UnderCurrentDWC
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Hey lantern theres been some changes to the formula sinse the start, i use 1) humbolt myco madness 2) worm castings
3) molassis and lots of air
What was the reason for leaving the ZHO out now? redundant?
Hey lantern theres been some changes to the formula sinse the start, i use 1) humbolt myco madness 2) worm castings
3) molassis and lots of air
Heisengerg?
If you now recommend Mycogrow soluble in place of aquashield which is a liquid, how much of the powder should I be applying to your original 2 gallon recipe?
Thank you for all your time and dedication to this subject, I'll be starting a UC system and will be using your tea from the start.
UCDWC~
What was the reason for leaving the ZHO out now? redundant?
hey farkface (that is a funny ass name BTW), I think I ran into a little trouble just sort of throwing amounts in there. Not so much the myco's and worm castings, but adding too much molasses may lead to problems... because its essentially crack for all microorganisms, both good and bad.
If I recall correctly, two scoops of myco, two hand fulls of castings, and a tablespoon of molasses was what my amounts were for a 5 gallon mix. I also added one ML of cold pressed kelp but that is not necessary.
Thanks for the replies. If that 1lb jar of Myco is indeed the right stuff, why is it so much cheaper than fungi.com? They charge ~5 bucks for the oz, and the 1lb is 60-70 bucks depending on which type. So if that 1lb for 7 bucks is indeed correct, that's great.
The plants are 2 weeks old now. There is no slime in the buckets because we ran a fish net through pretty much all of them. However there is still slime residue on the bottom of all the net pots. We have got a tea brewing in a 5 gallon bucket composed of SubCulture-B and Mykos. Just wondering if I were to pour a good amount of stuff in there into the hydroton if it would get rid of that slime completely, or if it would harm them. Maybe that slime isnt even enough to do harm? I don't know, thats why I'm asking you guys.
Another thing, after 2 weeks of vegging, do you guys think these plants should be a bit bigger? Thanks.
EDIT: Ok tell me what you guys think of this. To rid the net pots and hydroton of all the slime completely (since there is damn near none in the buckets), we figure we are going to take out the clones replace the hydroton and completely clean out the net pots as good as we can. My friend who is an expert grower came over and I explained to him everything we had done and he said the only other conclusion he could come to is that our pump (750GPH) isnt good enough for a 117 gallon res, and that we should get at LEAST a 1500GPH pump because that slime is most likely due to sitting water. Let me know if any of these sound right to you guys. Thanks.
hey heis,
you seem to have lots of knowledge on the matter of battling this awful slime in dwc. i was wondering why nobody has tried or suggested any natural fungicides. i use sm90 which is coriander & canola oils. many use or recommend sm90 in the res but forget its also a great foliar spray for pest & molds or whatever. we all use neem as an organic pesticide & as a fungicide but primarily as a foliar spray. what about using neem in the res? there are plenty of products like organocide which is sesame & fish oils. another great example is sns 244 fungicide made of 100% thyme extract. makes me think why not. your opionion on the matter is appreciated
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The plants are 2 weeks old now. There is no slime in the buckets because we ran a fish net through pretty much all of them. However there is still slime residue on the bottom of all the net pots. We have got a tea brewing in a 5 gallon bucket composed of SubCulture-B and Mykos. Just wondering if I were to pour a good amount of stuff in there into the hydroton if it would get rid of that slime completely, or if it would harm them. Maybe that slime isnt even enough to do harm? I don't know, thats why I'm asking you guys.
Another thing, after 2 weeks of vegging, do you guys think these plants should be a bit bigger? Thanks.
EDIT: Ok tell me what you guys think of this. To rid the net pots and hydroton of all the slime completely (since there is damn near none in the buckets), we figure we are going to take out the clones replace the hydroton and completely clean out the net pots as good as we can. My friend who is an expert grower came over and I explained to him everything we had done and he said the only other conclusion he could come to is that our pump (750GPH) isnt good enough for a 117 gallon res, and that we should get at LEAST a 1500GPH pump because that slime is most likely due to sitting water. Let me know if any of these sound right to you guys. Thanks.
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The plants are 2 weeks old now. There is no slime in the buckets because we ran a fish net through pretty much all of them. However there is still slime residue on the bottom of all the net pots. We have got a tea brewing in a 5 gallon bucket composed of SubCulture-B and Mykos. Just wondering if I were to pour a good amount of stuff in there into the hydroton if it would get rid of that slime completely, or if it would harm them. Maybe that slime isnt even enough to do harm? I don't know, thats why I'm asking you guys.
Another thing, after 2 weeks of vegging, do you guys think these plants should be a bit bigger? Thanks.
EDIT: Ok tell me what you guys think of this. To rid the net pots and hydroton of all the slime completely (since there is damn near none in the buckets), we figure we are going to take out the clones replace the hydroton and completely clean out the net pots as good as we can. My friend who is an expert grower came over and I explained to him everything we had done and he said the only other conclusion he could come to is that our pump (750GPH) isnt good enough for a 117 gallon res, and that we should get at LEAST a 1500GPH pump because that slime is most likely due to sitting water. Let me know if any of these sound right to you guys. Thanks.
the slime still left behind on your netpots might be the 'after-slime' left behind. its basically a benign/dead slime. it wont go away for the rest of the grow but it shouldnt have any problems as long as you maintain proper res conditions and fully inoculate with the tea, by pouring it over all of the hydroton. as heisenberg said, lots of people try adding more O2. 1-watt per gallon is a good way to judge air pump sizing. legallyflying also mentioned that hydroton is not light tight... he is right, it can bounce some light down those couple inches and give the rez a constant supply of faint light.
I dont quite understand what 1w per gallon means? We have a 117 gal res, 8000w of light, and a water pump that does 750 GPH(over 8 buckets). I noticed that the water doesnt really move when you take the air stones out there is very little movement in the water, if not none. Me and my buds are thinking about getting a 3k-4k GPH pump to help the water circulation.
As far as pouring the "tea" that we brewed into the hydroton, the tea we have is not the tea that is talked about in the first post. We have Mykos and Subculture-B brewing in a 5 gallon bucket with an air stone thats been sitting in it for a little more than a day now. We are going to pour it in probably in a few hours and I'll update you guys on how that works out. If that doesnt work we are definently buying a pump because my buddy told me it HAS to be the pump. Tell me what you think about this. Thanks.
I'm actually putting quite a bit more air into my system. I can't remember the watts but I have two commercial pumps putting out 110L/Min (1650 gallons/hour) for a total of 3300 gallons/hour. These are bubbling in 12 4 gallon buckets that have around 3 gallons of water in them. Basically every hour I am pushing 91 gallons of air through one gallon of water as opposed to tylerdurden's 26 per gallon/per hour.
Hmmm. maybe I need to look at things as I am putting 400% more air through the system? I will say that my roots are fucking exploding though...like mega. They are in week 3 of veg and about half the bucket is full of roots. 1/2 to a 1/3 anyways.