Drooping leaves on 1 week old seedlings?

Bukvičák

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@MickFoster you saved my plants lol I’ll never even think about over watering coco again this stuff is great thanks man. They’re almost all back alive the project Z is really taking off compared to the greasy runtz but it was obvious the runtz was most effected by me not watering enough to begin with.
You will need much more water than you can imagine… in future 4 months :D and nutrients ofc
 

Filthy farmer

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Hey y’all I’m back, got a few more questions they’ve been growing very well now but I just want to make sure we’re all good lol sorry for being annoying.

1.) The project Z’s look good they’re the ones without the brown spots, I circled the area where on the true leaves it’s starting to point up at the edges kinda? Is this bad should I maybe move my light up?

2.) The greasy runtz are the ones with brown spots on the first leaves after the Cotyledons, my guess is this is because of how I stressed them out not watering enough last week and those leaves will probably die?

@MickFoster @Bukvičák
Anyone has any input it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! If you can’t tell this is my first coco experience lol

For context sense watering to 20% run off once a day I use ~900EC 6.0 PH water.
(General hydroponics line, cal mag, diamond nectar & rapid start) Per ML/gallon: 4ml cal mag, 2ml micro, 2ml gro, 0.6ml bloom, 5ml diamond nectar, 2ml rapid start, 2.5ml wetting agent. I then dilute with distilled water to ~900EC re check ph and water the plants.
 

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Bukvičák

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You must be crazy 900 ppm? Use only base nutes, forget those additives and suplements forever plants do NOT need it!!! Forget about 20% runoff just water and water a lot to sufficient runoff. At the beggining you have to measure that runoff to get know how much water you need to “flush” that unused shit away. You want to be close to the input, 100pmm higher is just fine. Long time constant pH 6,0 is too low, it can get too acidic over time. From the pictures you might be dealing with potassium def, what about your coco? I am using european rebrand of GH, so might be wrong here, but your ratios seem to be suspicious, what chart you follow?

Edit: probably not K def since you feeding them like a whales obviously
 
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Bukvičák

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Diamond Nectar is only to offset calmag in sense of NPK. How much Ca and Mg have been listed on your base nutes bottles? Rapid start I dunno what it actually has been made for and vetting agent can you tell me why in coco?
 

Roy O'Bannon

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If you want to learn a few things, look at back post by this ^guy. Not the only way to go, but proven out for sure over time. It's hard learning new things that don't seem to make sense yet.
 

Filthy farmer

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Thank you guys for the responses, to answer your questions EC is not PPM the EC I'm referring to is uS/CM which I believe would be 0.9EC on the typical scale. My ppm would be roughly 500. Also the coco brand is Mothers Earth. I don't have an answer as to why the wetting agent as I am literally just following this guys chart, figured I would use it as a base for my first coco grow because there was so much confusing information lol

Also here is the chart I am following let me know if this changes your above opinions it's almost watering time and I would like to make the adjustments today. @MickFoster @Bukvičák @Roy O'Bannon

So current suggestions are I'm over feeding & PH is to low? I should also cut everything out aside from the Flora line and calmag?
 

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Roy O'Bannon

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That stuff is fine. All of it is fine. Most guys switch to dry salt once they get going. I'm still finishing my bottles as well:)
The deal is they are pro's and can get the plants to use all that food.
Most of us can't, we don't have the environment nailed down.

The other thing is, can your plant read a calendar? what wk are they actually? It just takes time and experience to learn it, like when it first flowers, looks crazy. Go light on feed, I smoked mine feeding too much in coco. Feed just as much ppm as you need, even if it's .6 ec.

PH coco around 6. I do 5.8 - 6.1, anywhere in there.

I used to mix in a 5 gal bucket and add all that to 2x as much water as they say, and then dilute it further if needed. That way the ratios are right between the nutes and you are just adjusting the overall strength with water.
If you do the maxibloom thing, heat some water and it dissolves really quick.
 

Bukvičák

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Thank you guys for the responses, to answer your questions EC is not PPM the EC I'm referring to is uS/CM which I believe would be 0.9EC on the typical scale. My ppm would be roughly 500. Also the coco brand is Mothers Earth. I don't have an answer as to why the wetting agent as I am literally just following this guys chart, figured I would use it as a base for my first coco grow because there was so much confusing information lol

Also here is the chart I am following let me know if this changes your above opinions it's almost watering time and I would like to make the adjustments today. @MickFoster @Bukvičák @Roy O'Bannon

So current suggestions are I'm over feeding & PH is to low? I should also cut everything out aside from the Flora line and calmag?
I was thinking you follow this schedule… Look I am not able to get all of that stuff and even that, I am already so lazy getting bothered mixing my 3part nutes. Can not imagine me mixing this everyday, but if you already have them, than you can use them. Your water source? Also missing armor Si in your schedule. 0,9 EC is not so sky high but still quite on a stronger side for that small plant. I would go with just base in ratio 3:2:1 G:M:B and I am not sure about that calmag, how much is being listed on micro bottle? If you have soft water version you might not need it also. I would like to ask about your pH? Where it stands at the beggining, after adding all that stuff and how much of what you need to add to get it on 6,0?
 
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