Did Ron Paul Win Iowa, Nevada, Minnesota, Colorado and Missouri?

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
The reason FDRs depression
I love how when republican's completely destroy the economy and get thrown out of office in favor a democrat, they immediately turn to blaming the guy charged with cleaning up their mess with making the mess in the first place.

lasted until after WW2 is because he didn't let businesses fail. He did not let the free market bottom out, identify the losers, and rebuild itself. IF you are going to bailout businesses at least FDR did the right thing and rebuilt our infrastructure. Over priced and inefficient but at least that failed policy wasn't very bad, just bad.
So you think the biggest problem with the great depression is that we didn't lose enough jobs? Because that's the result of just letting sectors of the economy fail. And the banks did get to fail for the most part during the great depression. And it was a disaster! People lost their life savings through no fault of their own. Millions lost jobs. And we had 30%+ unemployment.

What led to the disaster was the same thing that ALWAYS happens but your head is so far up your backside you dont get it.
You are convinced that economic theory that has never produced a positive real world result is 100% based on no evidence what so ever besides Ron Paul told you that is what you're supposed to think. And I'm the one with my head up my ass. lol


Like I said in a the previous post. You are uninformed.
I'm really not. You just won't believe anything unless Ron Paul tells you to believe it.

The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is a program of the United States government to purchase assets and equity from financial institutions to strengthen its financial sector that was signed into law by U.S. President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008. It was a component of the government's measures in 2008 to address the subprime mortgage crisis.
It was passed by congress under bush. Yes, Obama distributed some of the money, but that was his job. It was a law passed by congress and signed by president Bush. TARP wasn't a suggestion. Obama isn't the king. He can't just ignore the law because you didn't like it.

In President Obama's first State of the Union address, he tried to capture the public's anger toward Wall Street while defending his decision to bail it out. He argued that while his rescue of the banks wasn't popular, it was necessary.
It was, and he didn't enact TARP! That was Bush.
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
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Ron Paul hates government spending, unless it's pork he's writing into bills for his district. Then he LOVES government spending.
 

lifegoesonbrah

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I love how when republican's completely destroy the economy and get thrown out of office in favor a democrat, they immediately turn to blaming the guy charged with cleaning up their mess with making the mess in the first place.
I love how brainwashed liberals just attribute the entire economic recovery to the New Deal with no basis of information, just that FDR came and fixed everything with his awesome spending bill. It wouldn't be the fact that the newly implemented federal reserve caused a bubble by excessive deflation and low interest rates, and recovery was partly attributed to reflation. A cause of recovery wouldn't be new banking regulations, requiring banks to hold a larger reserve and use a smaller money multiplier. It wouldn't be the recovery from the dust bowl. It wouldn't be the fact that overregulation of international trade via tarriffs caused a massive reduction in trading. It certainly wouldn't be the fact that world war 2 ended and war spending greatly decreased and housing consumption increased. Nope. Its the new deal, FDR builds some new bridges and everything is fixed! Almost like fucken magic.
 

lifegoesonbrah

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Ron Paul hates government spending, unless it's pork he's writing into bills for his district. Then he LOVES government spending.
Are you suggesting he should just refuse all government funding from the federal government for his district even though the people in his district pay federal taxes? That like not allowing the people in your district to collect social security benefits even know they pay the tax.
 

deprave

New Member
six different newspapers reported on interviews done by paul himself AND his staffers.

jesus fucking christ, he said he wrote them. he even explained later on why he told that lie.
no...six different people reported the houston chronicles article which is not a direct quote and heresay.
 

deprave

New Member
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Ron Paul hates government spending, unless it's pork he's writing into bills for his district. Then he LOVES government spending.
Hello John Mccain,

Ron Paul earmarks all spending so that it is accounted for, further, all of his spending is for charities and good things for the community, including things like roads, which you seem to think Ron Paul is against Roads so it kind of counters your whole conspiracy theory.
 

Catchin22

Well-Known Member
Actually what helped us out of the depression largely was getting off the Gold Standard. Put that in your pipe.
 

lifegoesonbrah

Well-Known Member
Actually what helped us out of the depression largely was getting off the Gold Standard. Put that in your pipe.
The gold standard was reformed after the great depression to show a fixed gold standard instead, the gold standard wasn't eliminated until 1971. Yes some Keynesians believe this was attributable to the rise from the great depression. My point is, you have been singling out the new deal as the fix all problem. Many factors are attributable and debatable. Its not as clear cut as you have been making it out to be,
 

deprave

New Member
Well what's new?

Another debate tonight

It is confirmed that all the candidates have formed a coalition to try and defeat Paul in Louisiana.

7 of the Iowa delegates have admitted they will support Paul regardless.

Rush Limbaugh calls Ron Paul a terrorist for his opposition to the TSA.
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
Well what's new?

Another debate tonight

It is confirmed that all the candidates have formed a coalition to try and defeat Paul in Louisiana.

7 of the Iowa delegates have admitted they will support Paul regardless.

Rush Limbaugh calls Ron Paul a terrorist for his opposition to the TSA.
Rush Limbaugh is a disgrace to opiate addicts everywhere.
 

Parker

Well-Known Member
Oh Parker, RP promises so much BS there's no way in hell he will deliver on ANY of it.
Because you say so? Why should I believe you? The president controls almost all of the spending. The president controls troop movements. WTF were you saying again?
Are you going to call him a liar too?
Why would I call him a liar? He hasn't lied. I know what a liar is. Obama is a liar. Maybe you're to blind to see that but I'm not.
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Or are you just going to make the excuse that he had good intentions but got held up by others?
What a stupid comment. Ron Paul has policies that work. I'll blame you for voting in douchebags who back ineffective policies.
Wake the fuck up dude.
You need to wake the fuck up you mindless drone.
How well did the bailouts and recovery package work? Economy running well? Unemployment low?

How well is our never ending foreign policy of being policemen of the world working in the Middle East? 60 years of occupation working out? Overthrowing a democratically elected leader all the while promoting democracy seem like it's a good thing?

Since when are the policies of big government working? How is our education system compared to the rest of the world? It's declining since big government Dept of Education got involved. Yet you can't see those things and you want me to wake up?

Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life son.
 

Parker

Well-Known Member
i cant wait until ron paul gives up and all u ron paul weirdos find something else to do
Yea following the Constitution is weird. Following policies of freedom and liberty and respecting property rights is weird. Staying out of running other countries by taking money away from the poor in America is weird.
I can't wait until you give up typing in lower case. You're lost.
 

mame

Well-Known Member
GM is now the number one automaker in the world, Paul would've let them fail. The stimulus saved or created 3 million jobs and the models show us that things would undoubtedly be worse if there was no stimulus.
 

Parker

Well-Known Member
six different newspapers reported on interviews done by paul himself AND his staffers.

jesus fucking christ, he said he wrote them. he even explained later on why he told that lie.
jesus fucking christ quit lying. You have no proof he said it. I'm waiting for you to show proof instead of shitting it out of your mouth. Not one shred of evidence from a mentally stable person. No record of him saying he wrote them. Only because YOU say so. You're not reliable and use some mouthwash your breath stinks.
 

Parker

Well-Known Member
I love how when republican's completely destroy the economy and get thrown out of office in favor a democrat, they immediately turn to blaming the guy charged with cleaning up their mess with making the mess in the first place.
You clueless partisan drone. It was the fault of both parties when they regulated the housing market


So you think the biggest problem with the great depression is that we didn't lose enough jobs?
No and you have no proof of me saying that. You make things up because you don't have a leg to stand on. Show proof or STFU.

Because that's the result of just letting sectors of the economy fail.
no That's what happens when the federal Reserve plays with interest rates. Get a clue for once.

And the banks did get to fail for the most part during the great depression. And it was a disaster! People lost their life savings through no fault of their own. Millions lost jobs. And we had 30%+ unemployment.
because we ignored the free market. That's what YOU ignore also. You treat the cause not the symptom.

You are convinced that economic theory that has never produced a positive real world result
because you are an uninformed hack is not my fault. Its already proven it works. We got out of the depression in the early 1920's using that policy in under two years.

is 100% based on no evidence what so ever besides Ron Paul told you that is what you're supposed to think.
I looked at the evidence and not because a mindless clown like you who pulls things out of his backburner said so.

And I'm the one with my head up my ass. lol
Agreed

I'm really not.
Then why not answer the points i made on my posts instead of ignoring them. You're so full of shit the whites of your eyes are brown.

You just won't believe anything unless Ron Paul tells you to believe it.
I believe his truths over your ignorance and backing of failed policies.


It was passed by congress under bush. Yes, Obama distributed some of the money, but that was his job. It was a law passed by congress and signed by president Bush. TARP wasn't a suggestion. Obama isn't the king. He can't just ignore the law because you didn't like it.
You still don't get it because you are dumb . Neither Bush nor Obama believe in the free market. It's all about playing king and picking winners and losers, because you are too foolish to see it is your fault. How is the economy doing? Recover like Obama said? Ignore that again please. How is unemployment? 8 percent like Obama said? Ignore that again please. I'd hate for you to show some backbone and address the issues.

It was, and he didn't enact TARP! That was Bush.
Like I said. You're dumb. You don't address the issues I make in my posts because you don't have a leg to stand on.
Since you cowardly left this out in your response I'll put it back in.

In President Obama's first State of the Union address, he tried to capture the public's anger toward Wall Street while defending his decision to bail it out. He argued that while his rescue of the banks wasn't popular, it was necessary.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/01/...ut-i-hated-it/


What is the next piece of bullshit coming out of your pie hole? Obama against bailing out foreign banks and businesses? Guess those trillions used to bail them out never happened either.
 

Parker

Well-Known Member
GM is now the number one automaker in the world, Paul would've let them fail. The stimulus saved or created 3 million jobs and the models show us that things would undoubtedly be worse if there was no stimulus.
Like the model that said unemployment would be at 8 percent and letting market corrections happen would be the wrong thing to do?
I'd like to see evidence from your statement how letting the losers fail would be worse. What actual proof do you have?

You are listening to the except same ones who were wrong about our economic collapse and were wrong about the recovery package getting us to 8 percent unemployment. Why listen to the ones who have been wrong often? A blind dog will find a bone theory?
 
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