-flowamastas-methodology-how-grow-monster.html . I get slime forming in my Return/Feed lines. I cant check roots because I'm growing in Perlite. I assume it's there though. Will the tea help at all?
Well Hempy is drain to waste as i understand it. And if you are using synthetic nutes not organic then yes, it will help.

I don't know if there is a soil runnoff test for Pythium. Worth checking. I see hemp as sort of ebb and flood in reverse.

Sort of a flood through, idea?
 
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