Diablo OG In Dual Monster Plant System

BTW, Those pics I posted are Psilocybin Cyanescens. These, on a weight scale, are about two times more potent than Cubensis. Only a few types are considered to be superior in potency, but they are very rare, and grow in the PNW too The shitty thing is that they are a super bitch to cultivate, and a huge stickler for environmental conditions. On top of that, there is a deadly toxic lookalike that has claimed a few in the past. So unless you live in a really wet and damp area that won't freeze, you're out of luck. Good thing, they grow EVERYWHERE. Right out of mulched wood chips in landscaped areas. Parks, colleges, police stations... Yup. Takes a while to find them, but I got very good at it. Mind blowing potency. My lawd

dsmoke1 said:

BTW, Those pics I posted are Psilocybin Cyanescens. These, on a weight scale, are about two times more potent than Cubensis. Only a few types are considered to be superior in potency, but they are very rare, and grow in the PNW too The shitty thing is that they are a super bitch to cultivate, and a huge stickler for environmental conditions. On top of that, there is a deadly toxic lookalike that has claimed a few in the past. So unless you live in a really wet and damp area that won't freeze, you're out of luck. Good thing, they grow EVERYWHERE. Right out of mulched wood chips in landscaped areas. Parks, colleges, police stations... Yup. Takes a while to find them, but I got very good at it. Mind blowing potency. My lawd

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Well I don't know what type it was that I had that day, but if I could get a quarter cap and stem of that again somehow, I would plan a day at the beach and take it without hesitation.

lordjin said:

I've been going back and forth with someone else here on the topic of flushing. Based upon this discussion, thoughts of experts, and what I have seen in the past regarding prolonged, straight water flushes for a week or more, I have opted for a gradual daily PPM reduction (as I have been documenting) as a method of easing them into a final 24 hour pure water flush in the dark.

An astute poster brought this to my attention. And I gotta tell yah, it makes a lot more sense than the abrupt week-long water flushes I've been doing in the past. And now that I think about it, I do recall a reduction in odor intensity during the week of flushing with straight water in my previous grows. This time, with the plants drawing down gradually, the odor is intensifying and they're still growing until the very last moment before harvest.

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Once again preaching to the quire...lol
I go very light on the nutes , especially on ogs......
I dont starve my plants or take them threw a week long flush niether..
The only nutes my plant see are the one in the medium for the first 2 weeks....
I gradually go light the first weeks of flowering ... and go half strength during peek
growth budding weeks (weeks 3-6).....
By this time at week 7 im already down to quarter strength....
Not to mention i flush out my medium every other feeding.....
I would say i put maybe one or two flushes threw them at the very end ..usually 3 days in week nine....

I have read many articles on these issues...
Ive kinda developed my own style ....even now im still working to perfect the regiment .... just like u say i gradually tapper off on nutes....
Its a fine line to walk with feedings.....

Howevr... by looking at your diablo's ...i can see that u tend to up feed your girls....
Its obvious ... by week 4 i was already seeing allot of aging on you fan leaves and some of your bud leaves..... I know your familiar with nute burn right????
I never mind it ... as long as its very minor.....
This is something i watch very closely tho ...
And i can pretty much tell by the growth and health of the plants (leaf tips)..if there is a overnuting issue...

So i can tell u that just by looking at your grow .you may need atleast 4 daysof flush .....
Just my opoinoin.....

Maybe its just me ...but i go really light on nutes...
I dont go for muscle chicken .... steriod injected kfc shit...
I tend to keep it more organic.....
Ive been amazed how beauitful a plant will grow with minimal nute as appossed to stuffing that turkey ....
It all realy depends on if your goin for weight ....
And youl get weight ......for sure..
Thats usually what youll get at most low cap collectives nowadays....Muscle chiken...
Thats why sometimes are personal grows will come out better...
You known that homemade loving opposed to fast food meds....
I bringeth that organic stuff...lol
But in yield i will lose the battle .....
I could easily say that my plants mature faster and grow fast ... cause theyre life isnt prolonged.(by nutes)... and they really unlock theyre genetic potential naturally...

But hey your the low nute guy..... (my leaves have no burn)...

lordjin said:

That's cool. I find your OG rants entertaining. Yeah, I've unloaded small quantities of my micro-premium to a few shops...they look at it, smell it, and dream up a name on the spot. So far, I've been responsible for: "Whoa OG, Casper the Friendly Ghost OG, Scooby Doo OG... Lol!

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Once again not cool ..
When people do this ....it only adds confusion to the med scene..
This is not cool at all... especially if your dishing out cuts....
but seeing as you grew it out, had your very own unique regiments .. and conditons...
And there just flowers..... you can name it what u will... you created it ....kinda
Just try to be true to your patients so they know what theyre getting....
Even tho diablo would be easy for me to aquire.....
Its nice when you go to any general place and get what u ask for ...
In this case they wanted dank meds and got dankmeds ....so its a win win....

Dsmoke n gin...
Im really not here to say my genetics are superior to your genetics...
Nor did i ever mention that og is the best ever and will kill every other strain out there...
Im not here to say that the med scene is a hundred percent legit either....

What im trying to do however is share the knowledge that ive acqired through the years...
I am in no way new to this or a young kid.. ive been in the dope game for more than a decade ...
Before it was legal ...before people cared about names , are cared to take credit for there creations....
When people just wanted kush ..... (earthy taste , skunky smell)

This stuff is still rather new to me ... but for the last 3 years ive really been ingulfed in the medical scene...
Ive been on all sides of the fence.....
Ive been the skeptic , the non believer , party popper, who said oh its all bullshit......
And spewed out statements, from my ass, about genetics that i had really not even worked with...(like you)
I too shared your train of thought long ago....(and i debated with old timers all the tmie if the stuff out now is better than the stuff then..i dont want to go into that debate either)
And allot of shiestiness has transpired over the years...
Trying to market fake ogs to illegals abroad...via the internet....(since they wouldnt know ...since they had no access anyway and couldnt verify it)
Ive debated these topics for years....

So i went on and started growing these cuts, strains , to see how legit they were ...even if some shared similar characteristics...
And i saw for my self that the meds i bought from the clubs that were never easily acqired ....
Were on the market...And actually were real genetics .not made up shit.....
The problem being getting the real cuts...which isnt a problem , cause i work wih many growers and vendors who also are members of my dispenciary...

I know its hard to believe ... But im in the mecca of mj distribtuion...
so if your not in the la area(san fenando valley, hollywood , west la , eagle rock)... then u may not have as good acess to hot strains ...or legit cuts for that matter...
This may not apply to u....

We have made allot of progress here , and my beef with u being u making statement that i dont know whatim talking about ,
Or i am some kinda punk kid whos new to the game (im 30 yrsw old), and is geeked off an og plant.... Or statements like there just out there to rip me off ... and your concern for me...
This is not the case at all...

Things are really looking up ...things have changed over the years good genetics are past on, gifted, traded , old and new....
For a relativley low price(for free sometimes).... And there verified ..... im lucky to be appart of this club...
And to have met with the club owners.... and to share knowledge...
Ive gained allot of respect on the med front.... (I am refered to as king cheez... and annointed the louie ambassador)ll
And if i get good genetics ... i try to pass em on ....
I am always there for my fellow growers , patients when they need me..
My colllective has never let me down.... and for misinformation being spread by someone who hasnt even grown out chemdawg or og....
To know exactly the state of affairs in my opinoin sounds very pesimistic and condescending.....

Ive grown out chem dawg, and its nothing like a typical og... it more sativa(true hybrid) ..... and can have a smell of nasty gym sock or raw meat....
It does share a familiar pungent skunkiness, and upon inhale it has a bit of a fuel chemmines... but not as sour or as lemony....
The bud formation is tottally different...
Your cut looks damn neer spot on like mine did....

You could say swerve released these cuts to the community years back, on chemdogs permission to "share the genetics"...
And u can thank my collective po,,,, for being a catalyst.....they actualy acquired and spead it threw the community...with others....
See these genetics now can still be mostly tightly held in certain groups...but nowadays its so much easier to aquire...
Especially if your connected with major collective like me.....lol..... i get around....

Its just sad ... that people think this way.....
It erks me ... certain people are so negative and can t have fun with things....

These peole you tell them thing like "hey lets watch this movie"... and they say "that movie sucks"
Or "ohh thats realy fake".... Or "are minds are just controlled by the government"....

Im just happy to live with my imaginary strains ....and it fun too me..

So go on and keep stroking each other off on this thread ....lol..jk

But remember .... theres good people out there ...like me.....

So when we gonna hook up guys.....
Lunch??????

lordjin said:

Oh, you filthy creeper! How creepy! I feel so violated!

Be sure to take pix of your grow to show me. I love outdoor trees. Is it gonna be controlled or guerrilla warfare?

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It's a little bit of both, mostly controlled though. It's in my backyard in a kind of hidden spot behind an apple tree and some magnolias. It gets about 6 hours of direct sunlight a day, but gets indirect throughout the whole day. I'm thinking about letting them get a bit taller then top or LST or scrog or something. As you can probably tell, I'm not too set on anything yet, as I don't really know what will work. The sun is just coming over the trees to start giving them indirect lighting, I'll go take a picture of the two in my backyard (Red Dragon and Dolce Vita). Here's a pic that's a few weeks old that was taken right after transplant into their new homes, something to hold you over until I take a new one today. Bottom is Dolce Vita, top is Red Dragon.

323cheezy said:

Howevr... by looking at your diablo's ...i can see that u tend to up feed your girls....
Its obvious ... by week 4 i was already seeing allot of aging on you fan leaves and some of your bud leaves..... I know your familiar with nute burn right????
I never mind it ... as long as its very minor.....
This is something i watch very closely tho ...
And i can pretty much tell by the growth and health of the plants (leaf tips)..if there is a overnuting issue...

So i can tell u that just by looking at your grow .you may need atleast 4 daysof flush .....
Just my opoinoin.....

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I'm pretty certain that those signs of "overfeeding" are from heat stress due to height limitations in the cab. Jin has been on top of it. Also, flushing in soil and flushing in hydro are two completely different, and I mean *completely* different. Flushing for "4" days in soil is the same thing he's doing now, he's just walking the PPM. In fact, his light nutrient solution is probably less harsh than soil after getting drenched in nutrients for three months. Running R/O for a week in hydro is like taking your plant out of soil in the last week of flower and putting it in to some sterile rockwool so that it cannot get *any* food from the rootzone. In soil, they feed to the VERY end, even if you're using water at 0 ppm.

Great info though. The feeding habits of a plant change GREATLY when going from soil to DWC/Aero. If Jin were in soil, we wouldn't be having this conversation

i had that in back of my mind..the whole time....
your logic is right ...its easier to flush out in hydro.....
I realize in soil nutes can build and thats exactly why i have to take precaustions.....

I remember when soil was refered to as organic and hydro was more of a un natural method....
Now just common sence would tell me there are advantages to hydro....
And its just as good if not better than soil or coco...

I heard some growers say that soil is tastier....
But i would attribute that to a growers bias...or opinoin ...
Depending on what they use......

As time goes on i find growing being more hard work,time, and common sence more than anything.....

Much respect dsmoke....

Edit ..look at the tip of the leaves..that is minor nute burn.. and some lght n heat burn.....day 30

mine at day 25....
no burn at alll with a phone cam pic.....(louie)

Okay, now for the pics I just took outside. I think the plants have been in the ground for a good 2-3 weeks now. First pic is of both of the plants in the same positions as the previous pic. Second pic is a side profile of the Red Dragon, while the third is a side profile of the Dolce Vita. I know these pics aren't the best quality, but is it possible to tell sex yet? That's my main worry with these plants, as a few of the seeds I started aren't feminized. Thanks for the input!

323cheezy said:

So i went on and started growing these cuts, strains , to see how legit they were ...even if some shared similar characteristics...
And i saw for my self that the meds i bought from the clubs that were never easily acqired ....

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Bro, I've totally been there. I know what you mean too. Some of the dankest nugs I've smoked were from club cuts. The real genetics are out there, it just takes a keen sense and a sharp tongue. Like you said, finding genetics in the MMJ scene is not hard for you. It is not for me either. If you check my grows, you'll see that I'm moving new (and sometimes rare) cuts around every week or so. This is because I'm not an idiot. Lordjin has some strong strong babies, from a club- Not an idiot. You as well, because you aren't an idiot. We've taken measures to ensure that our sources are legit. Unfortunately, in Cali, this is not always the case.

I know its hard to believe ... But im in the mecca of mj distribtuion...
so if your not in the la area(san fenando valley, hollywood , west la , eagle rock)... then u may not have as good acess to hot strains ...or legit cuts for that matter...
This may not apply to u....

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Bro, I live in Sacramento. Shit is going DOWN here. Montel Williams just opened a club down the street. My roommate, who has been involved with MMJ for a few years, just recently moved up from Riverside and has nothing but great things to say about Norcal bud via Socal bud. Not going to start an argument on this once, because nobody will win, but I will defend my "access" to "hot strains" - I was more worried about you in LA buddy By all means, scroll through the 200+ dispensaries in the greater Sac area: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=Dispensary&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1366&bih=667&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl - Obviously 230 something clubs is nowhere NEAR the amount that LA has, but I have my fair choice of out of this world cannabis. Like I said before, I've been around brodie. Started in the Oregon Medical Marijuana scene nearly a decade ago, did my deeds in Europe for three years, came back and moved to Seattle where I was once again involved with Medical Marijuana. I'm here now, in California, and I am happy to tell you that the medicine here is as good as it is anywhere. What I might not be so happy to talk about, is the preconception that if you don't live in LA that you *truly* don't know what good weed is. Have you heard of Eugene, Oregon? Vancouver Island, BC? Yeah dude. Yeah. Good weed exists outside of LA. Actually, *better* weed exists outside of LA. Shame on me for saying so, but I'm not lying.

We have made allot of progress here , and my beef with u being u making statement that i dont know whatim talking about ,
Or i am some kinda punk kid whos new to the game (im 30 yrsw old), and is geeked off an og plant.... Or statements like there just out there to rip me off ... and your concern for me...
This is not the case at all...

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Once again, my bad. You fit the mold, so I assumed, and that was wrong. The only people around here that "only smoke OG Kush bruh" are young twenty-somethings in a Monster-Energy-Drink fitted cap. Had you said to me "OG Kush is good, but there is a wide world of varietals, and under the right grower, any strain has the chance to outshine others", I would have been forced to agree. I hate to come off like I'm talking down to someone as me, and was not trying to do so. I kind of felt like you were assuming I was some scrub from Alabama with no knowledge of what a dank nugget is. I smoked a half pound in Amsterdam within my first 5 visits. I know what good weed is, and I know what bad weed is. If I were to visit your dispensaries, I would be seeing nothing new. Trust me.

Things are really looking up ...things have changed over the years good genetics are past on, gifted, traded , old and new....
For a relativley low price(for free sometimes).... And there verified ..... im lucky to be appart of this club...
And to have met with the club owners.... and to share knowledge...
Ive gained allot of respect on the med front.... (I am refered to as king cheez... and annointed the louie ambassador)ll
And if i get good genetics ... i try to pass em on ....
I am always there for my fellow growers , patients when they need me..
My colllective has never let me down.... and for misinformation being spread by someone who hasnt even grown out chemdawg or og....
To know exactly the state of affairs in my opinoin sounds very pesimistic and condescending.....

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No, you're good I hear you there man. I'm in a bit of the same position. And I said *I've* never personally grown Chemdog or OG. I'd hate to get in to a battle of plant-worth here, but I don't need to have personally grown either strain to know about it. I've ran ECSD, Snowdawg, and sat side-by-side for a OGiesel run. This doesn't mean anything. I've never grown Dr. Grinspoon but I can tell you anything you need to know about that strain up to the secrets that Barney himself hides.

Ive grown out chem dawg, and its nothing like a typical og... it more sativa(true hybrid) ..... and can have a smell of nasty gym sock or raw meat....
It does share a familiar pungent skunkiness, and upon inhale it has a bit of a fuel chemmines... but not as sour or as lemony....
The bud formation is tottally different...
Your cut looks damn neer spot on like mine did....

You could say swerve released these cuts to the community years back, on chemdogs permission to "share the genetics"...
And u can thank my collective po,,,, for being a catalyst.....they actualy acquired and spead it threw the community...with others....
See these genetics now can still be mostly tightly held in certain groups...but nowadays its so much easier to aquire...
Especially if your connected with major collective like me.....lol..... i get around....

Its just sad ... that people think this way.....
It erks me ... certain people are so negative and can t have fun with things....

These peole you tell them thing like "hey lets watch this movie"... and they say "that movie sucks"
Or "ohh thats realy fake".... Or "are minds are just controlled by the government"....

Im just happy to live with my imaginary strains ....and it fun too me..

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Bro, how many times do I have to say this: You're good! I checked out your cut source, and they are legit. LA has 1000+ clubs though. Are you seriously telling me that just because you've taken the time to select a verified source, that no one else is getting scammed? I'm glad for you, and your strains are *very* real and *very* legit. Once again, not attacking you. I'm simply commenting on the idiotic level of saturation in the MMJ market, which with anything, leads to corruption. It irks me that you think I am negative about anything and cannot have fun. I have a house, a degree, a job, a woman, a dog, and friends that love me Life is good. I have fun every day, with a multitude of things. In fact, I consider myself about as easy-going as they come. But does that mean I'm blind to the bullshit going on around me? Naw man. I'm nice, not dumb. We could go really deep in to the psych drawer here, but you know what I mean.

So go on and keep stroking each other off on this thread ....lol..jk

But remember .... theres good people out there ...like me.....

So when we gonna hook up guys.....
Lunch??????

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Next time your in NorCal, let me know

323cheezy said:

i had that in back of my mind..the whole time....
your logic is right ...its easier to flush out in hydro.....
I realize in soil nutes can build and thats exactly why i have to take precaustions.....

I remember when soil was refered to as organic and hydro was more of a un natural method....
Now just common sence would tell me there are advantages to hydro....
And its just as good if not better than soil or coco...

I heard some growers say that soil is tastier....
But i would attribute that to a growers bias...or opinoin ...
Depending on what they use......

As time goes on i find growing being more hard work,time, and common sence more than anything.....

Much respect dsmoke....

Edit ..look at the tip of the leaves..that is minor nute burn.. and some lght n heat burn.....day 30

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Yeah, he was pushing them. I see nutrient burn as well, but nothing I would ever worry about.

And the whole Soil vs. Hydro thing is actually a great debate. I for one, can tell what I'm smoking off the bat. Hydro usually has more pronounced odors that come through as hazey in taste, and soil is a bit sweeter, which comes through as earthy. I, for one, prefer to smoke soil-grown when done right. Have you looked into Sub's Super Soil? Some of *the* dankest nugs I've ever laid eyes on were grown in a Super-Soil hybrid, top fed with nothing but water for it's entire life. Mmmmmmmm.

dsmoke1 said:

Bro, I've totally been there. I know what you mean too. Some of the dankest nugs I've smoked were from club cuts. The real genetics are out there, it just takes a keen sense and a sharp tongue. Like you said, finding genetics in the MMJ scene is not hard for you. It is not for me either. If you check my grows, you'll see that I'm moving new (and sometimes rare) cuts around every week or so. This is because I'm not an idiot. Lordjin has some strong strong babies, from a club- Not an idiot. You as well, because you aren't an idiot. We've taken measures to ensure that our sources are legit. Unfortunately, in Cali, this is not always the case.

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Ive grown out many cuts including sc.....the rare cut u speak of...

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Bro, I live in Sacramento. Shit is going DOWN here. Montel Williams just opened a club down the street. My roommate, who has been involved with MMJ for a few years, just recently moved up from Riverside and has nothing but great things to say about Norcal bud via Socal bud. Not going to start an argument on this once, because nobody will win, but I will defend my "access" to "hot strains" - I was more worried about you in LA buddy By all means, scroll through the 200+ dispensaries in the greater Sac area: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=Dispensary&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1366&bih=667&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl - Obviously 230 something clubs is nowhere NEAR the amount that LA has, but I have my fair choice of out of this world cannabis. Like I said before, I've been around brodie. Started in the Oregon Medical Marijuana scene nearly a decade ago, did my deeds in Europe for three years, came back and moved to Seattle where I was once again involved with Medical Marijuana. I'm here now, in California, and I am happy to tell you that the medicine here is as good as it is anywhere. What I might not be so happy to talk about, is the preconception that if you don't live in LA that you *truly* don't know what good weed is. Have you heard of Eugene, Oregon? Vancouver Island, BC? Yeah dude. Yeah. Good weed exists outside of LA. Actually, *better* weed exists outside of LA. Shame on me for saying so, but I'm not lying.

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Montel williams means nothing to me..
Hes a talk show host ...its called marketing..
My collective doesnt assoiate with celebs....lol

Lol..Im not origionally from cali either..i moved here..
I wont get personal but your under the assumption ive never traveled......
Ive been to A'dam.. and i know people from there...

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Once again, my bad. You fit the mold, so I assumed, and that was wrong. The only people around here that "only smoke OG Kush bruh" are young twenty-somethings in a Monster-Energy-Drink fitted cap. Had you said to me "OG Kush is good, but there is a wide world of varietals, and under the right grower, any strain has the chance to outshine others", I would have been forced to agree. I hate to come off like I'm talking down to someone as me, and was not trying to do so. I kind of felt like you were assuming I was some scrub from Alabama with no knowledge of what a dank nugget is. I smoked a half pound in Amsterdam within my first 5 visits. I know what good weed is, and I know what bad weed is. If I were to visit your dispensaries, I would be seeing nothing new. Trust me.

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You really think my clubs are average....but u have never been there... so u have no say ....about my meds.....

dsmoke1 said:

No, you're good I hear you there man. I'm in a bit of the same position. And I said *I've* never personally grown Chemdog or OG. I'd hate to get in to a battle of plant-worth here, but I don't need to have personally grown either strain to know about it. I've ran ECSD, Snowdawg, and sat side-by-side for a OGiesel run. This doesn't mean anything. I've never grown Dr. Grinspoon but I can tell you anything you need to know about that strain up to the secrets that Barney himself hides.



Bro, how many times do I have to say this: You're good! I checked out your cut source, and they are legit. LA has 1000+ clubs though. Are you seriously telling me that just because you've taken the time to select a verified source, that no one else is getting scammed? I'm glad for you, and your strains are *very* real and *very* legit. Once again, not attacking you. I'm simply commenting on the idiotic level of saturation in the MMJ market, which with anything, leads to corruption. It irks me that you think I am negative about anything and cannot have fun. I have a house, a degree, a job, a woman, a dog, and friends that love me Life is good. I have fun every day, with a multitude of things. In fact, I consider myself about as easy-going as they come. But does that mean I'm blind to the bullshit going on around me? Naw man. I'm nice, not dumb. We could go really deep in to the psych drawer here, but you know what I mean.




Next time your in NorCal, let me know

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For sure.....
But i have grown so many cuts, bagseeds , or bred out seeds from breeders... and i have a say in this.....

I have limitations to what i grow...
And i post pics of my personal grow....
Most of this home grown you would never see at the shop in most cases....
But i do vendo too three well known establishments....
Like i said i have limitations on how much i grow....
But i can tell u i have people growing out cuts i have acqired......
And i basically have to supervise grows.....
And acts as a leadman ...to other growers...
In most cases its my grow , my cuts , my people , my supervision,,,, and my invested money and time....
We have houses built for these things ....but i would never post pics ..
Cause im not here to brag...
I can meet any collectives needs in the area 5x flat ....
And people will request our stuff....
I have been enlightened by many growers levels ahead of me...
But at this point its really about genetics... and yield.....
This is my way of life ...
I have a gf and a small place ...
No fancy car ....i stay lo key.....everything legal..
I work hard for alll i have ...
And the meds are good and at a desent price....
Ive ben part of the workforce and have been laid of twice ....
So u could say this is just a hobby for me to pay the bills...
I am in no way getting rich....

Edit....
Everything i said was a lie....lol

323cheezy said:

Once again not cool ..
When people do this ....it only adds confusion to the med scene..
This is not cool at all... especially if your dishing out cuts....
but seeing as you grew it out, had your very own unique regiments .. and conditons...
And there just flowers..... you can name it what u will... you created it ....kinda
Just try to be true to your patients so they know what theyre getting....
Even tho diablo would be easy for me to aquire.....
Its nice when you go to any general place and get what u ask for ...
In this case they wanted dank meds and got dankmeds ....so its a win win....

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Hey, don't blame me. I always tell them what it really is. They make up the name and slap a label on it without my consent. They just think it's funny and don't care about accurate strain representation.

323cheezy said:

For sure.....
But i have grown so many cuts, bagseeds , or bred seed... and i have a say in this.....

I have limitations to what i grow...
And i post pics of my personal grow....
Most of this home grown you would never see at the shop in most cases....
But i do vendo too three well known establishments....
Like i said i have limitations on how much i grow....
But i can tell u i have people growing out cuts i have acqired......
And i basically have to supervise grows.....
And acts as a leadman ...to other growers...
In most cases its my grow , my cuts , my people , my supervision,,,, and my invested money and time....
We have houses built for these things ....but i would never post pics ..
Cause im not here to brag...
I can meet any collectives needs in the area 5x flat ....
And people will request our stuff....
I have been enlightened by many growers levels ahead of me...
But at this point its really about genetics... and yield.....
This is my way of life ...
I have a gf and a small place ...
No fancy car ....i stay lo key.....everything legal..
I work hard for alll i have ...
And the meds are good and at a desent price....
Ive ben part of the workforce and have been laid of twice ....
So u could say this is just a hobby for me to pay the bills...
I am in no way getting rich....

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Everything i said was a lie....lol

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Haha, we're in the same boat man. Vending is something that can be dangerous when openly discussed, which is why we'll keep that off of here

My Grow Journals here are strictly for me an my private head-stash.

As far as getting rich? Nah. We have enough money to pay the bills, and maybe buy a couple Christmas presents. But we're not on welfare, and we don't steal.

BTW:

I would like to try some of those exotic OG crosses you're running. They look really, really good

323cheezy said:

Once again preaching to the quire...lol
I go very light on the nutes , especially on ogs......
I dont starve my plants or take them threw a week long flush niether..
The only nutes my plant see are the one in the medium for the first 2 weeks....
I gradually go light the first weeks of flowering ... and go half strength during peek
growth budding weeks (weeks 3-6).....
By this time at week 7 im already down to quarter strength....
Not to mention i flush out my medium every other feeding.....
I would say i put maybe one or two flushes threw them at the very end ..usually 3 days in week nine....

I have read many articles on these issues...
Ive kinda developed my own style ....even now im still working to perfect the regiment .... just like u say i gradually tapper off on nutes....
Its a fine line to walk with feedings.....

Howevr... by looking at your diablo's ...i can see that u tend to up feed your girls....
Its obvious ... by week 4 i was already seeing allot of aging on you fan leaves and some of your bud leaves..... I know your familiar with nute burn right????
I never mind it ... as long as its very minor.....
This is something i watch very closely tho ...
And i can pretty much tell by the growth and health of the plants (leaf tips)..if there is a overnuting issue...

So i can tell u that just by looking at your grow .you may need atleast 4 daysof flush .....
Just my opoinoin.....

Maybe its just me ...but i go really light on nutes...
I dont go for muscle chicken .... steriod injected kfc shit...
I tend to keep it more organic.....
Ive been amazed how beauitful a plant will grow with minimal nute as appossed to stuffing that turkey ....
It all realy depends on if your goin for weight ....
And youl get weight ......for sure..
Thats usually what youll get at most low cap collectives nowadays....Muscle chiken...
Thats why sometimes are personal grows will come out better...
You known that homemade loving opposed to fast food meds....
I bringeth that organic stuff...lol
But in yield i will lose the battle .....
I could easily say that my plants mature faster and grow fast ... cause theyre life isnt prolonged.(by nutes)... and they really unlock theyre genetic potential naturally...

But hey your the low nute guy..... (my leaves have no burn)...

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Whoa, whoa, whoa... just wait a hot second. You wanna know something about my nute burn? I'll tell you something about my nute burn.
Something may look awry to the conventional mentality, but I assure you there is a practiced method to my madness. I'm an extreme power junkie, unusual even in the hydro world. While I fully appreciate and respect soil growing as an art form unto itself, most if not all of its concepts do not apply in quite the same way to hydro... And some of the principles that apply in more conventional hydro don't apply to me.

I ride my plants hard on the nutes, always have. But I can only work with such high ppms because of the other factors involved... The lights, the air movement, the massive flow of oxygen, all these factors are ramped up to the extreme in my system. If I didn't give it an equally intense nutrient regimen to match up to the power of the lights and air and oxy in the water, there would be an imbalance. So you see, over the years, observing the power of the system, I've found that I actually HAVE TO bomb with high levels of nutrient because of the rate of absorption caused by the other intense factors the plants are getting. The way the plants grow in 4x2 with 1000 watts and 45 liters per minute of oxygen in the water, the tri-meter will tell you all need to know in such a grow space. The plants (through their behavior and through the tri-meter) tell me to bomb them with high ppms because it's the amount of food they need to keep up in such an environment. A bit of light burn shows itself later on the leaves, that just comes with the territory in such a power-concentrated grow space. **For example, if you tried feeding your plants 1450ppm without all these other extremely powerful life-supporting factors in place, your plants would burn to a brown crisp... With all the power factors in place, instead of burning to a crisp, they grow like King King with just a few brown spots.**

I use light nute burn as a gauge to know that they're running at max without getting critical. This, contrary to lengthening the plant's life cycle, has proven to accelerate it... shortening the overall grow time. I don't fret about little things anymore, like small nute burn spots. I realize that it's just a part of my technique... Again, I have traded perfect looking leaves for greater and faster yield long ago.

I appreciate your concern, but I've gotten this 'controlled nute burn' well in hand, and it is part of my grow technique. I'm a pot-growing heretic, but even the traditionalists love smoking my stuff..

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And yes, your leaves may not have burn, but when you're finished smoking your harvest, I still have several ounces curing in their jars.

Heretic! Blasphemy! Jezebel! Harlot! DAMNATION!!!!

great man ....sounds right....

I guess u could say its like a body builder or pro athlete... who has too eat many carbs and protiens , n what not to compensate for the excess energy being ingested....or energy being used....
Touche....
I guess just the way i was tought was that too many nutes wont always = more growth...
the leaves are vital for bud growth.... but like you said its minimal...

I think your setup and techinques are more advance than mine...
i keep it real simple....
I have to really on genetics to compete with ya...

BluBerry said:

I like the thought and sound of the whole walk-down flush idea, so to speak.
I will be facing an issue and want to get it figured out before I get there.
I have 2 different strains in one 100 L cooler. One is a 8-9 wk and the other is 10-12 wk flower.
What would be the best way to flush them without affecting the other one much?
Around what week should I start this process on?
Besides running 2 small cooler with one strain in each.
I flushed my first grow a little too soon and don't want to do it again.

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Been there! I'll only run strains that vary by about a week in the same system for this reason. Honestly, you could created a "flush-bucket" to finish off the early one, and dial things down with the one that finishes longer. If not, I would shoot for aim 10 weeks on both. One will be a *tiny* past due, and the other a *tiny* early.

dsmoke1 said:

Yeah, he was pushing them. I see nutrient burn as well, but nothing I would ever worry about.

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You get it. Something not even worth mentioning to a hardcore hydro guy like you.