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Fogdog said:
Its not a coincidence that Mexico has both terrible working conditions and practically no unions. US corporations have been complicit with the Mexican govt in keeping Mexican labor rights in check. Living conditions for most in Mexico is hard, which creates pressure for illegal immigration into the US. There are plenty of employers in the US that hire them. Along comes along this jerk, Trump who pulls the demagogue trick of bashing illegal immigrants to pander for votes of less educated working class white men. Then he promises to take away work from Mexican laborers in their own homeland by imposing tariffs on companies importing into the US. Basically he says he will unilaterally break treaties. While I'm no fan of NAFTA, it's not a good idea to wreck the economy Mexico by simply backing out of the treaty. Not to mention the effect on Mexican economy with the loss of income to families with a worker in the US who had been sending money home. From there, it all spirals downward as Mexico's unemployment rises and more people become desperate to find work in the US. On top of that, an upheaval in our own country begins when trade between Mexico and the US ends. I don't know how that will all end but it looks like nothing good.

If we really want to reduce illegal immigration, it makes better sense to work with Mexico and foreign companies in Mexico to improve its working conditions and wages. Start off with US policies that protect rights of workers in both the US and Mexico. What Trump proposes would wreck Mexico's economy and exacerbate already poor working conditions and wages.

What's going in in this country is an erosion of workers rights and conditions. Mexico and China are a template for what the 1% see as a proper condition. I see nothing in Trump's behavior or speeches that tell me he would do anything except take a wrecking ball to workers rights and jobs in the US and Mexico.
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It's not our job to keep Mexico's labor rights in check, or Cuba for that matter. Who would have known "hope and change" was about making the rest of the world great. At least when you hear "make America great again", we know which country people are talking about. That's refreshing
 
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Corso312 said:
Gotta think Jeb! loses all his donors after SC, a blind man can see he's dead n buried... He spent 45 million in New Hampshire to Cruz 600k ... And came in 4th... Kasich will probably get decent numbers in SC and stick around..I could see Jebs! Donors bailing for Kasich. Ya figure whoever wins will want Kadich as a running mate to get Ohio.
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Not if Kasich can't carry Ohio on his own.
 
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Corso312 said:
The guy dresses like a bum n sneaks away from his security detail n mingles with the poor n gives em dough... No other pope I've heard of would do that.. I have no idea if he's a socialist.. But he does seem to actually give a fuck about the poor people.
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Who's money is he buying love with? He took a vow of poverty. Broke it already?
 
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researching said:
That is why he is a false idol. He is a living deity and that is blasphemy. Maybe cares about the poor out of guilt from the crusades. Catholics.... the original radical extremists lol
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Radical extremists were around long before the Catholic church.
 
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Ohioans know if Kasich is VP or President... The state will get federal money... They know Kasich will look out for Ohio more so than any other candidate.
 
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Padawanbater2 said:
Every republican candidate loses to both Clinton and Sanders in a general election
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Clinton wins the nomination. Gets indicted. Any Republican wins by default. Alternate scenario: Clinton wins the nomination. FBI recommends prosecution, but corrupt Obama admin refuses to. Republicans blast airwaves with "one law for the masses, another law for the elite". Any Republican wins by default.
 
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Not GOP said:
It's not our job to keep Mexico's labor rights in check, or Cuba for that matter. Who would have known "hope and change" was about making the rest of the world great. At least when you hear "make America great again", we know which country people are talking about. That's refreshing
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Didn't say it was our job. Just saying that wrecking Mexico's economy isn't much of a solution to anything. The assumption is that we feel a strong need to stop illegal immigration. Creating more Mexican unemployed is a pretty idiotic way to start off that initiative. I am suggesting that if the Mexican worker had good jobs in Mexico, we wouldn't have nearly as many people taking the risk to cross that border. And yeah, I'm also saying that the Mexican worker has more in common with the US worker than either have with their wealthy class.

Make America Great Again by impoverishing our neighbor sounds like something that 1% would want.
 
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Padawanbater2 said:
What you are saying here is contradictory to what you say you support, even in this very thread

Are you aware of how much Trump's policies will expand the federal government? Or how his tax plan affects middle/lower class people? Has Trump said he want's to end the war on drugs? That would be consistent with a smaller federal government, but as far as I'm aware, the GOP platform has been a "tough on crime, tough on drugs" stance since the good ole "Just Say No!" days.. Does Trump support the individual freedom to marry? A woman's right to choose? Has he learned yet that he can't just "Shut down the bad parts of the internet" he doesn't like? Or ban entire groups of people from entering into the country based on their religion? Or build giant walls to keep people out?

I mean, if you ask me, all of that sounds pretty authoritarian/fascist, so why would a guy like you, who says he supports "limited government with limited authority" support a guy like Donald Trump for president?
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Trump isn't really a GOPer. Trump is pro-abortion. Never heard him speak on gay marriage one way or the other.i think it's possible to shut down parts of the internet, they do it all the time. We've banned entire groups of people from immigrating before. Building walls is an ancient task that generally works. I think you're making assumptions that aren't warranted.
 
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Truth is most are blind to what is needed to get USA back on track and yes its going to hurt everyone with raised taxes , raised everything trump is the one that will in fact do what it takes to bring back companies that previous governments scared away USA should not have to worry bout Mexico economy , they need to worry about there own and fuck the rest TRump will infact after his highly paid analysts come up with a plan on how to bring it back ..
Bernie wants to tax the rich in other words the rich will leave the country you can count on that and with that jobs as well .

Most americans are fooled lied to on employment or what ever other statistic..
You cannot keep sluffing off the debt for next generation or think its magically going to disappear
It gong to get 100 times more uglier in the few years to come but sucks it has to to get USA back on track
the time has caught up and no matter what trump will come up with a plan and get it done
all these other clowns will do is another stimulus package fake how things are turning for the better and bury the shit that needs to be addressed and resolved NOW
 
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Here Bernies bedroom at the white house lol you cannot teach a slob how to be clean Never lol sure he will have one room called the porn room
 
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2ANONYMOUS said:
Truth is most are blind to what is needed to get USA back on track and yes its going to hurt everyone with raised taxes , raised everything trump is the one that will in fact do what it takes to bring back companies that previous governments scared away USA should not have to worry bout Mexico economy , they need to worry about there own and fuck the rest TRump will infact after his highly paid analysts come up with a plan on how to bring it back ..
Bernie wants to tax the rich in other words the rich will leave the country you can count on that and with that jobs as well .

Most americans are fooled lied to on employment or what ever other statistic..
You cannot keep sluffing off the debt for next generation or think its magically going to disappear
It gong to get 100 times more uglier in the few years to come but sucks it has to to get USA back on track
the time has caught up and no matter what trump will come up with a plan and get it done
all these other clowns will do is another stimulus package fake how things are turning for the better and bury the shit that needs to be addressed and resolved NOW
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What needs to be done now is get all the freebies we can beg, borrow or steal and let our fucking kids pay for it. -Bernie Sanders
 
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2ANONYMOUS said:
Truth is most are blind to what is needed to get USA back on track and yes its going to hurt everyone with raised taxes , raised everything trump is the one that will in fact do what it takes to bring back companies that previous governments scared away USA should not have to worry bout Mexico economy , they need to worry about there own and fuck the rest TRump will infact after his highly paid analysts come up with a plan on how to bring it back ..
Bernie wants to tax the rich in other words the rich will leave the country you can count on that and with that jobs as well .

Most americans are fooled lied to on employment or what ever other statistic..
You cannot keep sluffing off the debt for next generation or think its magically going to disappear
It gong to get 100 times more uglier in the few years to come but sucks it has to to get USA back on track
the time has caught up and no matter what trump will come up with a plan and get it done
all these other clowns will do is another stimulus package fake how things are turning for the better and bury the shit that needs to be addressed and resolved NOW
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Try to follow 2A's post. Start in the center of the box:
 
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ky man said:
sHIT IAM reg, DEM, BUT I VOTED FOR A REP. GOVNOR THIS TIME AROUND AND THE REASON WAS he his for legal pot in ky,ky. that is the first time I ever voted for a rep, govener in my dam life and iam proud of it.And that is the onley reason that he won.
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Pot is the biggest industry in Ky already. My great aunt got busted with a whole mountainside of it. They tried her three times and couldn't get a conviction. Just couldn't get a jury to lock up an 86 year old woman.
 
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I would rather pay more for higher quality , If it means producing food and cars in this country again. Who cares if things are cheaper if no one has a job. Tax breaks for goods made here, not tax breaks for imports.
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No, that makes things more expensive according to every credible economist. Do you want things to be more expensive?
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