Diablo OG In Dual Monster Plant System
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lordjin
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Hey, dsmoke1. Guess what? Your suggestion of drawing them down gradually on ppm is having this unexpected effect of a last major push of bulking. See how they keep getting bigger to the very end? It's all because of you, buddy.
These next two are shots of the little sister, plant 2. My look who's all growed up.
These next two are shots of the little sister, plant 2. My look who's all growed up.
lordjin
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Now, now... you cut that out. I'll be quite pleased with my modest 16oz mark.
But thank you ever so much for your praise and optimism!
lordjin
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How y'all are? Doin' mah best, ah garontee...
Sorry, that's the best fake Cajun I could come up with.
brandon727272
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I've been creeping on this thread for over a week, and those beautiful pics are finally driving me to post! Great job jin! You have me drooling in my seat, missing/remembering the last OG I had. This year I'm attempting my first grow outdoors with quite a few different pick n mix strains from attitude. If they turn out half as good as yours I'll be extremely pleased!
Mrfootball420
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Well they say the camera adds 10lbs so maybe im a little heavy 
... but seriously thats looks like at least 2lbs from where im sitting.
... but seriously thats looks like at least 2lbs from where im sitting.
lordjin
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Oh, you filthy creeper! How creepy! I feel so violated!
Be sure to take pix of your grow to show me. I love outdoor trees. Is it gonna be controlled or guerrilla warfare?
dsmoke1
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In the right hands, this can turn a great harvest into an astronomical one. When I saw how hard you were cruising somewhere through week six, I knew that you were on a wrecking path you do not want to get off of. Like I said before, there are a lot of growing techniques which go unquestioned. Flushing is one of them, and let's face it, most people's plants need a good flush at the end of a two month beat-down with chemical fertilizers. You, on the other had, have just been let in on a nifty little trick that seasoned growers can play with when they get everything else figured out. It's cool because you're already there
I don't think I could have slept at night knowing I helped aid in the ruining of a great grow, and if I didn't feel you were as competent as they come, I would have never suggested it. Although no one can be sure, I'd be willing to bet you easily added 5% to your terminal yield while forcing the plant to focus on nothing but calyx and resin production. Feels good, don't it? Anyways, I bet you are teeming with joy. Who isn't when it's this close? Can't wait. Wish I could help with the trimwork
lordjin
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You're the man, baby. You're the man.
lordjin
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That's exactly right. Instead of the sudden shock of drain and replace with plain RO, the gradual decrease is giving the plant time to respond to the signal. Plants don't operate on an instantaneous level, they're on a slower roll, so slowly decreasing is sending a message that is throwing them in a panic, causing unreal last minute bulking. Massive, bro. Massive.In the right hands, this can turn a great harvest into an astronomical one. When I saw how hard you were cruising somewhere through week six, I knew that you were on a wrecking path you do not want to get off of. Like I said before, there are a lot of growing techniques which go unquestioned. Flushing is one of them, and let's face it, most people's plants need a good flush at the end of a two month beat-down with chemical fertilizers. You, on the other had, have just been let in on a nifty little trick that seasoned growers can play with when they get everything else figured out. It's cool because you're already there
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Regarding the trimming ahead, I actually don't feel to badly about this one. This plant has been a genetic dream in every way. She shed her own fan leaves, requiring minimal pruning from my lazy ass...AND her bud to leaf ratio is one of the best I have ever seen. I estimate trimming will take one quarter of the time it usually takes me... okay, okay half the time it usually takes me.
dirk d
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interesting i never questioned the final week flush. but i have noticed that when i dont flush in the end the buds still gro and when i flush they really dont. im going to try the gradual flush. thnx guys. seems to make sense though now that i think about it. instead of shock the plant goes into overdrive final survival mode.
lordjin
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Ding, ding, ding... winnah, winnah, chicken dinnah.
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And not cutting out the nute entirely is having the effect of increasing odor... so no chance of losing potency with that washing machine style of flush.
lordjin
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I don't know about two pounds, but it sure smells like heavy love.Well they say the camera adds 10lbs so maybe im a little heavy
dsmoke1
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There's the key. You have much more control when you can handle things at the same speed of the plant. When you're in control, magic happens
I hear you on the trim work too. Looks like 90% nugget to me. Easy trimmer regardless by the looks of it.
And definitely expect that plant to continue it's rapid ripening of terpenes, even through drying. From my basic knowledge of the delicious hydrocarbons and organic compounds we refer to as "smell", Myrcene and Geraniol in cannabis has been known to sedate those in the presence of it's perfume. Without. Even. Smoking. Police officers frequently report getting high from handling ripe marijuana during grow busts. The action of tearing down a grow room in full bud releases hundreds of thousands of volatile terpenes when resin glands are ruptured. Have fun trimming! Haha
A few good reads here on understanding cannabis and it's luring (or sometimes not very) aroma: http://www.internationalhempassociation.org/jiha/jiha4208.html - http://greenhouseseeds.nl/shop/terpens-in-resin.html - http://www.treatingyourself.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=28860&highlight=mango -
lordjin
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There are lots of growers out there, but few hardcore grow nerds. Congrats you're a rare breed. I think you're more of a cannabis geek than even me... in fact I'm sure of it. Lol.There's the key. You have much more control when you can handle things at the same speed of the plant. When you're in control, magic happens
I hear you on the trim work too. Looks like 90% nugget to me. Easy trimmer regardless by the looks of it.
And definitely expect that plant to continue it's rapid ripening of terpenes, even through drying. From my basic knowledge of the delicious hydrocarbons and organic compounds we refer to as "smell", Myrcene and Geraniol in cannabis has been known to sedate those in the presence of it's perfume. Without. Even. Smoking. Police officers frequently report getting high from handling ripe marijuana during grow busts. The action of tearing down a grow room in full bud releases hundreds of thousands of volatile terpenes when resin glands are ruptured. Have fun trimming! Haha
A few good reads here on understanding cannabis and it's luring (or sometimes not very) aroma: http://www.internationalhempassociation.org/jiha/jiha4208.html - http://greenhouseseeds.nl/shop/terpens-in-resin.html - http://www.treatingyourself.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=28860&highlight=mango -
Remind me to use the words Myrcene and Geraniol and volatile terpenes in conversation at my next cocktail party.
I kept saying in earlier updates that I was gonna harvest tomorrow, but with this continued growth and amber trichs just starting to show... I'm gonna prolong this draw down thing and let them drink down this 400ppm in the next few days to be finished by a quick 24 hour water rinse in the dark. The trichs just keep oozing... it's not time to stop yet.
dsmoke1
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Haha! Weed nerd! Man, that's a good one. What can I say, it's been an easy love affair this far. Believe it or not, as a young teenager growing up in the Pacific Northwest, I fell in love with Mycology. I remember becoming so immersed into the world of fungi, that I began rapid-loading levels of scientific information well beyond what I should have been dealing with. I was the go to guy for fungus for a very long time. Identification, cultivation, edibility, etc etc. Every fall, from about October to early December, the world was mine. I've since then graduated to cannabis, as it has always been my true medication. Psilocybin mushrooms were much more of a religious experience for me, if you could even call it that. We used to ingest frequently, though that quickly dwindled. It's been a few years since I've stormed the gates, but the lessons they've taught me are still in effect to this day. I recognize this, and have moved on. I'll attach a few pictures of some of my patches from back in the day- Enjoy!
And as far as the harvest goes: A keen eye knows best. An old saying goes- "When in doubt, grow it out". If some flowers mature quicker than others, you can do a bit of double budding. This simply means that you harvest the flowers that are done, and leave the rest (with a healthy amount of foliage) to continue ripening throughout the next few days. Some call this "Secondary Budding". There is a ton of info on it, and if you have the time/energy/room it can be well worth it. Keep at it!
Pics I promised
lordjin
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I mentioned it earlier, but this is my official announcement (gosh I feel almost like Miley Cyrus on Twitter or something)... I am quitting show business... AND I'm not harvesting tomorrow. They will stay at 400ppm for the next few days until all the hairs are dry and the trichs get a bit more amber. Peace! And stay tuned for more! It's not over till the fat lady falls through the stage floor!
dsmoke1
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You are in store for a real treat. Watch.
I mentioned it earlier, but this is my official announcement (gosh I feel almost like Miley Cyrus on Twitter or something)... I am quitting show business... AND I'm not harvesting tomorrow. They will stay at 400ppm for the next few days until all the hairs are dry and the trichs get a bit more amber. Peace! And stay tuned for more! It's not over till the fat lady falls through the stage floor!
lordjin
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Oh, duder, that is so awesome. I'm a stoner through and through, but I have to say hands down if asked what my most incredible drug experience has been, it's easily this one batch of shrooms I did back in the wilder college dorm days. This stuff was a straight 8 hour ride through the gates of heaven with the most beautiful come down I have ever felt in my life. I ate one medium sized cap and a stem and 45 minutes later I was literally crying tears of utter joy. It was amazing. I was all alone in my room, went outside and started bawling with tears of joy out on the lawn, so had to run quickly back into our house and back into my room to cry it out (while strangely laughing at the same time). I took a drive off campus to the outskirts of town when I started coming down. I drove up to the hills, took a stroll through a mountain path and smoked a bowl on a rock to watch the sunset. Best fucking trip I've ever had... All by myself too.Haha! Weed nerd! Man, that's a good one. What can I say, it's been an easy love affair this far. Believe it or not, as a young teenager growing up in the Pacific Northwest, I fell in love with Mycology. I remember becoming so immersed into the world of fungi, that I began rapid-loading levels of scientific information well beyond what I should have been dealing with. I was the go to guy for fungus for a very long time. Identification, cultivation, edibility, etc etc. Every fall, from about October to early December, the world was mine. I've since then graduated to cannabis, as it has always been my true medication. Psilocybin mushrooms were much more of a religious experience for me, if you could even call it that. We used to ingest frequently, though that quickly dwindled. It's been a few years since I've stormed the gates, but the lessons they've taught me are still in effect to this day. I recognize this, and have moved on. I'll attach a few pictures of some of my patches from back in the day- Enjoy!
And as far as the harvest goes: A keen eye knows best. An old saying goes- "When in doubt, grow it out". If some flowers mature quicker than others, you can do a bit of double budding. This simply means that you harvest the flowers that are done, and leave the rest (with a healthy amount of foliage) to continue ripening throughout the next few days. Some call this "Secondary Budding". There is a ton of info on it, and if you have the time/energy/room it can be well worth it. Keep at it!
Pics I promised
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I forget what external stimulus it was that caused this incredibly euphoric emotional outburst... I think it was the sheer color of the grass and trees and the beauty of the clouds in the sky that looked so inspirational that I was moved to tears. Not just watery eyes sniffles... Gushing with tears at the beauty of nature... I literally had to run and hide so no one would see me like this. I was laughing and crying my eyes out at the same time... if anyone saw me... you get the picture.
Anyway so when I got back in my room, I chilled, listened to music really loud (which was fucking incredible), smoked weed, chilled some more, came down, and that's when I took a drive to finish off the come down with another bowl in the mountains. Incredible. A day I will never forget.
dsmoke1
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Good effing times.