Disgusting and dishonest

tet1953

Well-Known Member
Here in Maine, one of our long-time senators (a Republican) decided not to seek reelection, citing the partisanship and gridlock as her reason.
So, the race is on to replace her. The frontrunner is an independent who once served as Maine's governor.
There is currently an ad running (quite often, in fact) which sings the praises of the Democrat in the race, and contrasts this candidate with the independent. What I have a problem with is that this ad is being run by a GOP PAC, in an effort to steer votes away from the independent.
Legal? Of course. It's just so damn dishonest. It really ticks me off that people who pull this crap want to run our state/country.
It happens to be GOP this time but they're all guilty of it.
 

ChesusRice

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Here in Maine, one of our long-time senators (a Republican) decided not to seek reelection, citing the partisanship and gridlock as her reason.
So, the race is on to replace her. The frontrunner is an independent who once served as Maine's governor.
There is currently an ad running (quite often, in fact) which sings the praises of the Democrat in the race, and contrasts this candidate with the independent. What I have a problem with is that this ad is being run by a GOP PAC, in an effort to steer votes away from the independent.
Legal? Of course. It's just so damn dishonest. It really ticks me off that people who pull this crap want to run our state/country.
It happens to be GOP this time but they're all guilty of it.
Scuse me
Didnt the GOP try to do some voter suppression in Maine as well with voter ID?
 

Jasonian069

Active Member
The GOP can burn in hell after the shenanigans at the convention, the instant rule changes and their all around douchebaggery.
 

george xxx

Active Member
Here in Maine, one of our long-time senators (a Republican) decided not to seek reelection, citing the partisanship and gridlock as her reason.
So, the race is on to replace her. The frontrunner is an independent who once served as Maine's governor.
There is currently an ad running (quite often, in fact) which sings the praises of the Democrat in the race, and contrasts this candidate with the independent. What I have a problem with is that this ad is being run by a GOP PAC, in an effort to steer votes away from the independent.
Legal? Of course. It's just so damn dishonest. It really ticks me off that people who pull this crap want to run our state/country.
It happens to be GOP this time but they're all guilty of it.
Its the great american way. When you cannot dazzle with brilliance baffle with bullshit. Corporate america and potilicians consider the average american to be too ignorant to note the difference.
 

ink the world

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The GOP knows King is gonna smoke Summers, so they push Dill who has no chance. Trying to make Dill this years Nader.


People outside of Maine would be amazed at the politics here. Our current asshat of a governor didn't even garner 50% of the vote. The Dem vote got split by the Dem candidate and the Dem he lost to in the primary. Thanks to
Cutler the state has had to endure an obnoxious oaf of a teabagger for too long now. Hell, I wish Angus would run for governor again. Anything, even a turtle would be less embarrassing and damaging to the state than that fat POS Lepage
 

ink the world

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Hey tet,

How's your summer been?

Man I'm done with tourist season, can't freaking wait for Tuesday when sanity returns to my town.
 

ink the world

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I have still not met the person who cannot get a government ID.
Heck, I have 2 in my pocket right now.
Requiring people to PAY A FEE in order to vote is a poll tax. If you want voter ID that's fine, provide those ID's free of charge, that wasn't an option though because it about suppressing the vote, nothing else ..thankfully the good people of Maine are able to distinguish a political rouse from an actual problem.....
 

tet1953

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Hey tet,

How's your summer been?

Man I'm done with tourist season, can't freaking wait for Tuesday when sanity returns to my town.
Damn..Labor Day weekend already? I've had a great summer actually :) No heat problems at all even during the heat waves. What a difference that made (air cooled lighting, more ventilation)
 

tet1953

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Requiring people to PAY A FEE in order to vote is a poll tax. If you want voter ID that's fine, provide those ID's free of charge, that wasn't an option though because it about suppressing the vote, nothing else ..thankfully the good people of Maine are able to distinguish a political rouse from an actual problem.....
I am not sure if I buy the voter suppression argument or not. However, requiring an ID to vote seems to me like a logical thing to do. It should not cost money, and it should be easy to do. If those things were true, would you still be against voter ID?
 

chrishydro

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Here in Maine, one of our long-time senators (a Republican) decided not to seek reelection, citing the partisanship and gridlock as her reason.
So, the race is on to replace her. The frontrunner is an independent who once served as Maine's governor.
There is currently an ad running (quite often, in fact) which sings the praises of the Democrat in the race, and contrasts this candidate with the independent. What I have a problem with is that this ad is being run by a GOP PAC, in an effort to steer votes away from the independent.
Legal? Of course. It's just so damn dishonest. It really ticks me off that people who pull this crap want to run our state/country.
It happens to be GOP this time but they're all guilty of it.
I am 51 and very much involved in reading and watching politics. This year and part of last year were the most lies I have ever heard, it is the new thing I guess, from Mayors to the Office of the President of the United States they are all lieing to us each and every day.
 

tet1953

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I am 51 and very much involved in reading and watching politics. This year and part of last year were the most lies I have ever heard, it is the new thing I guess, from Mayors to the Office of the President of the United States they are all lieing to us each and every day.
I, too, have been paying attention for most of my life, and I am almost a decade older than you are. I agree totally. Politics has always been nasty business, and it has gotten worse with every election. And people say that every election, "...worst I've ever seen." But it truly is. With the Tea Party entering the picture it has just become a 3-ring circus.
 

ink the world

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I am not sure if I buy the voter suppression argument or not. However, requiring an ID to vote seems to me like a logical thing to do. It should not cost money, and it should be easy to do. If those things were true, would you still be against voter ID?
Not at all, if an acceptable ID was provided free I'd wholeheartedly support it. I have no problem at all in voter verification, just not as a cost (poll tax) to the voter.

That's really the tell in this situation. Those insistent on ID refuse to provide it free of charge. That to me indicates an underlying motivation to suppress votes, not ensure vote legitimacy.
 

tet1953

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Not at all, if an acceptable ID was provided free I'd wholeheartedly support it. I have no problem at all in voter verification, just not as a cost (poll tax) to the voter.

That's really the tell in this situation. Those insistent on ID refuse to provide it free of charge. That to me indicates an underlying motivation to suppress votes, not ensure vote legitimacy.
I actually remember paying a poll tax once or twice in my youth lol. It wasn't fully repealed in Maine until 1978.
 

canndo

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I have still not met the person who cannot get a government ID.
Heck, I have 2 in my pocket right now.


Again - because you have not met one, they must not exist. I have yet to see a three toed sloth. They must not exist either. I have however heard testamony from a vet who cannot vote because his military ID is non-renewable. I think there is an impression that any ID will work in these states. That is incorrect. Many states specify exactly what will and will not work - oh, say like a student ID not being acceptable.
 

canndo

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I am not sure if I buy the voter suppression argument or not. However, requiring an ID to vote seems to me like a logical thing to do. It should not cost money, and it should be easy to do. If those things were true, would you still be against voter ID?

Logical thing to do? Perhaps, perhaps if there was proof of voter fraud it would logical. Perhaps if the electorate had several years in which to comply and a well organized PR campaign so that everyone knew that the ID they had previously would no longer work, perhaps then it would be reasonable.

Until then, I assure you, it is voter supression. We know that from a number of different sources - one being from a ranking Republican who stated it. Another from ALEC letterhead having been submitted under legislation.
 

UncleBuck

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Here in Maine, one of our long-time senators (a Republican) decided not to seek reelection, citing the partisanship and gridlock as her reason.
So, the race is on to replace her. The frontrunner is an independent who once served as Maine's governor.
There is currently an ad running (quite often, in fact) which sings the praises of the Democrat in the race, and contrasts this candidate with the independent. What I have a problem with is that this ad is being run by a GOP PAC, in an effort to steer votes away from the independent.
Legal? Of course. It's just so damn dishonest. It really ticks me off that people who pull this crap want to run our state/country.
It happens to be GOP this time but they're all guilty of it.
thank the roberts court for citizens united.

you just made a very convincing case for why we need a puppet who will fill the SCOTUS with picks that don't think corporations are people.
 
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