Exactly, but some people feel that those laws were not in effect on 9/11.
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ginjawarrior
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no its got more to do with surface area that jumper had arms and legs spread out like skydivers making a larger suface area
ohnothimagin
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There is a lot of unanswered questions. It did help create the behemoth "Homeland Security" and a lot of defense & security contractors are making a bundle. Just look at the airport scanners. Look who is heavily invested in that technology. Feeling up granny and grampa just for shits and giggles. Now we are turning on ourselves. We are attacking people because they have a pension. WE ALL SHOULD HAVE PENSIONS! We are attacking unions and child labor laws. How did we get a 40 hour work week? UNIONS! How did we get overtime? UNIONS. We need an FDR and we have a Democratic and a Republican party that's sold the middle class and poor down the river because the banks own the country.
This country is over. It's been over for over 10 years. It's like George Carlin said, "They call it the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."
This country is over. It's been over for over 10 years. It's like George Carlin said, "They call it the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."
ginjawarrior
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i dont think there is any need for the building to stop at every floor on the way down. considering the forces its not surprising that no momentum was lost after first collapse
incognegro999
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Ok. haha Either the entire building collapsed at one time or each floor successively gave away right? can we at least agree on that? and that it started from the upper portion of the building?
HAHA that is funny, Im envisioning a Wile E Coyote moment where he steps off the cliff for a few seconds before realizing he's fucked, then pulls out a goodbye sign and THEN he starts falling. I don't think the floors would stop the impending collapse, but they sure as hell would slow it down some. At least enough for more than a 2 second delay for the top to be on the ground, don't you agree that it seems a bit odd that 80% of the building presented no more resistance than an egg shell? I mean these buildings got their strength from the CORE, you could remove 100% of all the walls in the building and it would still stay upright.
incognegro999
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I know Jesus. People Cant seem to get a grip on the fact that if the building collapsed the way the government said that it did, things like inertia and gravity and drag would have made the collapse look a whole lot different. I dont claim to have any answers onto what actually happened, but unless that plane was carrying nothing but jet fuel and every drop made it onto supporting beams the building wouldnt just fall on itself at near terminal velocity speeds
I would agree with this, but the difference is staggering. the building has wind resistance too you know, those giant flat parts present quite a challenge to aerodynamic efficiencies. Of course if all those flat parts are first blown into smaller pieces than it isn't such a problem. Prove this to your self by getting a 5'x5' piece of sheet metal, throw it off the nearest tall thing and see how it reacts. Now cut that same sheet metal into 10 equally sized squares and roll them into cylinders. now throw them from the nearest tall thing. see the difference? Now take those cylinders and another 5x5 sheet of metal and throw them all off the nearest tall thing and see which one gets to the ground first. Depending on how you drop the sheet you could potentially get the sheet to the ground at the same time as the cylinders, but it will never get there first.
Howard Stern
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Yeah it was an inside job, how can three building fall into them selves and one wasn't even fucking hit by a plane. And they all fall at the rate of gravity as if there is no resistance! I really think that people that think it wasn't an inside job have their heads in the sand and throw out all logic! If you think that the gov wouldn't do this to their own people for money/outside interests then you really have no clue what our gov is capable of!
Balzac89
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Who me nah? It happens want me to apologize for my spelling or something?he must have me on ignore.
ginjawarrior
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an egg shell has quite alot of strength and when it breaks it breaks catastrophically... i think its fits pretty well with the building after the first collapse the force was too much and it shattered like an egg...HAHA that is funny, Im envisioning a Wile E Coyote moment where he steps off the cliff for a few seconds before realizing he's fucked, then pulls out a goodbye sign and THEN he starts falling. I don't think the floors would stop the impending collapse, but they sure as hell would slow it down some. At least enough for more than a 2 second delay for the top to be on the ground, don't you agree that it seems a bit odd that 80% of the building presented no more resistance than an egg shell? I mean these buildings got their strength from the CORE, you could remove 100% of all the walls in the building and it would still stay upright.
ginjawarrior
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yeah sounds about right
its just about how much resistance it should have put up at each floor
i think the forces were enough for immediate falure on each floor as it went down
Carl Spackler
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I don't claim to be an architect or a structural engineer but I do remember watching a documentary on PBS a few years ago (NOVA I think). The chief architect of the towers was a japanese guy as I recall and he confessed that the design was flawed. Tired of all the inside job/conspiracy horeshit.
Balzac89
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Each floor collapsed one after the other complete failure which shows that it was the weight of the upper portion of the building that caused it with successive failures of each floor. It kind of looks like a controlled demolition, but obviously is not.
[video=youtube;m3YQ3RmvAm4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3YQ3RmvAm4[/video]
I don't hear anything exploding.....
[video=youtube;m3YQ3RmvAm4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3YQ3RmvAm4[/video]
I don't hear anything exploding.....
Can you see the core?
Where is it now?
What does the steel communication tower on WTC#1 look like when it turns to dust?
WTF could possibly do that?
Evidence of a Beam weapon?
Could a Fire engine engine get so hot that it melts into nothingness?
could 1400 cars just explode into flame? Firefighters noted that there were NO FIRES anywhere near these vehicles. Nothing fell on these vehicles either, they just caught fire, nearby paper was left untouched.
here is what the hole under the tower looks like
Does that look melted to you? It doesn't take the cone shape that a explosive device would have made.
There are many many questions and so few answers.
Where is it now?
What does the steel communication tower on WTC#1 look like when it turns to dust?
Evidence of a Beam weapon?
Could a Fire engine engine get so hot that it melts into nothingness?
could 1400 cars just explode into flame? Firefighters noted that there were NO FIRES anywhere near these vehicles. Nothing fell on these vehicles either, they just caught fire, nearby paper was left untouched.
here is what the hole under the tower looks like
Does that look melted to you? It doesn't take the cone shape that a explosive device would have made.
There are many many questions and so few answers.
Balzac89
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The final picture is where the center column of the building was built on the bedrock. and that is what bedrock looks like guy.http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/23/article-0-02C2ECC500000578-922_468x703.jpg[/IMG]
Does that look melted to you? It doesn't take the cone shape that a explosive device would have made.
There are many many questions and so few answers.
bedrock has huge holes in it? Amazing. Aren't you the person who said that Architects design buildings to collapse in on themselves?
that's your theory?
What??????