Durban Poison... what’s the truth? And is it worth it?

Yodaweed said:
https://denverclonestore.com/denver-clone-store-difference/

Denver dam / the clone store has Durb Poison

Make sure to treat clones for mites.
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I suggest a separate quarantine area with no shared space with a clean grow. Even from friends you never know. I have never had a bad infestation of anything except seasonal crap like caterpillars when I'm growing outside. Knock on wood. Even though my grow is clean I suggest to people they quarantine clones or plants from me. Better safe than sorry etc.
 
TackYouCack! said:
L'Eagle in Denver should have Durban Poison clones. No idea if they're any good but I've seen them on the menu for a couple months now.
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That's where i got mu durban nug from about a week ago- pretty good stuff! They didn't have any DP clones out when i went (just Blue Dream and Sour D), so i didn't even ask. I think I'll call and ask though! :)
 
Dr. Who said:
Durban

Breeding with the Durban is done with hand selected phenos that have been passed or traded back and forth for awhile.

Yet, now and then. Someone does the whole thing over again to produce things like Cookies strains and happily, The strains that cookies has produced it's self...

Buying a pack of Durban beans, and getting that over 30% pheno out of what? 10 beans? Good fucking luck! The strain it's self is nice and has good potency.


More strains then you think, owe their potency to Durban somewhere in it's past.
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Durban is there but I think other sativa's like Colombian, Mexican, and some other South American sativa's are more integrated in today's hybrids. But let's not forget about the Thai sativa's which are all over the hybrid map.

With Indica's, Pakistani Chitral Kush is a main player as well. It's responsible for some of those wonderful colors. But there are many other indica varieties from the Pakistan/Afghanistan region and other parts of the world.

If you were to start breeding you couldn't go wrong starting with Durban, PCK, Columbian, Panama, Afghanistan, Thailand, and a couple other indica's. I say that because that's the path I'm taking with my amateur breeding project. I'm biased and admit it.

Regardless, if you can get a real cut or seeds of any pure landrace strains you're likely going to get some good weed if you grown it right. Make a hybrid and those F1's can be fire.
 
DP is nice and all, but my favorite local (South African) strain as a kid was Pondo from the Ciskei area. As always with a long-running strain, it is best to do them outdoors and grow them as big as you can to make up for that extra month or two.
 
ANC said:
DP is nice and all, but my favorite local (South African) strain as a kid was Pondo from the Ciskei area. As always with a long-running strain, it is best to do them outdoors and grow them as big as you can to make up for that extra month or two.
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Interesting that you mention Ciskei as I just popped some Ciskei from Tropical Seeds.
 
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This plant is left on the table after yesterdays harvest. She has at least 3 more weeks to go. It was a bean I threw in an empty slot looking for males, but she was a nice stinky tropical lady. My wife likes the smell a lot. I just think it smells like fruit punch or mango or something overripe. The harvested plants went full cycle plus a week's leeching before I harvested them yesterday.... she is still taking up space for no good reason.
It's not like hydro Swazi is worth big bucks here.

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As you can see, she is a foxtailer. These landraces can be more trouble then they are worth (literally) at least over here, for doing indoors. You don't want to know how many knuckles is on that girl from training her to stay under the light.
 
ANC said:
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This plant is left on the table after yesterdays harvest. She has at least 3 more weeks to go. It was a bean I threw in an empty slot looking for males, but she was a nice stinky tropical lady. My wife likes the smell a lot. I just think it smells like fruit punch or mango or something overripe. The harvested plants went full cycle plus a week's leeching before I harvested them yesterday.... she is still taking up space for no good reason.
It's not like hydro Swazi is worth big bucks here.

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As you can see, she is a foxtailer. These landraces can be more trouble then they are worth (literally) at least over here, for doing indoors. You don't want to know how many knuckles is on that girl from training her to stay under the light.
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Here's some Ciskei I started. Letting them get some natural sun since there isn't a cloud in the sky. 16 days from seed. They are small but I keep the T5's right on top of them in the beginning so they don't get spindly and develop a nice sturdy stalk. Transplanting them today and they'll be two feet tall in a month when I put them in flower.

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KromaL said:
So if I'm not in a state where clones are readily available (nor have access to a rec dispensary where I can buy the finished product) and I'm looking for the real deal, I'm basically shit out of luck. Oh to live in a civilized state...
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Land race and pheno hunt...These will be long running sativa's..

Citral Flo - Etho's
Dream Lotus - Bhodi

Very nice sativa's that run 10 weeks - give or take a week....
 
xtsho said:
Here's some Ciskei I started. Letting them get some natural sun since there isn't a cloud in the sky. 16 days from seed. They are small but I keep the T5's right on top of them in the beginning so they don't get spindly and develop a nice sturdy stalk. Transplanting them today and they'll be two feet tall in a month when I put them in flower.

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I was growing two Durban Poison'70 (Tropical Seeds) that looked since the begging like "the real one" (a long florewin n' thin leaves sativa), without the Skunk/Indica genes of the Dutchs Durban Poison...but sadly the both were killed too young by my dogs & newphews...

Montuno said:
Returning to me, this year I'm having a lot of bad luck with the Durban Poison'70 .
First, I germed one during the end of this June-2018.

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...but it was killed by my dogs the first July week (my fault) when it looked like that:

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Montuno said:
The second Durban Poison'70 was too killed by one of the little kids of my family (she was playing to be a gardener, I think) a few days Ago:

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xtsho said:
I know it's not patented but the name "Durban Poison" is a registered trademark issued to Dutch Passion. But I can't find it registered in any of the trademark databases both US and foreign which is odd. Maybe they just put the trademark symbol on their webpages thinking it will keep others from calling their own strain the same.
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File for the trademark. See what happens?
 
A.K.A. Overgrowem said:
File for the trademark. See what happens?
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I searched TESS "Trademark Electronic Search System". It brings back six hits. None of them are cannabis related. But I just realized something. You can't trademark "Durban Poison" for anything cannabis related in the United States because cannabis is illegal under federal law. These seed banks using the trademark symbol wouldn't have any legal standing in the United States where I live. You can't have an international trademark and you have no legal standing if you were to try and enforce a trademark for a cannabis product in the United States. I think it's just marketing to make the consumer think they're getting something special. "Hey, it must be good because they trademarked it". I better buy some....
 
xtsho said:
I think that Seeds of Africa's Durban Magic is the pure sativa strain. It takes 13+ weeks to finish. They don't call themselves breeders but preservationists saving genetics. They only sell regular seeds as well.


https://seedsofafricastore.com/product/durban-magic
https://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/Durban_Magic/Seeds_of_Africa/
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Yo! Thanks for turning me on to SoA. I have a dream of buying a beach house in South Africa and now growing a big garden of all these African strains
 
KromaL said:
Dutch Passion offers a ~8 week plant that may or may not have been hydridized with something else while Ace/Cannabiogen offer African/Durban variants that flower for as long as 14 weeks. Meanwhile analyses range from less than 8% THC to as much as 30% with terpenes as high as 6%. Even more frustrating is that it’s clearly a great breeding strain with offspring like GSC and Cherry Pie.

What gives?? Does real Durban even exist anymore? Is what dispensaries are offering the real deal, or just a look-a-like pheno if something else entirely? Does it actually have this licorice/anise flavored, clear headed high that it’s fabled for? Maybe this just another case of the murky history of cannabis genetics where at the end of the day pot is just pot. Real curious if anyone has thoughts/experience with this strain. ✌
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CSI has S1 Durban Poison, Feminized seeds. S1 indicates that it comes from the mother plant of the original strain. The original strain was popular in the 70's, so finding something that hasn't been crossed is unlikly. CSI's claim of thier seeds being S1 is bold, but from what I can gather CSI is a reputable company.
 
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