Diablo OG In Dual Monster Plant System

lordjin said:

Hey, don't blame me. I always tell them what it really is. They make up the name and slap a label on it without my consent. They just think it's funny and don't care about accurate strain representation.

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I have been growing for 20 years and this isnt a new problem. They have overbread so many strains that they have to rename them becuase it just isnt what it once was. Not only that but you have guys out there trying to name strains as their own for some type of recognition as a cultivator. The previous poster keeps bringing up the med scene, but this has been going on long before the medical movement started. As long as its bomb, who the hell cares really? As long as they arent selling me a sativa and calling it indica.

my 2 cents

back then u couldnt choose over 100 different places to go ..
And pick from varieties of your choice......
Nor did u have many options....
You got what u got ..good or bad...
Now that we have progresed as a community of patients(med scene)...
We can buy weed as if we were buying thing from the drug store... full service....
Is this not better..... ????
Have it your way i like variety in my life.....
Home strains are common.. doesnt mean there fake...
Many collective have ther own home strains and other varieties that are more familiar ...
Nothing wrong with that..

Mrfootball420 said:

I have been growing for 20 years and this isnt a new problem. They have overbread so many strains that they have to rename them becuase it just isnt what it once was. Not only that but you have guys out there trying to name strains as their own for some type of recognition as a cultivator. The previous poster keeps bringing up the med scene, but this has been going on long before the medical movement started. As long as its bomb, who the hell cares really? As long as they arent selling me a sativa and calling it indica.

my 2 cents

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Good point Mr. F. As long is gets me high and tastes great, right?

Smoked some more of my fluff trimmings that now have been drying for over two weeks. Super high... What a mini-cure!

lordjin said:

You get it. Something not even worth mentioning to a hardcore hydro guy like you.

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A buddy of mine calls this "overclocking your plants". Light feedings coincide with a more nurturing environment. Your plants, however, are in overdrive. In DWC/Aero, a very good practice is find that fine line of toxicity, and cruise right under it. In soil, it's the opposite. I push my babies in hydro, for sure. They get slammed in to hyperspeed and hit with the maximum amount of food that the can handle. In soil, the plants work at their pace and tell me when and how much to feed.

A true testament to the effects of overclocking your plants are put in to effect in this thread. Congrats You methods may be of heretic nature, but you are definitely in a class above most.

dsmoke1 said:

Been there! I'll only run strains that vary by about a week in the same system for this reason. Honestly, you could created a "flush-bucket" to finish off the early one, and dial things down with the one that finishes longer. If not, I would shoot for aim 10 weeks on both. One will be a *tiny* past due, and the other a *tiny* early.

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They are in a scrog so moving one to a flush bucket would be hard to do.
I was thinking more along the lines of the 10 week mark myself.
And even if the one had to go a bit longer with no nutes that may be fine.
Correct me here.. If I am shooting for 10 wk flowering.
Should I start the around week 7-8 and lower the nutes over the last 2 week time?
Do I lower the PPM every couple days or what?
And then run straight water for the last 1-2 days?
To lower PPM I plan to just drain some water and add fresh. Obviously.. Lol
I know this is a simple process but I am just trying to make sure I understand it..

lordjin said:

Good point Mr. F. As long is gets me high and tastes great, right?

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Thats it bro, I only care about the quality. I could care less what you name it. Even today I dont tell people the strain because as I said before chances are somone renammed it already. I just tell my people I got some bomb, end of story!

Just look at all of the the stupid names like Obama kush and such. He has only been in office for about 2 years, Its just kush renammed.

dsmoke1 said:

Been there! I'll only run strains that vary by about a week in the same system for this reason. Honestly, you could created a "flush-bucket" to finish off the early one, and dial things down with the one that finishes longer. If not, I would shoot for aim 10 weeks on both. One will be a *tiny* past due, and the other a *tiny* early.

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Great advice.

BluBerry said:

They are in a scrog so moving one to a flush bucket would be hard to do.
I was thinking more along the lines of the 10 week mark myself.
And even if the one had to go a bit longer with no nutes that may be fine.
Correct me here.. If I am shooting for 10 wk flowering.
Should I start the around week 7-8 and lower the nutes over the last 2 week time?
Do I lower the PPM every couple days or what?
And then run straight water for the last 1-2 days?
To lower PPM I plan to just drain some water and add fresh. Obviously.. Lol
I know this is a simple process but I am just trying to make sure I understand it..

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Gotcha gotcha. Well, considering that one of your strains will have a bit more to go when you plan to harvest, I would aim for a longer and more gradual PPM lowering, about week eight. The trick here is going to be keeping your plants in a limbo until a week before harvest. I would suggest dropping your nutrient solution to half-strength at week 8, leaving it there until week 9. A fresh batch at half strength should do the trick from here on out as far as mixing nutes goes. From week nine, quickly bring them down to nothing over the course of a few days. Your last 4 to 5 days, you will be working a traditional flushing with straight water.

The logic behind this is simple: Initiate the "death" process with an abrupt draw-down of food, decreasing the rapid maturation process on your 8-9 weeker. This will also begin a slightly early maturation with your 10-12 weeker. From here, they are kept in limbo, producing nothing but calyxes and resin, in quick order while expecting death. Dial down a straight flush for the last few days to really finish off your early plant. Everything should be fairly even in regards to the ripeness and quality of both flowers.

You may also, at week 10, harvest the early plant while leaving the other to mature for another few days until you are satisfied. Only worth it if you have the time.

EDIT: And yes, drain a little bit of your solution, and replace with fresh water. Easy as pie

BluBerry said:

They are in a scrog so moving one to a flush bucket would be hard to do.
I was thinking more along the lines of the 10 week mark myself.
And even if the one had to go a bit longer with no nutes that may be fine.
Correct me here.. If I am shooting for 10 wk flowering.
Should I start the around week 7-8 and lower the nutes over the last 2 week time?
Do I lower the PPM every couple days or what?
And then run straight water for the last 1-2 days?
To lower PPM I plan to just drain some water and add fresh. Obviously.. Lol
I know this is a simple process but I am just trying to make sure I understand it..

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I just took the core concept of what dsmoke1 told me about and added my own details. You can do the same. The way you have it worked out in your question sounds fine. Right around week 8 start ratcheting down your ppm gradually each day (how much depends on the size of your current grow and rate of uptake). I've been removing roughly 100ppm a day (give or take). But I'm exploring new ground here myself...

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or you can follow the instructions he left to the letter. In fact, that's what I'm gonna do by giving them a few days of water flush. Ha ha.

Mrfootball420 said:

Thats it bro, I only care about the quality. I could care less what you name it. Even today I dont tell people the strain because as I said before chances are somone renammed it already. I just tell my people I got some bomb, end of story!

Just look at all of the the stupid names like Obama kush and such. He has only been in office for about 2 years, Its just kush renammed.

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Obama Kush is kinda funny. If you just say it's a bomb OG, you twist your jar open and that bomb OG smell hits you, I don't care if you call it "I'm a Pussy OG"... I'll take your word that it's legit. In fact there is a Pussy Kush now that I think about it. Lol.

dsmoke1 said:

A buddy of mine calls this "overclocking your plants". Light feedings coincide with a more nurturing environment. Your plants, however, are in overdrive. In DWC/Aero, a very good practice is find that fine line of toxicity, and cruise right under it. In soil, it's the opposite. I push my babies in hydro, for sure. They get slammed in to hyperspeed and hit with the maximum amount of food that the can handle. In soil, the plants work at their pace and tell me when and how much to feed.

A true testament to the effects of overclocking your plants are put in to effect in this thread. Congrats You methods may be of heretic nature, but you are definitely in a class above most.

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Of course an associate of yours would have a name for some nameless thing I've been doing. Right on. Now I'll start calling it 'over-clocking' too. Setting growing technique standards! Woo hoo! Look at us!

So I've searched high and low for a growing shot of a Diablo OG plant to compare mine with. Not much out there. This is the best I could find:
Theirs:

Mine:

I'm guessing the Diablo plant in the picture above wasn't grown utilizing 'overclocking' techniques. Ha! Sounds great already!

That pic looks very close but you have a much better calyx to leaf ratio.

Here is a write up on the Diablo from right here at RIU.

https://www.rollitup.org/smoke-reports/206971-diablo-og-kush.html

Mrfootball420 said:

That pic looks very close but you have a much better calayx to leaf ratio.

Here is a write up on the Diablo from right here at RIU.

https://www.rollitup.org/smoke-reports/206971-diablo-og-kush.html

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Wow, thanks what a great review.

But to this:

"Not to say the best, however it is surely something else..."

I would like to respond with, that person probably isn't talking about overclocked Diablo OG Kush. Ha! There's that word again! Like that, dsmoke1?

Hey dsmoke, I live in the Sacramento area as well. Could you recommend a dispensary that has healthy clones with good genetics? I plan on starting some clones in different guerilla locations. I would take clones from my plants, but I have a feeling I would screw something up due to my inexperience. Thanks! Or if you know of a noob-friendly cloning method, fire it at me!

lordjin said:

Like that, dsmoke1?

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Haha. You definitely have the right to throw that one around

Check your PMs in a second.

dsmoke1 said:

Heretic! Blasphemy! Jezebel! Harlot! DAMNATION!!!!

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Ha ha. You forgot whore.

323cheezy said:

great man ....sounds right....

I guess u could say its like a body builder or pro athlete... who has too eat many carbs and protiens , n what not to compensate for the excess energy being ingested....or energy being used....
Touche....
I guess just the way i was tought was that too many nutes wont always = more growth...
the leaves are vital for bud growth.... but like you said its minimal...

I think your setup and techinques are more advance than mine...
i keep it real simple....
I have to really on genetics to compete with ya...

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Think of it this way. What you do and what I do are the same thing in that we're both growing OG Kush, but that's where the similarities end. I wouldn't have any idea what to do with soil. To say one is more advanced than the other is a subject that continues to be debated. A pure organic soil grow in the hands of a master under bare hid bulb is some of the best mj in the world IMO.