curing = bs imo

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Kgp has a point..if u not starting with good genetics n having a good grow a month cure is pointless...when I stared ogs I hardly ever MONITOR the MOISTURE content which is wat I think u guys r arguing about. Its so potent once it dry can b rolled in a doobie n knock your ass to sleep...if you r 1000000000% organic you can bypass that month curing imo n jus hang dry..mines dries n 2-4 days..but I do slow the dry down with paper bags n add 1-2 extra days..I noticed genetics plays the most factor...curing is good when u r EXPERIENCED but like he said when you r a newb jus focus on a healthy grow n hang dry that shit n jar it..once u get your killer genetics n dial your room n then focus on a MOISTURE content level...its toooooooo overwhelming for a nweb to go fom monitoring ph to monitoring moisture...now if your experienced u can focus on other things to improve it such as moisture content..just from my experience. N calm down with the bashing yall need to roll up n pass that shit n jus relax n b easy we r apart of an ELITE group of croppers n need harmony not arguing n name calling...I believe both methods will produce killer meds..but gotta start with killer genetics :-)
 

Malevolence

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When something is burned it gets reduced.. eventually your left with black carbon...this is different than an oxide forming.. when a UV/light absorbing compound oxidizes or degrades (different but basically same effect) it darkens. Its purpose is to absorb light and protect the plant. So it goes dark eventually black unlike tcs wonderful examples ...when I said oxidation I meant both. Good wax will lighten in color if nucleated properly . Thca has a half life of 13 days(under these conditions), how long it takes you to get it to wax and the amount of heat used will drastically effect your product......but vac honestly all the pics you've put up are pretty dark compared to others, I think its your specific process.....I'm sure y'all are tired of me saying this but lower your heat some...but not remove, you do need to keep it right above its melting point, as lighter terps evap the melting point raises and I slowly in very small increments raise the temp to compensate..but I always have wax within a day or 2 so I think your sucking on it too long at too high of a temp....but that's just me.(and Im no wax pro)

When wood is heated anaerobically, it turns black as the water is driven off, leaving charcoal, or carbon, behind. When charcoal burns in air, the carbon combines with oxygen, producing carbon dioxide. But if youve used a charcoal grill,you may have noticed that charcoal turns white as it burns. This white ash is what remains of the non-flammable minerals which were present in the wood to begin with. You don't really notice them until the carbon has burned away. These ashes have a composition which varies according to the kind of wood and the soil in which it grew, and it is this variable composition which marks ash as a mixture rather than a pure substance. Hope that helps with the color of ash confusion

Also you can now laugh in peoples face when they say their ash didn't burn white cause it wasn't flushed properly lol....that white is either potash or sodium carbonate..white stuff is the nutes, flushing didnt do anything.........simply still has moisture in it...comes from a poor cure

Man sometimes I surprise even myself..I should write a book for stoners, I'm slangin gold over here folks

Since I'm bored and on the subject, that anaerobic burning is what causes butane lighters to produce soot or that black stuff if you put the flame under something, propane burns wonderfully clean but as you add carbon it needs more oxygen, as you go up it won't burn properly unless you add an oxidizer.. this is also why BIC lighters are only about 500 degrees instead of 3500 or whatever butane likes to burn at..
(bics design limits oxygen,if you have a torch for dabbing with an adjuster you know what I'm talking about)"

Night and day difference in curing ..
Reduction in Chlorophyll content, doesn't taste like smoking veggies
Reduction in plant starch content,and sugars, creating a smooth smoke that will just expand nicely in your lungs, won't even feel it go down
Reduction in nitrate levels,less carcinogenic, always good right
polycyclic aromatization of terpenoids altering the flavor profile more robust, less perfumey even soapy and stronger
Reduction of and consistent moisture content, even slow burn and no smoldering or black ash unwilling to burn

3weeks or so gives bud good enough to smoke or even sell...I wouldn't go longer than 4 months...once its done its done..it won't alter indefinitely..just like decarbing..

But fresh dryed herb should still be good



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Bam
there are maybe 4 or 5 people around here that post fuckin gold and I pay attention to and learn shit from them. you should write a book on the chemistry of cultivating our favorite herb for stonerz; I would def buy it. and by that I mean I would def pirate the .pdf
 

Malevolence

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to me curing makes a huge difference... it's like the difference between caffeine free diet pepsi in a 2 liter vs coke classic in a glass bottle. some people can't tell the difference or would call the difference 'minor' I'd say the difference is pretty fuckin significant. I had no idea so many people just smoke and sell their shit green off the plant.
 

bud nugbong

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yea I think it makes a VERY NOTICABLE difference. taste and smell are a definite. how it burns and how long the buzz last are also affected in my opinion. My buddy wonders why my shit "taste bomb guy" (we grow from the same shit) and he still refuses to take the time to do any curing at all. Like malovence said here. some people its worth it more. my buddy is just one of those just get high type of guys. I compare it to tasting fine wines. you gotta enjoy the aroma and taste on the pallet and all that BS. And I hate smoking uncured buds for the 5-10 min buzz that quickly fades away. Its definatly worth the few min a day. and you can check for mold too.
 

ASMALLVOICE

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I would be willing to bet you would have a difficult time getting uncured bud in a dispensary anywhere in the country.

no cure = no taste
know cure = know taste

I for one prefer the latter. I know what bud taste like from about 7 weeks of flower through the cure process and it is a no brainer for sure. All gets you high, just remember, its not the destination, but the journey.

Peace and Great Grows

Asmallvoice
 

bird mcbride

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I still say it all starts at the chop. The real stinky BC bud is usually sold locally. The not so stinky bud is the same weed but deliberately cured that way to reduce the smell, for legal reasons.
 

kgp

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I would be willing to bet you would have a difficult time getting uncured bud in a dispensary anywhere in the country.

no cure = no taste
know cure = know taste

I for one prefer the latter. I know what bud taste like from about 7 weeks of flower through the cure process and it is a no brainer for sure. All gets you high, just remember, its not the destination, but the journey.

Peace and Great Grows

Asmallvoice
im not talking shit but what kind of buds do you grow that has no taste without a cure? I have never heard of such a thing.

After I trim (dry trim), my fingers will stink for 20 hours or so afterwards, even after using alcohol, dish soap and that resonator shit. I have the complete opposite in opinion where my buds smell the strongest after drying.

My wife will refuse to go out in public with me after a trim session.
 

kgp

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yea I think it makes a VERY NOTICABLE difference. taste and smell are a definite. how it burns and how long the buzz last are also affected in my opinion. My buddy wonders why my shit "taste bomb guy" (we grow from the same shit) and he still refuses to take the time to do any curing at all. Like malovence said here. some people its worth it more. my buddy is just one of those just get high type of guys. I compare it to tasting fine wines. you gotta enjoy the aroma and taste on the pallet and all that BS. And I hate smoking uncured buds for the 5-10 min buzz that quickly fades away. Its definatly worth the few min a day. and you can check for mold too.
See buzz has nothing to do with it... Do you cure your wax, shatter, hash? My Yeti will wreck your day. Well atleast half your day until you can wake up and function. Far from 5-10 minutes of buzz. So potent, I dont like smoking it all that much.

I grow the same starins as some friends, and mine always taste better. I grow with organic amendments, which in my opinion bring out much more smell and taste than a cure.

I agree with the pallet and fine wine things, but like my opinions holds, the right cut will get the tatse and smell. You can grow a seed from attitude blue dream for example, and cure it to specs, but will never come close to a real cut of sfv just after harvest. Not even close. IMO
 

joe macclennan

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im not talking shit but what kind of buds do you grow that has no taste without a cure? I have never heard of such a thing.

After I trim (dry trim), my fingers will stink for 20 hours or so afterwards, even after using alcohol, dish soap and that resonator shit. I have the complete opposite in opinion where my buds smell the strongest after drying.

My wife will refuse to go out in public with me after a trim session.
why not wear gloves?
me, me, me. mine this. mine that. my stuff. mine. me. I

Your so great. we're so envious.
my gawd :roll::roll:another riu newb acting an ass :wall::wall:
 

Grojak

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I got through a couple pages and it just made my head hurt... everyone cures... I know an old timer that prefers to hang his plants for 12-14 days and smokes em right off the stem after that (fucker has killer smoke) I prefer hanging til they seem just a bit dry than let them sweat and dehydrate via burping jars, the taste, smoke and smell all improve over a 14-21 day cure no arguments needed!!
 

Grojak

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why not wear gloves?
Seriously!! If you're only growing so you can smoke it you still owe it to yourself to wear gloves, if you have any inclination to donate it to a patient or coop you BETTER be wearing gloves. If you're just a scum bag street dealer whats on your hands is probably cleaner than the buds you grow!!
 

kgp

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Seriously!! If you're only growing so you can smoke it you still owe it to yourself to wear gloves, if you have any inclination to donate it to a patient or coop you BETTER be wearing gloves. If you're just a scum bag street dealer whats on your hands is probably cleaner than the buds you grow!!
Thanks for your opinions and stereotypical insults.
 

kgp

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Lets stay on topic folks. The topic at hand,(incase everyone forgot) Is that my opinion is genetics and a dialed in grow is much more important than perfect cure.

And to all the newbs, should focus on getting good genetics and dialing in their grow and those two things are much more important than making sure your buds are exactly 62%rh.
 

joe macclennan

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ok, I would agree that good genetics and a well run grow are more important than the cure. I think this is an obvious assertion.

To say that curing doesn't help flavor, smoothness and sometimes smell....Goes against everything I have witnessed.

So I have to disagree.

How much does it improve the product is a better question. Sometimes a lot sometimes not so much.

and I actually prefer mine @ around 58-60%. I believe rh around here just burns better.

and seriously....what is so hard about dropping some caliber III's in your jars?



not like they are uber expensive or require that much extra labor to use.

to me they are more an insurance policy. Using one in each jar ensures it's not too wet and prevents any errant spores from growing.

and also maximizes weight ensuring it's not too dry.


my 2 cents.
 

dubcoastOGs

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my opinion is genetics and a dialed in grow is much more important than perfect cure.
Well no shit dude. No one is arguing that with you. Nor did any newb ask for your help. regardless...

It's about a complete package. And curing happens to complete the package. Why spend all that time finding good genetics, searching through phenos, clones, whatever. mixing good dirt, buying good nutes, preparing proper water, blah blah blah, if your just gonna cut that shit down, dry it in a paper bag on top of whatever household appliance you choose, and smoke it basically 'off the plant'.

that's garbage.
 

joe macclennan

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It's about a complete package. And curing happens to complete the package. Why spend all that time finding good genetics, searching through phenos, clones, whatever. mixing good dirt, buying good nutes, preparing proper water, blah blah blah, if your just gonna cut that shit down, dry it in a paper bag on top of whatever household appliance you choose, and smoke it basically 'off the plant'.
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he makes a good point here kgp.

That's like being in first place and blowing a tire in turn four.
 

kgp

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he makes a good point here kgp.

That's like being in first place and blowing a tire in turn four.
First, I dont read a thing that troll says.

Second, it seems people cant read, or dont want too. Please re-read my original post. Page 1, I made this because I seen frustration and very confused individuals worried about getting there buds cured so they dont turn out like shit. There tons of pages on this very topic in this section.

I said, chop your plants, hang them untill they are dry, put them in a jar. If they are too wet, let them dry more. The only time I "burp" the jar is to pull a bud out to smoke. Thats it!! I know this works because I have doen it many times.

Some how, after getting attacked because of my posts this disccussion got changed into multiple different topics and some people are so upset they resort to childish behavior. This is when I laugh and enjoy reading this out of pure entertainment.

I personally like the taste of my buds fresh. If you don't, thats cool. Do you. I never told anyone they have to do as I say, or they have to believe what I type.

Here are some plants I cut down last night. I, and I repeat, I will be enjoying them in about 10-20 days or so. You guys will not. Smoke your weed, cure it how you want to, as long as you want to. If you want to make a post about your spectacular cure methods, do so. I will not argue, disagree, or troll your tread.
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i am very particular about drying my ladies
I compress it all into a disc and cover it with wet paper towels and leave it under my bed for 3 days
then i take it out from under and put the disc in toaster for a few minutes
then i take it out and smoke some of that kushhhhh
 

joe macclennan

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I said, chop your plants, hang them untill they are dry, put them in a jar. If they are too wet, let them dry more. The only time I "burp" the jar is to pull a bud out to smoke. Thats it!! I know this works because I have doen it many times.



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mine won't fit in one jar. Therefore if I waited to pull one out to smoke I could wait a very long time. Too long for me to be comfortable not knowing approximately how high the rh is in there.

seriously not trying to be a dick here but those nugs are small bro. Smaller buds have less likelihood of molding do to less mass, and they will also dry/cure a lot faster. If you get colas as big as a pop bottle Knowing where your rh is becomes much more critical.


but...whatever makes you happy bro :peace:
 
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