Did we actually land on the moon?

VTXDave

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hmmmmmmmmm??????????????????????????????
With a Bachelors in Computer Science and a minor in Mathematics I'll answer your question if you first refute my arguments Einstein. Answer the fucking question regarding why the Soviets didn't expose our fraud. Oh that's right...You weren't even alive then and you didn't have to "Duck and Cover" in school to prepare for a nuclear attack from the Soviet Union like I did. Answer why thousands of people trained their arrays and directly viewed the downlink from the moon because there was no video...only a direct feed in real time. Answer the liftoff of the Ascent Module weighing 10,000 lbs (of which I knew an engineer who worked on it) with only an engine generating 3500 lbs thrust.
 
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PoseidonsNet

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Answer the fucking question regarding why the Soviets didn't expose our fraud.
has been answered 3 times already, u haven't read the whole thread. but let me say
it again :

THEY DID.

its only on american TV that they did not. the rest of the world has been laughing at this for decades.

did u really think your govt was going to give Russian news bulletins the time of day during the cold war? u cannot be serious.

Oh that's right...You weren't even alive then and you didn't have to "Duck and Cover" in school to prepare for a nuclear attack from the Soviet Union like I did.
i was born before the 'moon landings', and i had to duck and cover bcos of imaginary nuclear communist threats throughout going to the nazi brainwashing centre they called 'school'. the same south african nationalist govt that was aided and abetted by the likes of Reagan, etc...

Answer why thousands of people trained their arrays and directly viewed the downlink from the moon because there was no video...only a direct feed in real time
this is itself a major problem. ytf did they not have the $ for one lousy fucking video camera?

fuck - u go all the way to the moon but forget the vidcam?

and how do all you moonies feel about armstrong going on about how he saw ufos on the way to the moon? (on Larry King)

do all you moon-believers also believe in ufos now?
if u do not then you have proven armstrong a LIER.

Answer the liftoff of the Ascent Module weighing 10,000 lbs (of which I knew an engineer who worked on it) with only an engine generating 3500 lbs thrust.
that makes no sense. what is it an answer to?
i asked a q


can any of u answer this difficult question?

(9.8 m.s^-2) / 6 = ?


which would require an answer expressed in m.s^-2.
not lbs

do american physics students understand what the METRIC system is?
and why its pointless expressing such matters in the antiquated useless and
downright backward imperial system.

and still none of u can answer any of these questions.

(lbs and kg are not always equatable as lbs measure weight, but kg measure mass)
 

hom36rown

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can any of u answer this difficult question?

(9.8 m.s^-2) / 6 = ?
1.6 m/s^2, which is the acceleration due to gravity on the moon....that does not mean footage of the moon at 6x will look like earths gravity........does a pendulum swing 6 times slower on the moon?...no it doesnt
 

hom36rown

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yes the acceleration due to gravity is 1/6 of earths, however, footage of earth played at 6x speed would not look like earths gravity, you would have to play it a 2.46x speed
 

hom36rown

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like I said, does a pendulum swing 6x slower on the moon.......no it doesnt....it swings 2.46x slower
 

VTXDave

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has been answered 3 times already, u haven't read the whole thread. but let me say
it again :

THEY DID.

its only on american TV that they did not. the rest of the world has been laughing at this for decades.

did u really think your govt was going to give Russian news bulletins the time of day during the cold war? u cannot be serious.
Oh really? Show me the Pravda link. Show me the BBC or Guardian link Show me the news articles that all the other news agencies showed to the world EXCEPT America. Show me the news articles that were published by the major papers of the time that would have made it back to America by those traveling abroad. Surely there must be scanned images of the news articles from credible sources such as Pravda or the Guardian, yes? Show me the money...You have proven nothing other than saying..."They did"
 

VTXDave

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do all you moon-believers also believe in ufos now?
if u do not then you have proven armstrong a LIER.
Please explain the logic you used to arrive at your conclusion. Whether I believe in UFOs or not is immaterial to proving Neil Armstrong a liar.
 

PoseidonsNet

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footage of earth played at 6x speed would not look like earths gravity, you would have to play it a 2.46x speed
by what miracle of maths do you arrive at this conclusion?
plz show me your calculations.

what do pendulums have to do with it anyway? thats completely irrelevant despite the pendelum moving (accelerating) at 1.6 instead of 9.8

You have proven nothing other than saying..."They did"
y would the russians have never gone to the moon themselves?
if americans of '69 can do it then fuucking zimbabwe should be able to by 2008!

the russians not even trying, is plenty of proof
i don't speak russian

but it has always been common knowledge out here in the British colonies that the Russians always disputed the very possibility of going beyond the van allen (sp) belt.

but this is sheer digression....

so u all believe armstrong saw a UFO on the way to the moon???
(echoes)
so u all believe armstrong saw a UFO on the way to the moon???
(echoes for the third or fourth time now)
so u all believe armstrong saw a UFO on the way to the moon???
 

VTXDave

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this is itself a major problem. ytf did they not have the $ for one lousy fucking video camera?

fuck - u go all the way to the moon but forget the vidcam?
It is not a major problem. The video equipment (camera and recording devices)of the time was large, heavy, and bulky. There was weight and space constraints on the LEM and it was much easier to transport a a small camera, antenna, and transmitter/receiver and let the people on Earth record to tape. In order to tape the hours of footage, they would have had to transport miles of videotape or film. The standard for videotape at the time was 2" format. Here's a pic of a Quad video recording machine....

The cabin itself was not much larger than a phone booth. All the footage that the world viewed at the time was from a direct downlink from the moon and many countries, including amateur astronomers received the feed. If the feed did not come from the moon, then where did these viewers train their arrays on? The telemetry would have been telling.
 

VTXDave

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y would the russians have never gone to the moon themselves?
if americans of '69 can do it then fuucking zimbabwe should be able to by 2008!

the russians not even trying, is plenty of proof
Now you're stating that the Soviets weren't engaged in a Space Race w/ the US? What history books are you reading?
N1 rocket - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The reason why we sent Apollo 8 to the moon without testing is becasue the Soviet Union was preparing a rocket for launch and we at least wanted to get men in orbit before them. The Soviet rocket ended up exploding but Apollo 8 was successful.

As far a Zimbabwe, they could do it if they allocated the funding for it I'm sure. But Zimbabwe didn't have John F. Kennedy...
"We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon... We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too."
 

VTXDave

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i don't speak russian
That's OK, neither do I, but provide the link anyway. I'll be happy to get my aunt, who happened to work for Lawrence Livermore Laboratory in the 60's translating Top Secret Soviet documents (some of which included their Space Program), to perform the translation for everyone to read here.
 
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VTXDave

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recently footage was released of adolph hitler with a mini camera not much bigger than a modern vidcam

here is a sample of a camera from the 1940's

http://www.lib.unc.edu/blogs/morton/index.php/2008/05/remembering-ww2/hugh-morton-with-movie-camera-atop-plane-go-gettin-gal-world-war-ii-early-1940s/

fuck have u not seen movie footage taken from inside the cockpit ofWORLD WAR 2 fighter aircraft??????
Yes I have, but my point being is that due to weight and space constraints on the LEM it would have been prohibitive to carry the miles of film necessary to shoot the landings. It was much easier, both in weight and space, to haul a camera, antenna, and transmitter.
 

VTXDave

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recently footage was released of adolph hitler with a mini camera not much bigger than a modern vidcam

here is a sample of a camera from the 1940's

http://www.lib.unc.edu/blogs/morton/index.php/2008/05/remembering-ww2/hugh-morton-with-movie-camera-atop-plane-go-gettin-gal-world-war-ii-early-1940s/

fuck have u not seen movie footage taken from inside the cockpit ofWORLD WAR 2 fighter aircraft??????
Yes I have, but my point being is that due to weight and space constraints on the LEM it would have been prohibitive to carry the miles of film necessary to shoot the landings not to mention that we would not have been able to view the landings in real time. We would've had to wait for their return. It was much easier, both in weight and space, to haul a camera, antenna, and transmitter.
 

VTXDave

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i was born before the 'moon landings', and i had to duck and cover bcos of imaginary nuclear communist threats throughout going to the nazi brainwashing centre they called 'school'. the same south african nationalist govt that was aided and abetted by the likes of Reagan, etc...
So that would put you around my age then, yes? I'm 48, and you? Don't you still live at home w/ your parents? Is this a pic of you? Albeit your camera blocks most of your face, you don't appear to be around 48...
 
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