Drooping leaves on 1 week old seedlings?

[Filthy farmer]

Title basically says it, below are pictures is this overwatered, under watered, wind burn, what’s up Google tells me way to much information and I’d just love to know y’all’s opinion. Thank you!

-Light is spider farmer se7000 on 30% about 24-30inches above the cups.
-fan is blowing above them now(was blowing lightly on them slight dance moved for now until I have input)
-started in rapid rooters then into solo cups with the coco
-coco 70/30
-ph 6.0 tap water fed only(my tap is high cal) Was about to start a light feed but then this happened and not sure how to proceed

 

[ZuuTeD614]

Over watered, let dry out completely. Us a spray bottle and just mist the top of soil to keep moist, quit drowning them!

 

[crimsonecho]

don’t mist the plants or the top of the soil, just water less often and don’t let it dry out completely because that’s another form of stress called drought stress. fucks up the roots even more.

just water less frequently and if you havent got any drainage holes, poke some. also a good way to tell when to water is to just lift the cups. if they feel light they need water.

 

[MickFoster]

Don't treat your coco like soil........it should never get even a little dry.

 

[ZuuTeD614]

Didn't see the part with coco my bad.

 

[Filthy farmer]

don’t mist the plants or the top of the soil, just water less often and don’t let it dry out completely because that’s another form of stress called drought stress. fucks up the roots even more.

just water less frequently and if you havent got any drainage holes, poke some. also a good way to tell when to water is to just lift the cups. if they feel light they need water.

So basically I should just not water for a day or so? I’m assuming the leaves will start to perk back up when it’s less wet?
There is plenty of drainage holes on the bottom of the cups. Personally they feel light maybe wait a day then water to runoff? Or just like 20ml? do I not water to run off at this stage? Any tips appreciated thank you! From what I’ve read once I make it past this stage I shouldn’t really have watering problems.

 

[crimsonecho]

So basically I should just not water for a day or so? I’m assuming the leaves will start to perk back up when it’s less wet?
There is plenty of drainage holes on the bottom of the cups. Personally they feel light maybe wait a day then water to runoff? Or just like 20ml? do I not water to run off at this stage? Any tips appreciated thank you! From what I’ve read once I make it past this stage I shouldn’t really have watering problems.

not sure seedling don’t always bounce back when they’re in this condition if root rot sets in especially. so yeah water less often.
i agree with @MickFoster on not getting your coco dry out but you cannot drown them also, so basically coco growers will say that coco always holds a good amount of oxygen in it and salts build up when you let it dry which intereferes with nutrient uptake so you shouldn’t let it dry out at all but yours seem so unhappy that i would just water less frequently.
again never let any substrate get bone dry, thats unhealthy, but let it dry a bit and then water.
whether that watering should be to a runoff or not is a question best answered by a coco grower, for me i never water to runoff but i run an organic mix (peat based) with drip irrigation.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

100% overwatering. Small seedlings like that don't need the entire pot soaked even in coco.

Did you make any holes in the cups?

 

[Filthy farmer]

@twentyeight.threefive yes lots of holes in the bottom of the cups

Thank you all! I will allow them to dry up(not all the way) hopefully they bounce back, I think 3/4 will 100% the one is quite sad though we shall see I’ll update you guys in a couple days appreciate it!

 

[Filthy farmer]

So still haven’t watered them, yesterday they were perked up and looking a lot better except for the back one with 2 cups in the pic.
Now they all look sad again, the one project z seed has like a bend in the leaf Looks really weird.
Is the best thing to do just still no water? And hope? Thanks.

 

[Filthy farmer]

So still haven’t watered them, yesterday they were perked up and looking a lot better except for the back one with 2 cups in the pic.
Now they all look sad again, the one project z seed has like a bend in the leaf Looks really weird.
Is the best thing to do just still no water? And hope? Thanks.

Bump, don’t wanna lose these genetics they look bad, wondering if there is anything I can do besides watching them slowly die lol.

 

[ComfortCreator]

Leave them and let them dry fully. A day or 2 they will be fine.

Once that happens, water a small amount and let it dry again. Increase amount as plant grows. If it droops...too much.

 

[Filthy farmer]

They still look terrible but I feel like they should be watered no? The coco is very dry now… they all look just as bad still. If I had to guess around 20-30% wet. The top is light brown not wet/moist at all. Again I’m growing in COCO. Can someone with COCO experience help me out here?

 

[MickFoster]

I've been growing in coco for many years.........I gave you advice in post #4 that you ignored.
I start feeding daily around day 3 from sprout, to substantial run off.
Never, ever, ever, let coco get dry.........ever.
Never use plain water.

 

[Filthy farmer]

I've been growing in coco for many years.........I gave you advice in post #4 that you ignored.
I start feeding daily around day 3 from sprout, to substantial run off.
Never, ever, ever, let coco get dry.........ever.
Never use plain water.

Pretty vague advice with contradicting answers from multiple of you no need to be rude mate, just here for help maybe go back and read what I’ve said multiple times asking for advice with clear questions about watering ect…. Literally not a mind reader your one sentence advice with no information about you having “years of coco experience” what am I supposed to do pull that info out of my ass? Go read all your posts and learn your life story?
Maybe give me a little more information in your first post instead of coming back rude after being so damn vague you didn’t answer a single one of my questions until now lol..

Back to attempting to get some answers..
1.) I was told the cotyledons contain the nutrients needed for the first week and then to start feeding. I was about to start feeding 6 days in from sprout as stated in the first post but then they started looking like that SO I POSTED HERE ASKING FOR ADVICE!!!
2.)So you are suggesting I water to run off? How frequently do you do that in this stage typically?
3.) What EC do you give from day 3? And how much/when do you start to increase.

Thanks

 

[MickFoster]

No need to become irate and angry my friend.

1.) I was told the cotyledons contain the nutrients needed for the first week and then to start feeding. I was about to start feeding 6 days in from sprout as stated in the first post but then they started looking like that SO I POSTED HERE ASKING FOR ADVICE!!!

Most of the bad advice you got was from people who don't even grow in coco.........yet you ignored my advice to never let the coco dry and listened to them by letting your coco get dry.

2.)So you are suggesting I water to run off? How frequently do you do that in this stage typically?

I answered this in my post #14........feed daily to substantial run off in veg and twice a day in flower.

3.) What EC do you give from day 3? And how much/when do you start to increase.

Can't help you there........I have never owned an EC meter.
I use only GH MaxiBLoom from start to finish.......1 tsp. per gallon is full strength.......I start at 1/4 strength and increase as the plant grows.........last grow I only had to use 1/3 tsp. the whole grow. Coco does best when fed regularly with weak nutes.

Here's a link to the most informative coco growing site........www.cocoforcannabis.com.

Good luck.

 

[MickFoster]

2 weeks from sprout and fed every day to run off.

 

[Filthy farmer]

No need to become irate and angry my friend.


Most of the bad advice you got was from people who don't even grow in coco.........yet you ignored my advice to never let the coco dry and listened to them by letting your coco get dry.

I answered this in my post #14........feed daily to substantial run off in veg and twice a day in flower.

Can't help you there........I have never owned an EC meter.
I use only GH MaxiBLoom from start to finish.......1 tsp. per gallon is full strength.......I start at 1/4 strength and increase as the plant grows.........last grow I only had to use 1/3 tsp. the whole grow. Coco does best when fed regularly with weak nutes.

Here's a link to the most informative coco growing site........www.cocoforcannabis.com.

Good luck.

Not angry at all, just didn’t like your attitude in the response and appropriately voiced my opinion perhaps I misinterpreted it sorry.

Thanks for the help mate appreciate it seriously! I’m just trying to figure things out as a noob & you get so many conflicting answers on the internet(that’s why I made this post to begin with cause every thread I read was so conflicting)

I will water to run off with weak nutes when I get home and see how they respond, thanks again.

 

[Filthy farmer]

No need to become irate and angry my friend.


Most of the bad advice you got was from people who don't even grow in coco.........yet you ignored my advice to never let the coco dry and listened to them by letting your coco get dry.

I answered this in my post #14........feed daily to substantial run off in veg and twice a day in flower.

Can't help you there........I have never owned an EC meter.
I use only GH MaxiBLoom from start to finish.......1 tsp. per gallon is full strength.......I start at 1/4 strength and increase as the plant grows.........last grow I only had to use 1/3 tsp. the whole grow. Coco does best when fed regularly with weak nutes.

Here's a link to the most informative coco growing site........www.cocoforcannabis.com.

Good luck.

I’m willing to bet you were right, I was starving them not overwatering them lol just watered to run off & they took a LOT of water before it started running off also the solo cups are noticeably heavier. Update y’all in a few days will continue watering to run off once a day for now.

 

[Filthy farmer]

@MickFoster you saved my plants lol I’ll never even think about over watering coco again this stuff is great thanks man. They’re almost all back alive the project Z is really taking off compared to the greasy runtz but it was obvious the runtz was most effected by me not watering enough to begin with.